Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t know if Lance Twiggs was his partner. Please don’t start rumors and wait until the investigation presents the facts.

This could ruin a young persons life. There’s been enough pain already.

Roommate knew the plan and did nothing.

Cooperating after the murder is still
Murder 2 accomplice in most states.

Roommate knew of it after the fact, not before

The voicemail said: go get the wrapped rifle later in the trees behind the XYZ building.

Oops.

That is AFTER

I don’t think we know. It doesn’t make sense it would be after- he wouldn’t know what he talking about unless he knew of plan prior.

Yes we all know

Ignore the fools still playing dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

“Having the same beliefs are parents had 40 years ago”? Like women and black people being lesser than?? That’s not odd? What happened to him is indeed horrible. Everything I’ve seen from friends on social media-including those on the left-agree. Not one of them is celebrating. You have some interesting friends, PP. And if you look at places like X-you see foolishness on both sides but only one side is calling for a Civil War and bloodshed.

Good grief, woman. 40 years ago was 1985. You really think women and black people were "lesser than" in 1985? You don't know much.

Per Charlie Kirk, women are always lesser than. He said women should be subservient.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think it is about the Christian right that f@cks these kids up so hard?

The story is always something like “he was raised in a strict Christian family and now he’s living with 10 male hookers and had 50 guns in the house. His dad was a cop, and the mom knew her place. They were all molested by 100 Boy Scout troop leaders.”

Can you please not. This is not how he was raised and not typical of Christian conservatives.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

“Having the same beliefs are parents had 40 years ago”? Like women and black people being lesser than?? That’s not odd? What happened to him is indeed horrible. Everything I’ve seen from friends on social media-including those on the left-agree. Not one of them is celebrating. You have some interesting friends, PP. And if you look at places like X-you see foolishness on both sides but only one side is calling for a Civil War and bloodshed.

Good grief, woman. 40 years ago was 1985. You really think women and black people were "lesser than" in 1985? You don't know much.

South side Chicago was still pretty nice then. Before the welfare dependency rage.
Per Michelle’s book too.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?

He died in the first publicly filmed political assassination since 1968. It is a big deal. You may not like a single thing he said, but this is no ordinary death.

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They know, they’re just trying to rile up who knows who. DCUM is all liberals so preaching to the choir

Of course I “know” who he is. Why wasn’t there 350+ pages denouncing the Minnesota murders, that were actual political assassinations? Because you all have decided his life was more valuable. I disagree with that 100% but that’s not to say I think his life didn’t have value. His life was as important- no more, no less - than anyone else’s. Period.

Not to say their life was any less important but nobody had heard of a couple legislators from a random state until that incident occurred. On the other hand, Kirk was known/followed by millions of people on the right. People only tend to care about things that personally effect them. That's the difference in reaction that you see.

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Anonymous wrote:Where did this kid learn to shoot like that? Is he a patsy for the real shooter?

He grew up in a pro gun family.

You don’t learn skills like that hunting deer or playing call of duty. That’s military marksman level expertise

You obviously have not seen the family photos with the glorification of military style weapon weapons. This family wasn’t into hunting unless you include people.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

Not only are people cheering Charlie Kirk’s assassination, they are actively threatening Trump, Matt Walsh, and others.

That’s going both ways. There were plenty of posts in this thread that were deleting that seemed like veiled threats.

I assume you are equally horrified by all the posts and outbursts by GOP politicians and the POTUS calling for violence, beat downs and vengeance on Democrats and liberals with no qualifiers whatsoever. You are HORRIFIED by this, correct? Right? Right?

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

"Most people"? Good lord, where do you live?

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Anonymous wrote:They’ll both rot in prison and/or death penalty.

Both? Was there a second perpetrator?

The transgender boyfriend will be charged as well I predict. He is cooperating with the investigation to lessen his own sentence

Where was it released that he has a transgender boyfriend? Or are you going on the clothes being worn?

If it's the color of his clothes then there's a fairly popular tiktoker, and very big Kirk supporter, who must also be transgender. He was wearing pink the other day.

In one of the articles, a neighbor is quoted as saying they did not think or know the the roommate is transgender. I think it is being inferred and there is no confirmation. My very straight husband wears pink.

wtf sound the childhood neighbor know where the 22 yo was living or living with?

Gawd.

Do you all have actual jobs and tasks to do Monday-Friday or is this really your level of independence thought and interpretation when you read something?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this guy’s murder so special? I really don’t get it. I knew who he was, but he’s one victim of too many gun violence victims to count. Once we start with “he’s a victim we like, so his death means more” we’re sunk. I guess we’re sunk either way, but this guy is a dime a dozen victim of gun violence, something he said was a necessary part of our culture. So what’s with all this fanfare?

He died in the first publicly filmed political assassination since 1968. It is a big deal. You may not like a single thing he said, but this is no ordinary death.

+1

They know, they’re just trying to rile up who knows who. DCUM is all liberals so preaching to the choir

Of course I “know” who he is. Why wasn’t there 350+ pages denouncing the Minnesota murders, that were actual political assassinations? Because you all have decided his life was more valuable. I disagree with that 100% but that’s not to say I think his life didn’t have value. His life was as important- no more, no less - than anyone else’s. Period.

Not to say their life was any less important but nobody had heard of a couple legislators from a random state until that incident occurred. On the other hand, Kirk was known/followed by millions of people on the right. People only tend to care about things that personally effect them. That's the difference in reaction that you see.

Using Kirk to say the left are generally more violent, that is the stretch. Sorry, anecdote does not refute broader statistics.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

“Having the same beliefs are parents had 40 years ago”? Like women and black people being lesser than?? That’s not odd? What happened to him is indeed horrible. Everything I’ve seen from friends on social media-including those on the left-agree. Not one of them is celebrating. You have some interesting friends, PP. And if you look at places like X-you see foolishness on both sides but only one side is calling for a Civil War and bloodshed.

Good grief, woman. 40 years ago was 1985. You really think women and black people were "lesser than" in 1985? You don't know much.

Per Charlie Kirk, women are always lesser than. He said women should be subservient.

And what did he immediately say after that, that men should be? During that same 60 minute topic you aren’t explaining.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

Not only are people cheering Charlie Kirk’s assassination, they are actively threatening Trump, Matt Walsh, and others.

There will always be random. People are more likely bots saying this stuff. show me one well-known Democrat, who has said this, and I’ll show you Trump and his entire cabinet

[Anonymous]

Sounds like Robinson hated his family, was radicalized online and felt he was protecting his trans girlfriend.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

Not only are people cheering Charlie Kirk’s assassination, they are actively threatening Trump, Matt Walsh, and others.

That’s going both ways. There were plenty of posts in this thread that were deleting that seemed like veiled threats.

I assume you are equally horrified by all the posts and outbursts by GOP politicians and the POTUS calling for violence, beat downs and vengeance on Democrats and liberals with no qualifiers whatsoever. You are HORRIFIED by this, correct? Right? Right?

Can you cite what you are referring to?

All I’m seeing is my friends cheering this guys death.

I hate his message but I don’t agree with killing people because we don’t agree with their values.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy does not deserve nearly 350 pages of discussion, imo. He was just one guy. One. And nothing special. Certainly nothing to celebrate.

There are many, many people who are killed by gun violence each years, many of them kids, students, just minding their business. It's so gross that the Right is blathering on and acting like this guy was some sort of christ-like figure. And they say NOTHING about kids. Nothing about Minnesota. Nothing about the church in Georgia. Nothing about the kids in Denver, etc. THIS is what you use your social platform for? GTFOH.

He didn't deserve to die, no matter how vile he was (and he was). But neither does anyone else. Charlie didn't care about them, though. He thought gun policy would affect other people and didn't care. So I'm going to show him as much empathy as he has shown other people and other victims. He gets no further air time from me.

I don't know what to tell you. I listened to him every day while driving. I agreed with a lot of what he said. None of it was strange. He had the kind of opinions most of our parents held 40 years ago plus being an excellent apologist for Christianity. Now he's dead, killed in front of his own little children. and most people where I live cheered that death. It was that cheering that jolted me, far worse than the killing itself. That people I considered friends want people like me to die for our opinions.

That is horrible, and I am sorry for your experience, but truly you have strange friends. I have one social media friend out of hundreds who made a crass comment and not one other friend said anything remotely close to "cheering." Yes some people criticized him, which apparently the Trump administration is trying to get people fired for, but cheer? That is disgusting and not normal.

Not only are people cheering Charlie Kirk’s assassination, they are actively threatening Trump, Matt Walsh, and others.

That’s going both ways. There were plenty of posts in this thread that were deleting that seemed like veiled threats.

I assume you are equally horrified by all the posts and outbursts by GOP politicians and the POTUS calling for violence, beat downs and vengeance on Democrats and liberals with no qualifiers whatsoever. You are HORRIFIED by this, correct? Right? Right?

examples?