Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

I wonder if more will opt in once the boundaries are set. I would think the lack of boundaries is making people hesitate until they know whether there is a bus that would come to their neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

There is only one person that sounds entitled in this conversation and it is not the person you're quoting. From my understanding, the neighbors who are zoned to this school (for sure Floris, Coates, McNair, and many from Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield) are all very excited about this school. Maybe other people in impacted areas (looking at you, Centerville mom) are upset, but the immediate neighbors of this school are happy about it.

I am not sure how it is that the Centerville parents were caught off guard by potential moves to Westfield. This has been discussed since the entire process started. Westfield was going to be moving students to Skyview and Cetnerville would ba backfilling those students. That is how Centerville is able to go from over capacity to a reasonable number of students. It is why people have been saying that Centreville doesn't need the expansion and only renovation.

The purpose of Skyview is to relive over crowding and at capacity schools in Western Fairfax. Chantilly is moving students to Skyview and Centerville is moving students to Westfield. Both of the over capacity schools see relief. The schools at capacity, Westfield and SLHS, drop in numbers so that they are not close to being over capacity any time soon.

Relieving over crowding was the whole point. Did Centreville families think that they were going to stay at an over crowded school when there was now space at Westfield?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if more will opt in once the boundaries are set. I would think the lack of boundaries is making people hesitate until they know whether there is a bus that would come to their neighborhood.

The boundaries won't be set until June, I am not sure what mvoement they will allow at that point Maybe for the 10th graders because there is so much space but who knows.

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

There is only one person that sounds entitled in this conversation and it is not the person you're quoting. From my understanding, the neighbors who are zoned to this school (for sure Floris, Coates, McNair, and many from Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield) are all very excited about this school. Maybe other people in impacted areas (looking at you, Centerville mom) are upset, but the immediate neighbors of this school are happy about it.

It seems like you may be in an epistemic bubble. We aren’t seeing the numbers for 9 and 10 grades that would support your claim of significant interest. The numbers actually show the opposite.

Also interesting that your side continually $hit$ on RIO and proclaim that those families don’t speak for their area, then you turn around and proclaim everyone in your area supports the new school.

It’s clear that there are a handful of very motivated posters here who want a traditional school. But I count that number as a handful, nothing more.

wait? You are honestly arguing that the fact that only 450 freshman enrolled, out of the 500 that they were looking for, and 200 sophomores enrolled means families are not interested? Most of the people I know who choose to stay at SLHS did so because they wanted to play sports or participate in the theatre program, which are not going to be available or available at the same level as the existing program at SLHS. Had there been sports, there would have been more kids opting in. THe other concern was over the transportation. Staying at SLHS meant keeping transportation and families that cannot drive their kids to school choose SLHS.

No one is surprised at the smaller number of 10th graders.

There is plenty of enthusiasm for the school.

Agreed. My 10th grader was very interested in Skyview but is choosing to stay at SL for the time being due to class availability reasons, but may revisit if it turns out we are in boundary and it looks like enough classes will be offered. DC needs higher level world language courses and I don’t want them to do them online. We may switch Junior year if things look good because we prefer AP over IB.

[Anonymous]

Personally, I wish they'd just rip off the band-aid and make the MS and ES changes in 26-27 if they're going to do it at all. If they wait, it will put my kids in 2 separate middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

You don't get to determine that only existing areas are entitled to a neighborhood school like you have, and everyone else just gets to "deal with it." So glad that you lost and no matter what you type here, you get to live with the fact that you won't get your way.

I am sure this is an Oakton parent who wants everyone to be quiet about neighborhood schools, because it puts a spotlight on the fact that they are fighting to stay at a school that is 10 miles away while 4 or 5 other schools are closer. They want to keep pretending it's not inconvenient at all and that their neighbors with younger kids should not want a better situation for the future. They have a very condescending "trust me, you want to stay at Oakton" tone in all their messaging, as though they are the only ones who can weigh pros and cons and only their perspective matters.

If Oakton was unappealing to you, why did you buy in that school district? Did you not know
you were districted to Oakton? I suppose your neighbors aren’t condescending but merely assuming you would prefer the district you bought into.

DP but you know Skyview wasn't an option until this year, right? People are allowed to weigh the options they are presented and realize the closer brand new school is the better option for their family. Give it up, crazy lady.

I think you’re the crazy one who can’t handle getting called out for sitting idle then complaining about ppl wanting to keep their school districts in tact. It’s fine to have another opinion but you keep calling ppl crazy for calling you out for being lazy and ignoring the issue until now. Perhaps if you had spoken up initially, you’d be going to Skyview

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

There is only one person that sounds entitled in this conversation and it is not the person you're quoting. From my understanding, the neighbors who are zoned to this school (for sure Floris, Coates, McNair, and many from Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield) are all very excited about this school. Maybe other people in impacted areas (looking at you, Centerville mom) are upset, but the immediate neighbors of this school are happy about it.

I am not sure how it is that the Centerville parents were caught off guard by potential moves to Westfield. This has been discussed since the entire process started. Westfield was going to be moving students to Skyview and Cetnerville would ba backfilling those students. That is how Centerville is able to go from over capacity to a reasonable number of students. It is why people have been saying that Centreville doesn't need the expansion and only renovation.

The purpose of Skyview is to relive over crowding and at capacity schools in Western Fairfax. Chantilly is moving students to Skyview and Centerville is moving students to Westfield. Both of the over capacity schools see relief. The schools at capacity, Westfield and SLHS, drop in numbers so that they are not close to being over capacity any time soon.

Relieving over crowding was the whole point. Did Centreville families think that they were going to stay at an over crowded school when there was now space at Westfield?

Its Centreville.
Everyone doesn't live online. People are going about their lives, hear vaguely something about a new school all the way up in Herndon somewhere (and nowhere near Centreville) and it doesn't even cross their mind that there will be some domino effect with kids moving here or there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

DP, but the PP was correct, option 2 won overwhelmingly at both meetings.

Even if you were at both meetings, how do you make this assertion? Was there a vote amongst all attendees (in person and zoom) that quantified the support?

Each breakout room had a spokesperson that had to speak to the larger group and answer what scenario their group favored and what factor was most important in the decision, and every spokesperson said Scenario 2 for the most part. And the number one factor that came up was distance/proximity to school. Everyone agreed it didn’t make sense to pull kids out high schools that were much closer to them geographically and send then to one further away.

Were you asleep during the meeting or did you not attend?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

DP, but the PP was correct, option 2 won overwhelmingly at both meetings.

Even if you were at both meetings, how do you make this assertion? Was there a vote amongst all attendees (in person and zoom) that quantified the support?

Each breakout room had a spokesperson that had to speak to the larger group and answer what scenario their group favored and what factor was most important in the decision, and every spokesperson said Scenario 2 for the most part. And the number one factor that came up was distance/proximity to school. Everyone agreed it didn’t make sense to pull kids out high schools that were much closer to them geographically and send then to one further away.

Were you asleep during the meeting or did you not attend?

And that happened at both meetings? Are these meetings recorded online?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

DP, but the PP was correct, option 2 won overwhelmingly at both meetings.

Even if you were at both meetings, how do you make this assertion? Was there a vote amongst all attendees (in person and zoom) that quantified the support?

Yes they had a live online poll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

There is only one person that sounds entitled in this conversation and it is not the person you're quoting. From my understanding, the neighbors who are zoned to this school (for sure Floris, Coates, McNair, and many from Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield) are all very excited about this school. Maybe other people in impacted areas (looking at you, Centerville mom) are upset, but the immediate neighbors of this school are happy about it.

I am not sure how it is that the Centerville parents were caught off guard by potential moves to Westfield. This has been discussed since the entire process started. Westfield was going to be moving students to Skyview and Cetnerville would ba backfilling those students. That is how Centerville is able to go from over capacity to a reasonable number of students. It is why people have been saying that Centreville doesn't need the expansion and only renovation.

The purpose of Skyview is to relive over crowding and at capacity schools in Western Fairfax. Chantilly is moving students to Skyview and Centerville is moving students to Westfield. Both of the over capacity schools see relief. The schools at capacity, Westfield and SLHS, drop in numbers so that they are not close to being over capacity any time soon.

Relieving over crowding was the whole point. Did Centreville families think that they were going to stay at an over crowded school when there was now space at Westfield?

Its Centreville.
Everyone doesn't live online. People are going about their lives, hear vaguely something about a new school all the way up in Herndon somewhere (and nowhere near Centreville) and it doesn't even cross their mind that there will be some domino effect with kids moving here or there.

Especially considering when they bought this school, the PR pushed out by FCPS was that it was to relieve Herndon kids from having to travel all the way to Oakton and overcrowded Chantilly HS. Why would anyone at Centreville think this would result in them being moved out of their school? People aren't poring over maps and SPAs all day. People hear "new school" "Herndon "Oakton" and think "sounds like a great idea" and move on with their thoughts.

[Anonymous]

So just to be clear, there is no mechanism to prevent someone from submitting 1000 comments on the boundary tool. ???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

DP, but the PP was correct, option 2 won overwhelmingly at both meetings.

Even if you were at both meetings, how do you make this assertion? Was there a vote amongst all attendees (in person and zoom) that quantified the support?

Yes they had a live online poll.

+1 There was a poll at the end. At the second meeting, the poll results were not even close. I'm not sure about the first meeting though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So just to be clear, there is no mechanism to prevent someone from submitting 1000 comments on the boundary tool. ???

Nope. You could send in a million comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So just to be clear, there is no mechanism to prevent someone from submitting 1000 comments on the boundary tool. ???

The board members have been talking to actual people and recieving real feedback. The boundary tool isn't the only way they're gauging interest.

But if you have the time and desire to submit 1000 comments, no one is stopping you, I guess...