Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

Goulet has also been gulling the gullible with the idea that the GDS site could be a K-8. Which shows a profound misunderstanding of what DCPS needs. It adds middle school seats, but not in-boundary for Deal, which needs them, but for Hardy, which doesn't. In doing so it increases the number of students with the right to attend Jackson-Reed but does nothing to increase the capacity of JR, even though that's what's desperately needed.

When was the last time they did a robust DC residency audit of Wilson? My nephew goes there and says a lot of the kids live in Maryland. Ferret them out and while they won’t solve the capacity issue, they will make a dent in it.

This is bonkers. Where in Maryland would they live such that they would go through all the trouble of going to Wilson over their local HS? Wilson is like an average MCPS HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

And when is construction supposed to occur? They are going to open a school without a cafeteria? You think they can build out a cafeteria in 8 months? Honestly bizarre posts and completely untethered.

Someone is temporally challenged. The school will open in the fall of 2023, so they have about 15 months to get this done. But the new Ward 3 councilmember will be seated in January 2023, 8 months before the school would open. Assuming that construction proceeds as planned, it’s highly highly unlikely that whoever is elected Councilmember for Ward 3 is going to convince whoever they need to convince to walk away the plans to open the HS and go back to the drawing board. If you can imagine that scenario, you must be on some very interesting drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

And when is construction supposed to occur? They are going to open a school without a cafeteria? You think they can build out a cafeteria in 8 months? Honestly bizarre posts and completely untethered.

Someone is temporally challenged. The school will open in the fall of 2023, so they have about 15 months to get this done. But the new Ward 3 councilmember will be seated in January 2023, 8 months before the school would open. Assuming that construction proceeds as planned, it’s highly highly unlikely that whoever is elected Councilmember for Ward 3 is going to convince whoever they need to convince to walk away the plans to open the HS and go back to the drawing board. If you can imagine that scenario, you must be on some very interesting drugs.

You are making affirmative statements about timelines and outcome that are not yet confirmed.

DCPS planning has already determined that it will be a HS. However, the date for opening is all prospective. DCPS proposes a Fall 2023 “Anticipated Opening” without doing any construction or modernization. All of the construction is proposed for “Phase II”, after opening, which does not seem like a reasonable plan and actually deserves more public scrutiny. Opening a new school without adequate facilities in place is inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

And when is construction supposed to occur? They are going to open a school without a cafeteria? You think they can build out a cafeteria in 8 months? Honestly bizarre posts and completely untethered.

Someone is temporally challenged. The school will open in the fall of 2023, so they have about 15 months to get this done. But the new Ward 3 councilmember will be seated in January 2023, 8 months before the school would open. Assuming that construction proceeds as planned, it’s highly highly unlikely that whoever is elected Councilmember for Ward 3 is going to convince whoever they need to convince to walk away the plans to open the HS and go back to the drawing board. If you can imagine that scenario, you must be on some very interesting drugs.

You are making affirmative statements about timelines and outcome that are not yet confirmed.

DCPS planning has already determined that it will be a HS. However, the date for opening is all prospective. DCPS proposes a Fall 2023 “Anticipated Opening” without doing any construction or modernization. All of the construction is proposed for “Phase II”, after opening, which does not seem like a reasonable plan and actually deserves more public scrutiny. Opening a new school without adequate facilities in place is inappropriate.

Sorry, I've sat through the meetings, August 2023 is a firm date. The school will open with approximately 200 9th graders. The reason there is a Phase II is that there is a Phase I, which is doing what is necessary to open with 200 9th graders.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

Which is why DCPS is planning to spend tens of millions of dollars to renovate and expand the building.

I don't get the "land is constrained" bit. It has an enormous parking lot, most of the site is parking. As a public school it won't need nearly as much.

And how do the teachers and support staff get to work?

Why would you think a public school needs less parking that a private school with the same staffing?

DCPS has said in the public meetings that the school has "too much parking." Their words, not mine. They've also said they're looking at a combination of building up and building out.

Private schools operating in residential neighborhoods are highly constrained by zoning. Public schools are a matter-of-right use and have no such constraints.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

And when is construction supposed to occur? They are going to open a school without a cafeteria? You think they can build out a cafeteria in 8 months? Honestly bizarre posts and completely untethered.

Someone is temporally challenged. The school will open in the fall of 2023, so they have about 15 months to get this done. But the new Ward 3 councilmember will be seated in January 2023, 8 months before the school would open. Assuming that construction proceeds as planned, it’s highly highly unlikely that whoever is elected Councilmember for Ward 3 is going to convince whoever they need to convince to walk away the plans to open the HS and go back to the drawing board. If you can imagine that scenario, you must be on some very interesting drugs.

You are making affirmative statements about timelines and outcome that are not yet confirmed.

DCPS planning has already determined that it will be a HS. However, the date for opening is all prospective. DCPS proposes a Fall 2023 “Anticipated Opening” without doing any construction or modernization. All of the construction is proposed for “Phase II”, after opening, which does not seem like a reasonable plan and actually deserves more public scrutiny. Opening a new school without adequate facilities in place is inappropriate.

Sorry, I've sat through the meetings, August 2023 is a firm date. The school will open with approximately 200 9th graders. The reason there is a Phase II is that there is a Phase I, which is doing what is necessary to open with 200 9th graders.

Yep, they’re committed to opening in August 2023. It will be a soft opening, but it would be hard at this point for DCPS to walk that back. Particularly when there is an empty building there waiting for them. The building will not be in an ideal state, but they have more than enough time to get it good enough. Those who think that the likes of Goulet could magically stop this - even if he wanted to, which is doubtful - are very easily misled.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

Which is why DCPS is planning to spend tens of millions of dollars to renovate and expand the building.

I don't get the "land is constrained" bit. It has an enormous parking lot, most of the site is parking. As a public school it won't need nearly as much.

And how do the teachers and support staff get to work?

Why would you think a public school needs less parking that a private school with the same staffing?

DCPS has said in the public meetings that the school has "too much parking." Their words, not mine. They've also said they're looking at a combination of building up and building out.

Private schools operating in residential neighborhoods are highly constrained by zoning. Public schools are a matter-of-right use and have no such constraints.

Aha. You’re a “zoning” person. Good to know. Carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

And when is construction supposed to occur? They are going to open a school without a cafeteria? You think they can build out a cafeteria in 8 months? Honestly bizarre posts and completely untethered.

Someone is temporally challenged. The school will open in the fall of 2023, so they have about 15 months to get this done. But the new Ward 3 councilmember will be seated in January 2023, 8 months before the school would open. Assuming that construction proceeds as planned, it’s highly highly unlikely that whoever is elected Councilmember for Ward 3 is going to convince whoever they need to convince to walk away the plans to open the HS and go back to the drawing board. If you can imagine that scenario, you must be on some very interesting drugs.

You are making affirmative statements about timelines and outcome that are not yet confirmed.

DCPS planning has already determined that it will be a HS. However, the date for opening is all prospective. DCPS proposes a Fall 2023 “Anticipated Opening” without doing any construction or modernization. All of the construction is proposed for “Phase II”, after opening, which does not seem like a reasonable plan and actually deserves more public scrutiny. Opening a new school without adequate facilities in place is inappropriate.

Sorry, I've sat through the meetings, August 2023 is a firm date. The school will open with approximately 200 9th graders. The reason there is a Phase II is that there is a Phase I, which is doing what is necessary to open with 200 9th graders.

Yep, they’re committed to opening in August 2023. It will be a soft opening, but it would be hard at this point for DCPS to walk that back. Particularly when there is an empty building there waiting for them. The building will not be in an ideal state, but they have more than enough time to get it good enough. Those who think that the likes of Goulet could magically stop this - even if he wanted to, which is doubtful - are very easily misled.

Regardless what Goulet has committed to and what is feasible, the plan is half baked and DCPS deserves significantly more over sight and scrutiny.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

Goulet has also been gulling the gullible with the idea that the GDS site could be a K-8. Which shows a profound misunderstanding of what DCPS needs. It adds middle school seats, but not in-boundary for Deal, which needs them, but for Hardy, which doesn't. In doing so it increases the number of students with the right to attend Jackson-Reed but does nothing to increase the capacity of JR, even though that's what's desperately needed.

When was the last time they did a robust DC residency audit of Wilson? My nephew goes there and says a lot of the kids live in Maryland. Ferret them out and while they won’t solve the capacity issue, they will make a dent in it.

This is bonkers. Where in Maryland would they live such that they would go through all the trouble of going to Wilson over their local HS? Wilson is like an average MCPS HS.

More likely PG than Moco. A number are kids of DC government workers or good athletes from outside DC who are sub rosa allowed by coaches to play.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

Which is why DCPS is planning to spend tens of millions of dollars to renovate and expand the building.

I don't get the "land is constrained" bit. It has an enormous parking lot, most of the site is parking. As a public school it won't need nearly as much.

And how do the teachers and support staff get to work?

Why would you think a public school needs less parking that a private school with the same staffing?

DCPS has said in the public meetings that the school has "too much parking." Their words, not mine. They've also said they're looking at a combination of building up and building out.

Private schools operating in residential neighborhoods are highly constrained by zoning. Public schools are a matter-of-right use and have no such constraints.

Aha. You’re a “zoning” person. Good to know. Carry on.

I prefer to think of myself as a "reality" person. Carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

I guess we’ll find out when it opens 15 months from now. That Goulet is telling people - in writing - he will be able to stop it if he takes office in January should tell you all you need to know about him.

Yep, by January it will be eight months away from opening, the money to open it will be in the current-year budget, not much a council member can do to stop it. But Goulet is good at telling people what they want to hear; as Homer Simpson said to Marge, "It takes two to lie. One to do the lying, and one to be lied to."

And when is construction supposed to occur? They are going to open a school without a cafeteria? You think they can build out a cafeteria in 8 months? Honestly bizarre posts and completely untethered.

Someone is temporally challenged. The school will open in the fall of 2023, so they have about 15 months to get this done. But the new Ward 3 councilmember will be seated in January 2023, 8 months before the school would open. Assuming that construction proceeds as planned, it’s highly highly unlikely that whoever is elected Councilmember for Ward 3 is going to convince whoever they need to convince to walk away the plans to open the HS and go back to the drawing board. If you can imagine that scenario, you must be on some very interesting drugs.

You are making affirmative statements about timelines and outcome that are not yet confirmed.

DCPS planning has already determined that it will be a HS. However, the date for opening is all prospective. DCPS proposes a Fall 2023 “Anticipated Opening” without doing any construction or modernization. All of the construction is proposed for “Phase II”, after opening, which does not seem like a reasonable plan and actually deserves more public scrutiny. Opening a new school without adequate facilities in place is inappropriate.

Sorry, I've sat through the meetings, August 2023 is a firm date. The school will open with approximately 200 9th graders. The reason there is a Phase II is that there is a Phase I, which is doing what is necessary to open with 200 9th graders.

Yep, they’re committed to opening in August 2023. It will be a soft opening, but it would be hard at this point for DCPS to walk that back. Particularly when there is an empty building there waiting for them. The building will not be in an ideal state, but they have more than enough time to get it good enough. Those who think that the likes of Goulet could magically stop this - even if he wanted to, which is doubtful - are very easily misled.

Regardless what Goulet has committed to and what is feasible, the plan is half baked and DCPS deserves significantly more over sight and scrutiny.

What Goulet has committed to? Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

Which is why DCPS is planning to spend tens of millions of dollars to renovate and expand the building.

I don't get the "land is constrained" bit. It has an enormous parking lot, most of the site is parking. As a public school it won't need nearly as much.

And how do the teachers and support staff get to work?

Why would you think a public school needs less parking that a private school with the same staffing?

DCPS has said in the public meetings that the school has "too much parking." Their words, not mine. They've also said they're looking at a combination of building up and building out.

Private schools operating in residential neighborhoods are highly constrained by zoning. Public schools are a matter-of-right use and have no such constraints.

Aha. You’re a “zoning” person. Good to know. Carry on.

DCPS said the same thing about another Ward 3 school which was recently renovated without parking (despite DC having built parking at Murch, Ellington, Janey). So the school has had to beg and borrow temporary street parking passes for staff, which doesn’t work very well. High schools are more vehicle intensive than elementary schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

Which is why DCPS is planning to spend tens of millions of dollars to renovate and expand the building.

I don't get the "land is constrained" bit. It has an enormous parking lot, most of the site is parking. As a public school it won't need nearly as much.

And how do the teachers and support staff get to work?

Why would you think a public school needs less parking that a private school with the same staffing?

DCPS has said in the public meetings that the school has "too much parking." Their words, not mine. They've also said they're looking at a combination of building up and building out.

Private schools operating in residential neighborhoods are highly constrained by zoning. Public schools are a matter-of-right use and have no such constraints.

Aha. You’re a “zoning” person. Good to know. Carry on.

I prefer to think of myself as a "reality" person. Carry on.

“Zoning people” are typically the opposite of that and your posts are consistent because you are just willfully ignoring obvious “realities” with the plan. But sure. Let’s catch up in Fall 2023 when an incomplete HS lacking key facilities is definitely going to open, just as DCPS says and DCPS has always been on top of all facility matters. Yeah, “reality”.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheh has been a lame duck since February, when she announced her withdrawal from the race.

Do you think any of the Ward 3 candidates other than Goulet is more liberal than Cheh? Because they aren't. And Goulet is pretty close. He simply favors more money for Charters and a football stadium.

Honestly it looks down to Frumin (AU park support), Duncan (Palisades), and Goulet (Outside W3 Dark Money). Nobody else has more than 150 local W3 donors. Frumin is a bit more NIMBY than Duncan, but pretty similar overall. Goulet is all over the place, one day he says he is for reducing costs, then he come out in favor of spending money on a stadium for out-of-towners. But he is pro-charter school - which in W3 isn't even an issue (lowest charter use in the city, with no charters in boundary).

As for the makeup council post election?

Hard to say. I think Mendo will win, as will Naidu. W5 will stay progressive with either Faith/Parker. Does Bonds keep her seat? Not clear, she doesn't even really have any name recognition. Honestly, any pronouncements seem too early, unless you have seen polling results that the rest of us haven't.

I don't know where you get this. Frumin got the Lisner project through. He got the lights in at Chevy Chase playground, he got the AU Law school and AU dorms through. Where has he been an obstruction to new development?

He's repeatedly told the NIMBYs in Foxhall and Palisades that he is against building the new elementary school at Hardy Park, and that the new high school at the old GDS campus needs more "community engagement" before we proceed with the mayor's plan. He also didn't lift a finger when residents in his ANC (3C) fought off the development at Super Fresh for years.

The old GDS lower school would be inappropriate for a high school. It doesn’t have a cafeteria. Doesn’t have an auditorium. Only has a small gym and small turf field so no sports. The land is constrained and on the side of a hill so you cannot add anything. It also only has capacity for 500 students.

Aren't they spending 10s of millions to remedy those issues. Still a better use of money than the ellington boondongle.

DCPS needs to tell Ellington to move within a few years. This is the old Western HS site and should be used for a general high school again. Ellington should be more centrally located because it draws from across the city, especially NE and SE. Ideally Ellington should be near an arts venue. DC taxpayers paid through the nose to renovate the Western HS building and it should serve a larger population.

Ellington has the facilities it needs where it has them. It just needs better management

Ok, but upper NW doesn’t have the high school facilities it needs where it needs them.

The best site for a relocate Ellington woukd be the former Jefferson Junior High School site, now called “Jefferson academy, “in Southwest, which is transit accessible, centrally located, and — here’s the kicker — close to Arena stage.

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https://www.uptownurbanist.com/blog/council-approves-ward-3-anc-map

Those are not the officially approved maps. Where’s a link to the DC government source?

This is from Bob Ward's blog and from previous posts on this board it seems like he alone draws the maps.

It’s quite outrageous and sad to watch what is happening in Ukraine and realize that only four years ago Ward was working to bring a Russian puppet politician (ex-Pres. Viktor Yanukovych) back to power, initially as head of a Russian Donbas “autonomous republic.” (Now, that’s a split.) And Ward somehow was made Ward 3’s Mr. Redistricting?!?

What?! How morally corrupt. I’m so tired of his soliloquies on the local list serves. Comes across as a demagogue with a thin veneer of “we know best for the people”. Where’s the investigative journalism? Let’s unmask the demimonde running in these elections so people have a fair choice. And make room for clean candidates

You mean the soliloquies about if you don’t love Smart Growth, you’re against diversity, equity, inclusion and affordable housing? Pretty slick when Fabrizio Ward (co-owned with the guy who made the Willie Horton ad) was polling and messaging for Donald Trump, who promised to “save” communities from affordable housing. It’s now whatever spin sells the dog food that he’s peddling for current clients.