Airplane noise concerns overblown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is that possible?! I mean good for you, I guess. But, aren’t you worried about the inevitable pollution? It’s not a matter of if it affects you but when

By this reasoning, half of Bethesda has a reason to be worried. I am pretty sure that at the height the planes are flying there are little to no issues. Living close to 495 is a totally different ballgame, though.

And you’d be completely wrong. There’s enough science quoted on this thread alone. You are much worse off under your highway in the sky than living next to 495. In fact there’s a study that says you’d probably be better off standing in the middle of the highway.

[Anonymous]

I live in the Palisades and I get annoyed by the airplane noise sometimes, other times I don’t pay attention to it. Part of the reason why the noise situation deteriorated in the neighborhood is because not many people care or complain about it. At times a handful will exchange annoyed emails on the Listserve but the vaste majority doesn’t even engage in the conversation. I wish people would be more combative.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know how many planes depart DCA daily?

Also, in the past 20 days planes have only departed ONE day the south(Alexandria)-so no break for almost 2 weeks on the DC side…

I really am trying to get to the point where it’s just background noise for me, but I’m not even close yet…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is that possible?! I mean good for you, I guess. But, aren’t you worried about the inevitable pollution? It’s not a matter of if it affects you but when

By this reasoning, half of Bethesda has a reason to be worried. I am pretty sure that at the height the planes are flying there are little to no issues. Living close to 495 is a totally different ballgame, though.

And you’d be completely wrong. There’s enough science quoted on this thread alone. You are much worse off under your highway in the sky than living next to 495. In fact there’s a study that says you’d probably be better off standing in the middle of the highway.

Really? What studies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is that possible?! I mean good for you, I guess. But, aren’t you worried about the inevitable pollution? It’s not a matter of if it affects you but when

By this reasoning, half of Bethesda has a reason to be worried. I am pretty sure that at the height the planes are flying there are little to no issues. Living close to 495 is a totally different ballgame, though.

And you’d be completely wrong. There’s enough science quoted on this thread alone. You are much worse off under your highway in the sky than living next to 495. In fact there’s a study that says you’d probably be better off standing in the middle of the highway.

Really? What studies?

Just to follow-up, some quick googling about ultra fines shows this study:
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/epdf/10.1021/acs.est.0c05933

It suggests some of the conclusions you make, but they say that it is for future research to figure out how much worse it is, and that this research is not yet done. There is also a lot more nuance than the statements you made to be found in this paper. Perhaps you should read it.

[Anonymous]

I’ve read it and not to out myself but have a lot of experience in medicine and would never ever knowingly put myself or my family in that situation ever again. And I’ve been tempted.

There’s no rational way to justify it. If UFPs aren’t convincing for you, plain old particulate pollution, noise and stress (whether you think you are used to it or not) have serious adverse effects, from heart attacks, strokes, hearing loss, dementia, anxiety etc etc etc

PP is right. If people stopped pretending this was ok, we’d stand a chance of changing it. LA people managed to shut down an airport. That would mean that you’d have to stop pretending these houses are a good buy and admit they are blighted

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve read it and not to out myself but have a lot of experience in medicine and would never ever knowingly put myself or my family in that situation ever again. And I’ve been tempted.

There’s no rational way to justify it. If UFPs aren’t convincing for you, plain old particulate pollution, noise and stress (whether you think you are used to it or not) have serious adverse effects, from heart attacks, strokes, hearing loss, dementia, anxiety etc etc etc

PP is right. If people stopped pretending this was ok, we’d stand a chance of changing it. LA people managed to shut down an airport. That would mean that you’d have to stop pretending these houses are a good buy and admit they are blighted

You can't avoid airplane traffic in majority of DC metro. Unless you live right near the Observatory you will be having planes fly low enough and near enough to hear them. They even fly over National Mall, even though it's a no-fly zone. And if you buy in an area that today may not appear to have much traffic, this may change any time as they change flight paths. There is enough flights doing in and out of DCA daily to create constant blanket of low flying airplanes over most of DC metro.

[Anonymous]

Omg just get an air purifier and be thankful you don’t like in Delhi

[Anonymous]

Live*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve read it and not to out myself but have a lot of experience in medicine and would never ever knowingly put myself or my family in that situation ever again. And I’ve been tempted.

There’s no rational way to justify it. If UFPs aren’t convincing for you, plain old particulate pollution, noise and stress (whether you think you are used to it or not) have serious adverse effects, from heart attacks, strokes, hearing loss, dementia, anxiety etc etc etc

PP is right. If people stopped pretending this was ok, we’d stand a chance of changing it. LA people managed to shut down an airport. That would mean that you’d have to stop pretending these houses are a good buy and admit they are blighted

You can't avoid airplane traffic in majority of DC metro. Unless you live right near the Observatory you will be having planes fly low enough and near enough to hear them. They even fly over National Mall, even though it's a no-fly zone. And if you buy in an area that today may not appear to have much traffic, this may change any time as they change flight paths. There is enough flights doing in and out of DCA daily to create constant blanket of low flying airplanes over most of DC metro.

This again. It’s simply NOT TRUE. The majority of DC doesn’t see a plane over their house for days if ever. Time for the real estate prices to catch up to that reality is coming.

[Anonymous]

What is true is that the Observatory Circle and Woodley Park prices will shoot up even more accordingly. If you can buy there buy anything you can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is that possible?! I mean good for you, I guess. But, aren’t you worried about the inevitable pollution? It’s not a matter of if it affects you but when

By this reasoning, half of Bethesda has a reason to be worried. I am pretty sure that at the height the planes are flying there are little to no issues. Living close to 495 is a totally different ballgame, though.

And you’d be completely wrong. There’s enough science quoted on this thread alone. You are much worse off under your highway in the sky than living next to 495. In fact there’s a study that says you’d probably be better off standing in the middle of the highway.

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve read it and not to out myself but have a lot of experience in medicine and would never ever knowingly put myself or my family in that situation ever again. And I’ve been tempted.

There’s no rational way to justify it. If UFPs aren’t convincing for you, plain old particulate pollution, noise and stress (whether you think you are used to it or not) have serious adverse effects, from heart attacks, strokes, hearing loss, dementia, anxiety etc etc etc

PP is right. If people stopped pretending this was ok, we’d stand a chance of changing it. LA people managed to shut down an airport. That would mean that you’d have to stop pretending these houses are a good buy and admit they are blighted

You can't avoid airplane traffic in majority of DC metro. Unless you live right near the Observatory you will be having planes fly low enough and near enough to hear them. They even fly over National Mall, even though it's a no-fly zone. And if you buy in an area that today may not appear to have much traffic, this may change any time as they change flight paths. There is enough flights doing in and out of DCA daily to create constant blanket of low flying airplanes over most of DC metro.

This again. It’s simply NOT TRUE. The majority of DC doesn’t see a plane over their house for days if ever. Time for the real estate prices to catch up to that reality is coming.

You are so clearly someone with an axe to grind. Does your hated ex-husband live in the Palisades and you're holding a grudge? Does your frenemy live there and you're hoping her house value declines? Or do you just resent people who are well off in general? Look inward and let us know.

[Anonymous]

I live on a busy Ave with loudass cars with souped up engines and motorcycles, trucks and metrobus. So fn loud. lived here for 29 years. It’s gotten worse even though they narrowed the street with bike paths and a median.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve read it and not to out myself but have a lot of experience in medicine and would never ever knowingly put myself or my family in that situation ever again. And I’ve been tempted.

There’s no rational way to justify it. If UFPs aren’t convincing for you, plain old particulate pollution, noise and stress (whether you think you are used to it or not) have serious adverse effects, from heart attacks, strokes, hearing loss, dementia, anxiety etc etc etc

PP is right. If people stopped pretending this was ok, we’d stand a chance of changing it. LA people managed to shut down an airport. That would mean that you’d have to stop pretending these houses are a good buy and admit they are blighted

You can't avoid airplane traffic in majority of DC metro. Unless you live right near the Observatory you will be having planes fly low enough and near enough to hear them. They even fly over National Mall, even though it's a no-fly zone. And if you buy in an area that today may not appear to have much traffic, this may change any time as they change flight paths. There is enough flights doing in and out of DCA daily to create constant blanket of low flying airplanes over most of DC metro.

This again. It’s simply NOT TRUE. The majority of DC doesn’t see a plane over their house for days if ever. Time for the real estate prices to catch up to that reality is coming.

You are so clearly someone with an axe to grind. Does your hated ex-husband live in the Palisades and you're holding a grudge? Does your frenemy live there and you're hoping her house value declines? Or do you just resent people who are well off in general? Look inward and let us know.

🙄 just look up