Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Meren does not like any of the Scenarios and would propose no boundary changes for elementary schools.

Nobody wants the elementary school boundary changes. We were not expecting those. We were only expecting high school changes.

Oak Hill ES parent here. I agree, scenario 1/3 would move our child out of Oak Hill making an attendance island directing in conflict with Sec. 8130 goals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

You are dead wrong.
Why do you think that the catchment area is only three schools? It was never only three schools.
The catchment area is six elementary schools and most of the residents are strongly in favor of a traditional high school. One of the schools in consideration has strong, vocal opposition, but that group does not speak for all of that area.

The School Board should have put out the scenarios (the ones from last Fall) asked for feedback and then made the decision based on facts (proximity/overcrowding) and then made the decision on those factors--not on emotional/political factors.

Sometimes feedback includes logic--for example, in C and D of the original proposals, one of the closest neighborhoods to Skyview was kept at Westfield. That was ridiculous. That is reasonable feedback.
Emotional ties to a distant school is not reasonable feedback.

[Anonymous]

All of the scenarios had problems.
Of the 3, Scenario 2 would require the smallest number of changes to become acceptable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Meren does not like any of the Scenarios and would propose no boundary changes for elementary schools.

Nobody wants the elementary school boundary changes. We were not expecting those. We were only expecting high school changes.

Oak Hill ES parent here. I agree, scenario 1/3 would move our child out of Oak Hill making an attendance island directing in conflict with Sec. 8130 goals.

+1 Another Oak Hill parent. I've no idea about other areas, but if this is an example that XYZ group should not get paid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing a lot of lame rationalizations. If they seed Skyview with 1000+ kids from Westfield, some kids from other schools will need to move to Westfield, and the most obvious place to start is Centreville.

The shouldn’t need to seed Skyview with 1,000 Westfield kids if they simply move all of Franklin Farm (including Crossfield), Fox Mill, and Oak Hill. Those plus the opt ins and maybe half the Westfield kids would be plenty.

That would actually be a really nice school.

And it would defy geography! Look at a map. No one on the north side of hwy 50 should be going to Westfield. They were only sent there because there was no other place to send them at the time. It is a terrible, awful commute.

Bingo. Can’t believe how stupid and venal some of these folks are. A “really nice school” in their view creates a new Westfield attendance island north of Route 50 where kids at Coates and McNair get bused past Skyview on their long trip to Westfield.

Tell me about it. Our solution for the 3-mile commute next year will be "younger sibling gets dropped off at Skyview as older sibling drives to Westfield." We're fortunate to have this option that many families won't - but even for us the afternoon will be a choice between spending more than an hour on multiple buses or walking home.

I’m not following. Why would your Skyview kid get dropped off? No bus? Also, I bet you can just pupil place at Westfield if older sibling goes there.

Younger child opted in to Skyview - likes both the emphasis on STEM and its location as our neighborhood school. Even though every scenario has us in the Skyview boundary until that boundary is official (27-28 school year) there's no direct bus.

The Skyview folks have said at every meeting. there will be busses for kids who are in boundary. They have also said that they are looking at a hub system for the kids attending from areas that are not in boundary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

[Anonymous]

Those kids can go to Herndon instead of Skyview.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

You sound unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

You don't get to determine that only existing areas are entitled to a neighborhood school like you have, and everyone else just gets to "deal with it." So glad that you lost and no matter what you type here, you get to live with the fact that you won't get your way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

You don't get to determine that only existing areas are entitled to a neighborhood school like you have, and everyone else just gets to "deal with it." So glad that you lost and no matter what you type here, you get to live with the fact that you won't get your way.

I am sure this is an Oakton parent who wants everyone to be quiet about neighborhood schools, because it puts a spotlight on the fact that they are fighting to stay at a school that is 10 miles away while 4 or 5 other schools are closer. They want to keep pretending it's not inconvenient at all and that their neighbors with younger kids should not want a better situation for the future. They have a very condescending "trust me, you want to stay at Oakton" tone in all their messaging, as though they are the only ones who can weigh pros and cons and only their perspective matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am just hoping the new maps completely get rid of Scenarios 1&3 which are just so radical.

"Radical" only because you don't like the outcome for you. Scenario 1 is a crowd favorite over in my neck of the woods and accomplishes more of the actual goals FCPS claims to be aiming for with this whole boundary process. It's not perfect, but some minor tweaks make it the best for FCPS as a whole by far.

Luckily no one in the feedback groups at the last two meetings agrees with you. In every group the majority wanted Scenario 2 as it’s more conservative and doesn’t move as many kids.

This is absolutely not true. I attended the first meeting and this was NOT the case. Nobody was happy with ANY of the scenarios. You need to stop lying in the hopes that someone from Gatehouse/the consultant will see this and think "Oh yes, the majority want Scenario 2, we should go with that one". It's not going to happen. Other people were at those meetings, too. They didn't like your preferred scenario.

Yes it is. Every group spokesperson that night said Scenario 2 was the least offensive. In fact, at the second meeting the consultants even said Scenario 2 was designed to be the most conservative, moving the least amount of kids and less distance problems.

I did not attend the second meeting, but that is absolutely not true about the first meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been to both meetings as well and since Lees Corner has showed up in force and been very vocal, Scenario 2 has been deemed the favorite, but I'll say from my discussions with non Lees Corner people that Scenarios 1 and 3 are more popular than you'd think.

I imagine that there were more Lees corner people at the second meeting and yes, of course, that's the one where they don't get moved. But I have talked to a LOT of people that are pleased with Scenario 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

You sound unhinged. Get over it, not going to be a magnet school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just make it part-magnet and part-mediocre school. That way, the people who believe they are owed the school can have their regional school (I.e., the ones who say: it was in the CIP, so they are required to give it to us), and we won’t have the musical chairs fight as to which additional school or two gets moved to a place they don’t want.

It’s like the immediate neighborhoods near the new school are desperately trying to throw a block party that many others don’t want to attend, and the school board is now left to figure out which kids must be forced to go.

Make it stop.

No, they absolutely should not. Overwhelming support was, and still is, behind it being a traditional school. The squabbling now is only because the school board didn't do their jobs and come up with a single map to discuss. Instead they put 3 completely different maps out there ensuring as many as people as possible would be upset by at least one of them and this is what you get.

When you say overwhelming support, you mean from your geographic area. Most people outside of that two or three elementary catchment area would be happier with a magnet school. You sound like you are one of those parents who believes that you have a god-given right to the school.

What are you going on about? A new neighborhood HS in western Fairfax has been discussed for years, was in the CIP for over a decade, and was agreed upon by the School Board as the intended use of KAA shortly after its purchase. No one is claiming they have a “god/given right to the school.” They are simply asking FCPS to honor its years-long commitment and not change course merely because some parents are throwing a hissy fit over the possibility of being redistricted.

And lo, Szymanski replied, “thoust has seen thine future traditional school in the CIP, and the lord proclaimed it thus and the angels sang from Heaven.” Thy CIP will be done. Amen.

Do you realize how entitled you sound, especially with all the pushback a traditional school is getting from neighbors on multiple fronts?

You don't get to determine that only existing areas are entitled to a neighborhood school like you have, and everyone else just gets to "deal with it." So glad that you lost and no matter what you type here, you get to live with the fact that you won't get your way.

I am sure this is an Oakton parent who wants everyone to be quiet about neighborhood schools, because it puts a spotlight on the fact that they are fighting to stay at a school that is 10 miles away while 4 or 5 other schools are closer. They want to keep pretending it's not inconvenient at all and that their neighbors with younger kids should not want a better situation for the future. They have a very condescending "trust me, you want to stay at Oakton" tone in all their messaging, as though they are the only ones who can weigh pros and cons and only their perspective matters.

If Oakton was unappealing to you, why did you buy in that school district? Did you not know
you were districted to Oakton? I suppose your neighbors aren’t condescending but merely assuming you would prefer the district you bought into.