Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Where does ODSL fit into the travel landscape now? Is it still "travel-light"?

[Anonymous]

...where's that CCL trroll when need him most...Blah,blah,blah

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Better yet...if you are the bottom 5 of a 20 man roster then you are a fringe player anyways...especually with the DA sub rules

But your dadcan run around pumping his chest telling everyone his kid plays DA.

I'd always pick the scenario my kid plays the most v riding a bench.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ ignore system coaches clubs leagues
ccl is certainly not a well-structured TRAVEL league if it puts my 6th grader in a car driving that far

skip everyone of those games and go spend time playing soccer with a friend over a tennis net or against a wall

Again, you put your kid in the car not CCL. You placed league status above what is best for your kid and family.

Most clubs have multiple leagues for a single age group-ours has 3. Many places won't even tell you until after you accept the offer which team/league you'll be on/in.

[Anonymous]

So what's your opinions on stoddert girls travel soccer. Are there better options for someone in DC?

[Anonymous]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1K5EjybrDKksNa4jjGRrSXd7kCynJRUvPK_e6heXdyNk/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4

Washington spirit girls Da presentation link above

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ ignore system coaches clubs leagues
ccl is certainly not a well-structured TRAVEL league if it puts my 6th grader in a car driving that far

skip everyone of those games and go spend time playing soccer with a friend over a tennis net or against a wall

Again, you put your kid in the car not CCL. You placed league status above what is best for your kid and family.

Most clubs have multiple leagues for a single age group-ours has 3. Many places won't even tell you until after you accept the offer which team/league you'll be on/in.

Ditto. Same experience. We had a choice between two convenient nearby clubs. Both A teams. One in NCSL and one in CCL.

We chose the CCL team because the coach was an amazing coach, female for my DD, and the training plan more advanced. There was a big sacrifice of course as we knew we would have to play in CCL, which is poorly organized and has unnecessary travel distances.

At U9 and 10, it has a bad structure, where you play the same 7 clubs over and over, many of which have shaky teams. Playing the same bad teams over and over was not enjoyable.

At U11 and U12, it got even worse, with travel to Richmond, VA Beach, Williamsburg, Roanoke, etc. to play some real weak teams at times. We all hated those drives, as did almost every parent on the team, but chose not to switch clubs because of the amazing coach we had, as we all know how important the coaching choice is, and we all know the advice that leagues should not matter.

But unfortunately they do to some extent . . . when we scrimmaged Great Falls, Alexandria, Bethesda, etc. locally and realized all the good teams in this area, we realized the scam that CCL is.

My advice is to find the best coach you can on a team that does not play in CCL. Apparently, CCL knows it has an UNreasonable travel problem and is addressing it.

It is true there is a crazed poster on here that beats a dead horse and tries to sell CCL as a well designed, well organized, league for U9 to U-12. He or she must work for CCL and this is their job to build it up on DCUM! LOL.

Trust us. It is not. Trust the many posts that have explained how the long travel for 5th and 6th graders is just insane. I forgot to mention that at U11, many of these weaker southern CCL clubs can't even field teams, so you end up with a season where you maybe play 6 games total in Fall, and about the same in Spring. NCSL seems to have a structure that works and avoids this, but our coach said she had know choice under club rules but to play in CCL. She didn't like it either, so that tells you a lot!

So I get your situation, but the poster who labels himself as the CCL Guy thinks we pick CCL to impress friends and should move to a different coach and team if we don't like the travel in CCL travel soccer. He is full of contradictions to his own advice, and has an agenda to defend CCL.

Or, he may just be a pure troll after all. Got a good laugh out of that . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1K5EjybrDKksNa4jjGRrSXd7kCynJRUvPK_e6heXdyNk/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4

Washington spirit girls Da presentation link above

Jim Gabarra is TD for VA
No head coaches named yet
Practice locations not named yet
But...
The flow chart clearly shows the VA team will be a Va-Md combo....I'm assuming Nova and Southern Md......and then they will have WS Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ ignore system coaches clubs leagues
ccl is certainly not a well-structured TRAVEL league if it puts my 6th grader in a car driving that far

skip everyone of those games and go spend time playing soccer with a friend over a tennis net or against a wall

Again, you put your kid in the car not CCL. You placed league status above what is best for your kid and family.

Most clubs have multiple leagues for a single age group-ours has 3. Many places won't even tell you until after you accept the offer which team/league you'll be on/in.

LOL, so even if true, it is the club or leagues fault that you accepted a position without know what team your kid is on? Or you didn't look to see what leagues the club generally plays in before hand?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1K5EjybrDKksNa4jjGRrSXd7kCynJRUvPK_e6heXdyNk/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4

Washington spirit girls Da presentation link above

Jim Gabarra is TD for VA
No head coaches named yet
Practice locations not named yet
But...
The flow chart clearly shows the VA team will be a Va-Md combo....I'm assuming Nova and Southern Md......and then they will have WS Baltimore.

WS VA games played in Boyd's Md simultaneous with WS Md team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ ignore system coaches clubs leagues
ccl is certainly not a well-structured TRAVEL league if it puts my 6th grader in a car driving that far

skip everyone of those games and go spend time playing soccer with a friend over a tennis net or against a wall

Again, you put your kid in the car not CCL. You placed league status above what is best for your kid and family.

Most clubs have multiple leagues for a single age group-ours has 3. Many places won't even tell you until after you accept the offer which team/league you'll be on/in.

Ditto. Same experience. We had a choice between two convenient nearby clubs. Both A teams. One in NCSL and one in CCL.

We chose the CCL team because the coach was an amazing coach, female for my DD, and the training plan more advanced. There was a big sacrifice of course as we knew we would have to play in CCL, which is poorly organized and has unnecessary travel distances.

At U9 and 10, it has a bad structure, where you play the same 7 clubs over and over, many of which have shaky teams. Playing the same bad teams over and over was not enjoyable.

At U11 and U12, it got even worse, with travel to Richmond, VA Beach, Williamsburg, Roanoke, etc. to play some real weak teams at times. We all hated those drives, as did almost every parent on the team, but chose not to switch clubs because of the amazing coach we had, as we all know how important the coaching choice is, and we all know the advice that leagues should not matter.

But unfortunately they do to some extent . . . when we scrimmaged Great Falls, Alexandria, Bethesda, etc. locally and realized all the good teams in this area, we realized the scam that CCL is.

My advice is to find the best coach you can on a team that does not play in CCL. Apparently, CCL knows it has an UNreasonable travel problem and is addressing it.

It is true there is a crazed poster on here that beats a dead horse and tries to sell CCL as a well designed, well organized, league for U9 to U-12. He or she must work for CCL and this is their job to build it up on DCUM! LOL.

Trust us. It is not. Trust the many posts that have explained how the long travel for 5th and 6th graders is just insane. I forgot to mention that at U11, many of these weaker southern CCL clubs can't even field teams, so you end up with a season where you maybe play 6 games total in Fall, and about the same in Spring. NCSL seems to have a structure that works and avoids this, but our coach said she had know choice under club rules but to play in CCL. She didn't like it either, so that tells you a lot!

So I get your situation, but the poster who labels himself as the CCL Guy thinks we pick CCL to impress friends and should move to a different coach and team if we don't like the travel in CCL travel soccer. He is full of contradictions to his own advice, and has an agenda to defend CCL.

Or, he may just be a pure troll after all. Got a good laugh out of that . . .

Very helpful and good to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ ignore system coaches clubs leagues
ccl is certainly not a well-structured TRAVEL league if it puts my 6th grader in a car driving that far

skip everyone of those games and go spend time playing soccer with a friend over a tennis net or against a wall

Again, you put your kid in the car not CCL. You placed league status above what is best for your kid and family.

Most clubs have multiple leagues for a single age group-ours has 3. Many places won't even tell you until after you accept the offer which team/league you'll be on/in.

Ditto. Same experience. We had a choice between two convenient nearby clubs. Both A teams. One in NCSL and one in CCL.

We chose the CCL team because the coach was an amazing coach, female for my DD, and the training plan more advanced. There was a big sacrifice of course as we knew we would have to play in CCL, which is poorly organized and has unnecessary travel distances.

At U9 and 10, it has a bad structure, where you play the same 7 clubs over and over, many of which have shaky teams. Playing the same bad teams over and over was not enjoyable.

At U11 and U12, it got even worse, with travel to Richmond, VA Beach, Williamsburg, Roanoke, etc. to play some real weak teams at times. We all hated those drives, as did almost every parent on the team, but chose not to switch clubs because of the amazing coach we had, as we all know how important the coaching choice is, and we all know the advice that leagues should not matter.

But unfortunately they do to some extent . . . when we scrimmaged Great Falls, Alexandria, Bethesda, etc. locally and realized all the good teams in this area, we realized the scam that CCL is.

My advice is to find the best coach you can on a team that does not play in CCL. Apparently, CCL knows it has an UNreasonable travel problem and is addressing it.

It is true there is a crazed poster on here that beats a dead horse and tries to sell CCL as a well designed, well organized, league for U9 to U-12. He or she must work for CCL and this is their job to build it up on DCUM! LOL.

Trust us. It is not. Trust the many posts that have explained how the long travel for 5th and 6th graders is just insane. I forgot to mention that at U11, many of these weaker southern CCL clubs can't even field teams, so you end up with a season where you maybe play 6 games total in Fall, and about the same in Spring. NCSL seems to have a structure that works and avoids this, but our coach said she had know choice under club rules but to play in CCL. She didn't like it either, so that tells you a lot!

So I get your situation, but the poster who labels himself as the CCL Guy thinks we pick CCL to impress friends and should move to a different coach and team if we don't like the travel in CCL travel soccer. He is full of contradictions to his own advice, and has an agenda to defend CCL.

Or, he may just be a pure troll after all. Got a good laugh out of that . . .

"CCL guy" here. I have literally said every you posted above. I have never championed CCL, I have always said that you have choice and feel free to exercise that choice and do what is right for your kid and your family. CCL is not a "scam" because it doesn't work for you. There are great coaches and teams not in CCL, go and find them.

I am against a single model for this very reason. Choice is good in the long run. It doesn't mean that things are not muddled and hard to sort through but if you find a coach, good team, good parents and a schedule that works then what does the league matter? Nothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CCL guy here.

Through U12 CCL is a very good league. Good clubs, good competition. The league is well structured and organized. But, at these younger ages it is best to simply find the right coach and environment for your kid. Don't want to drive to Richmond for a U10 game then find a spot on a team in NCSL. But the point is shop the coach not the league.

At U13 and above you need to shop both coach, team and league a bit more. It depends on your kids actual playing level and their potential. Lots of things happen between 12-14 so finding the right coach is still the priority over league.

If your kid is talented and playing in college is realistic then the exposure that a team can provide via league play and showcases becomes more important. CCL does not offer the same quality of exposure as DA or ECNL.

But chest pounding over what league is what from U9-U14 is a waste of energy because it just doesn't matter, and that means you "I don't like the travel in CCL guy". Don't do it because it doesn't matter one bit in the long run. No College coach ever asked what league your kid played in when they were nine years old.

"Through U12 CCL is a very good league. Good clubs, good competition. The league is well structured and organized."

...how much ccl paying u?!...ccl sucks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ ignore system coaches clubs leagues
ccl is certainly not a well-structured TRAVEL league if it puts my 6th grader in a car driving that far

skip everyone of those games and go spend time playing soccer with a friend over a tennis net or against a wall

Again, you put your kid in the car not CCL. You placed league status above what is best for your kid and family.

...you are clueless about travel soccer...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ ignore system coaches clubs leagues
ccl is certainly not a well-structured TRAVEL league if it puts my 6th grader in a car driving that far

skip everyone of those games and go spend time playing soccer with a friend over a tennis net or against a wall

Again, you put your kid in the car not CCL. You placed league status above what is best for your kid and family.

Most clubs have multiple leagues for a single age group-ours has 3. Many places won't even tell you until after you accept the offer which team/league you'll be on/in.

Ditto. Same experience. We had a choice between two convenient nearby clubs. Both A teams. One in NCSL and one in CCL.

We chose the CCL team because the coach was an amazing coach, female for my DD, and the training plan more advanced. There was a big sacrifice of course as we knew we would have to play in CCL, which is poorly organized and has unnecessary travel distances.

At U9 and 10, it has a bad structure, where you play the same 7 clubs over and over, many of which have shaky teams. Playing the same bad teams over and over was not enjoyable.

At U11 and U12, it got even worse, with travel to Richmond, VA Beach, Williamsburg, Roanoke, etc. to play some real weak teams at times. We all hated those drives, as did almost every parent on the team, but chose not to switch clubs because of the amazing coach we had, as we all know how important the coaching choice is, and we all know the advice that leagues should not matter.

But unfortunately they do to some extent . . . when we scrimmaged Great Falls, Alexandria, Bethesda, etc. locally and realized all the good teams in this area, we realized the scam that CCL is.

My advice is to find the best coach you can on a team that does not play in CCL. Apparently, CCL knows it has an UNreasonable travel problem and is addressing it.

It is true there is a crazed poster on here that beats a dead horse and tries to sell CCL as a well designed, well organized, league for U9 to U-12. He or she must work for CCL and this is their job to build it up on DCUM! LOL.

Trust us. It is not. Trust the many posts that have explained how the long travel for 5th and 6th graders is just insane. I forgot to mention that at U11, many of these weaker southern CCL clubs can't even field teams, so you end up with a season where you maybe play 6 games total in Fall, and about the same in Spring. NCSL seems to have a structure that works and avoids this, but our coach said she had know choice under club rules but to play in CCL. She didn't like it either, so that tells you a lot!

So I get your situation, but the poster who labels himself as the CCL Guy thinks we pick CCL to impress friends and should move to a different coach and team if we don't like the travel in CCL travel soccer. He is full of contradictions to his own advice, and has an agenda to defend CCL.

Or, he may just be a pure troll after all. Got a good laugh out of that . . .

I am a champion of CCL because I say it is a good U Little league but not as good above U13? Wow, that is a real ringing endorsement.

The dead horse that keeps getting beat is the issue over travel at the younger ages. Again, there are leagues with good coaches and teams in good clubs not in CCL that are options if the current travel structure of CCL does not work for you. We get it, you don't like driving far away for games. You are not wrong for feeling that way but don't act like you do not have a choice or say in the matter. Who accepts a position for their kid, pays a deposit and does not know what team the kid is even on? Nobody, that's who.

"Oh they made me play in CCL. I didn't know what team my kid was on when I forked over $200-$300 to hold my kids spot. Nowhere on the clubs website was there any mention of the leagues that the club plays in. How was I possibly to know anything before I even voluntarily took my kid to a tryout? Waaaaaaa"

That is just plain lazy on your part.

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