Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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What if Hamas and Abbas outlast Bibi? Yikes at this report yesterday from the Nytimes. Trump is going to flip on him like a pancake on a Sunday mornin’ if he reads this

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/world/middleeast/netanyahu-israel-leaks-explained.html

On the morning that Hamas raided Israel last year, a top Israeli general called his prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to tell him that hundreds of militants appeared to be preparing to invade.

Now, aides to the prime minister are under investigation for altering details about that call in the official record of Mr. Netanyahu’s activities that day, according to four officials briefed on the investigation.

The investigation is seen as deeply sensitive in Israel, where the question of what Mr. Netanyahu knew in advance of Hamas’s invasion, and when he was told, could prove crucial to his political future. It is expected to play a key part in a postwar assessment of the role political and military leaders may have played in one of the worst military failures in Israel’s history.

The accusation is just one of several leveled at Mr. Netanyahu’s aides in recent weeks. While Mr. Netanyahu himself is not a subject of a police inquiry, officials in his office are under investigation for trying to bolster his reputation throughout Israel’s war with Hamas by leaking classified military documents, altering official transcripts of his conversations and intimidating people who controlled access to those records.

Though disparate and complex, the cases have helped foster the impression among Mr. Netanyahu’s critics that his team has used illicit means to improve how he is perceived, at the expense of either the truth or national security, or both. Mr. Netanyahu and his office have denied the accusations, countering that it is his accusers who, by spreading falsehoods, have undermined Israel at a time of national peril.

The full extent of the new claims has not been revealed because most of them are subject to a gag order. Officials who told The New York Times about the investigations did so on the condition of anonymity because they were barred from speaking publicly about the matter.

Case 1: Phone records
On the day that Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, the prime minister spoke frequently by phone with senior security officials, including with his military secretary, Maj. Gen. Avi Gil. Police officers are assessing if aides to the prime minister secretly changed the records of those phone calls, according to the four officials briefed on the investigation. The investigation began after General Gil, who left his post in May, complained in writing to the attorney general that the official transcripts of the calls he had that morning with the prime minister appeared to have been altered, the officials said. General Gil said in his complaint that a senior aide to the prime minister had forced one of the transcribers to doctor the transcripts, the officials said.

In one of the conversations early on Oct. 7, General Gil told the prime minister that hundreds of Hamas operatives had started behaving in a way that suggested that they may be about to invade Israel, according to three officials briefed on the investigation. The timing of that call is one of the details that is said to have been changed in the official transcripts. The content and timing of these calls are important because they could help shape the way that Mr. Netanyahu is seen by both voters and historians.


Case 2: An embarrassing video
The forgery case has been compounded by fears that an aide to Mr. Netanyahu intimidated a military officer who controlled access to the phone records, according to four officials briefed on the incident.
The officer was filmed on a security camera installed in the prime minister’s headquarters committing an act that could cause him personal embarrassment, the officials said.
After the incident, a senior aide to the prime minister approached the officer and told him that he had obtained a video of the embarrassing act, the officials said. The senior aide was the same person accused of ordering the transcriber to tamper with the records of Mr. Netanyahu’s conversations, according to the officials.
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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if its not Iran but Israel who actually funds Hamas to justify its ethnic cleansing and land grabbing? I don't see Iran benefiting from it.


It is a known fact that Netanyahu strengthened Hamas to divide the Palestinians.


What is your source for this "known fact?" How did he strengthen Hamas?


Agree you really ignorant to the fact that Netanyahu funded Hamas?



You are attributing far too much power to the Israelis. If Netanyahu had funded Bozo the Clown, would Palestinians accept the Clowns for their leadership? Of course not. It is not Israeli manipulation that has most adults in Gaza supporting Hamas.


Yikes, the zionists delusional thinking is quite frightening
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Israel cannot stop the war without first cleaning up all the evidence related to their war crimes
And despite everything, Israel can’t eliminate Hamas. To do so they need to look into the root causes of that organization even being in existence
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What embarrassing act?
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.


They said the same of Jews. Europe did want them, America didn't want them, and the middle east got stuck with them.
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.



It’s not that they don’t want them. It’s that if they take them, they are basically giving up Gaza and the West Bank to Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.


How should they bring them? Bring a plane ✈️ or a boat that Israel will shoot down? Through the airport at Tel Aviv? At least speak with sense not just spewing dumb Israeli logic. That’s why Israel is so dumb right now because the things they say and believe make no sense.

Why didn’t Europeans take in Jews for hundreds of years?
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Did you know Jews were banned like 100 times from various countries including the US?The only countries that never banned them were Russia and the Muslim world but the Jews are fighting the latter through their so called allies/frenemies the U.S. and Europe. Yikes. You should never bite the hand that feeds you and mother Russia and the Muslims were historically not the racist or genocidal ones to the Jewish community yet the Bolshevik Revolution and its sister movement Zionism massacred 50 million people in those areas while not a racist German, a Brit, a French, a Yank died. Jews wouldn’t even exist today if not for the safe haven of Russia and the Middle East. The savagery of the Catholics and the Anglos would’ve torn them to pieces or forced convert them all
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.


They said the same of Jews. Europe did want them, America didn't want them, and the middle east got stuck with them.


They didn’t get stuck with them. They were already in the Middle East for hundreds of years but they were Arabic speaking and identifying Jews so they were the wrong kind of Jews. Apparently the non semitic language speaking Yiddish Jews are the real jews. Arab which was a multi-faith ethnic group wnd language increasingly became synonymous with Islam only as Jews moved to Israel and christians and secular pan arab Muslims fled and lost to the Mossad- funded Islamic movmeents. There’s no Israel of 1948 demographically competitive with Palestine if the Middle East Jews could remain put in Iraq and Yemen and syria so the super right wing islamic movements put a fire under their ass to get out of dodge and quickly. To this day, Israel still loves islamic right wing movements like Hamas or isil because it helps unite Israel and helps them justify military drafts, Us military aid, and other such ancillary services and assistance. Both Hamas and Israel have a scam going where funding increases with war and crisis and drama and given the stupidity of both groups of people and leaderships, it’s not like they have to worry about a war drought. Hamas has lived probably for 10 years for free ij presidential suites in Qatar and Qatar has lost patience with them even before 10/7 but it was a phone call from Bibi in 2019 that made Qatar keep Hamas. Can you imagine trying to help an anti Israel pro Israeli annihilation group as the Israeli PM? Can you imagine living at presidential suites or in tunnels like your people starve to death and get polio? This is the type of failures of leaders they’re led by.
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I don’t blame the rest of the region for not wanting Israelis and Palestinians over there . Could you imagine what Qataris who give their entire country of natives six figure salaries for literally doing nothing thought about Hamas lounging at presidential suites at the ritz Carlton playing table tennis and swimming while Gazans starved and what they thought of Benjamin Netanyahu telling an Arab country to love and support Hamas a bit more and be more hospitable to them?
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.


Do they want Israelis? They’re the apple of the Middle East’s eye I’m sure
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Can you even imagine the howling calls for heads to roll if the tables were turned and pro-Palestinian protesters harassed a member of Congress like this ...

https://x.com/jakejakeny/status/1856778572372865223
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.


Do they want Israelis? They’re the apple of the Middle East’s eye I’m sure


The Israelis have no need or desire to resettle anywhere else. They have a successful functional pluralistic state which doesn't foment or export terrorism. While the presence of large numbers of Jews in Arab countries might be a benefit to those countries, religious animosity forecloses that possibility, as does the Israeli democratic tradition.
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Anonymous wrote:At this point ethnic cleansing is inevitable. West Bank Palestinians will be pushed into Syria and Gazans will be pushed into Egypt. Israel will wash it's hands of them and say the paletsinians are an arab problem just like the jews expelled from arab countries are israel's problem.

We can whine about it all we want but we not going to war to help Hamas retain control over Gaza. I don't know that they will push all the west bank Palestinians into Syria, I suspect those with work visas into Israel will get to stay.


No in to camps and they will be killed there. Boxcars are lining up now.


That would expensive. Much cheaper and easier to just push them into Egypt.

Hamas FAFO.


Um, how? Egypt has fortified their side of the boarder to a crazy degree and put up a new wall controlled by the Egyptian army on Egyptian land. Egypt won't take Palestinians.


What does Egypt known about the Palestinians that would lead to that result? As to the wealthy and relatively successful Arab countries, they're not lining up to bring in Palestinians with their grievances, terrorism, and corruption. Iran isn't exactly opening it's border to them, either.


Palestinians are the most educated and successful group of people in the Middle East wherever they go (Latin America, US). The Gulf princes all have Palestinian and Pakistani doctors because their trust fund kids are lazy and spend their time getting business degrees from US universities their fathers donated) . If you want to do a this vs that battle, it’s the Israelis that are deeply unpopular in the Middle East not Palestinians and it’s not because they’re Jewish. Iranians are also deeply unpopular in the Arab world and they’re Muslim. It’s because Arabs don’t trust them and think both groups are sectarian and have an expansionist agenda particularly in the Levant (Shia crescent and Greater Israel)


Yet, no neighboring Arab states want the Palestinians, despite the foregoing list of their manifest virtues.


Do they want Israelis? They’re the apple of the Middle East’s eye I’m sure


The Israelis have no need or desire to resettle anywhere else. They have a successful functional pluralistic state which doesn't foment or export terrorism. While the presence of large numbers of Jews in Arab countries might be a benefit to those countries, religious animosity forecloses that possibility, as does the Israeli democratic tradition.


Lol they traumatize generation after generation of their own armed forces. See what IDF soldiers have been driven to in the last year. This is not the behavior of members of a functional pluralistic state. They have created monsters.
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