Why are so many women here so angry with / resentful toward women who stay home?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

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Me too! The few SAHM I know very obviously do not want to work.

One had 2 cute kids. After both are in school she was finding herself bored and her husband was recommending that she could maybe look at part time work. She promptly got herself an untrained puppy. Since then she says she isn't looking to work again as now she has an untrained puppy and he takes up all of her time.

One mom was dating this rich guy who would not marry her. She got knocked up and after delivery has promptly stopped working. No mention of ever working again. Previously she was filling out law school applications.

It is quite bizarre.



You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

I am a SAHM. I actually know more than one SAHM who views their child's needs as a golden ticket to never working again. Some of the needs are severe. Others are things like child has ADHD and who would drive them to their tutor?!?! I have nothing against SAHM's obviously. Just admit you don't want to work (I dont.) Don't act like you have no choice.

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This is EXACTLY what I meant. Thank you. And settle yourself, karma poster.

I just quit to SAH with my son who has cerebral palsy. Settle yourself. If I heard you say that to me in real life, I would deck you and I don't think anyone would blame me.

NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT YOU. Sheesh.

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Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

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THIS!

You can see it in this thread alone.

I bet the quoted PP is 24 tops.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster who continually brings up our president is clearly troubled and angry. Nothing to do with this thread. That's the point.

LOL I was just going to type that. There's one very troubled sicko in here.

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Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

Typical angry AA woman.

Does AA here mean African American? Are you throwing the race card down?

Another nit wit just posted about white women, lol. Misery loves company.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster who continually brings up our president is clearly troubled and angry. Nothing to do with this thread. That's the point.

LOL I was just going to type that. There's one very troubled sicko in here.

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Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

Proud to be a #1

Well, gosh I 'm not on the list at all! You both have a lot of growing up to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

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THIS!

You can see it in this thread alone.

I bet the quoted PP is 24 tops.

Bahaha! I was thinking 20's also. Probably believes Huffington Post is real news instead of opinion. Follows the herd mentality with little life experience. It was cool to be a liberal on the campus, but now in the real world it doesn't always work. She's frustrated because her high conflict personality isn't helping her. Being overly opinionated isn't winning her friends, or a meaningful relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

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THIS!

You can see it in this thread alone.

I bet the quoted PP is 24 tops.

Bahaha! I was thinking 20's also. Probably believes Huffington Post is real news instead of opinion. Follows the herd mentality with little life experience. It was cool to be a liberal on the campus, but now in the real world it doesn't always work. She's frustrated because her high conflict personality isn't helping her. Being overly opinionated isn't winning her friends, or a meaningful relationship.

Are you in category 3?

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Let me shock the sh*t out of you. It is okay not to be a feminist. After all, being phugly and dressing like a trucker is not known as a pathway to a fulfilling life. To each her own.

One thing is for sure: Nobody find loudmouth women interesting, let alone attractive. Except cats. Cats love them.

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I like truckers and cats, lol.

Is there a category 4? I don't seem to fit into the pigeon hole she's created.

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Is there a category for meninists? I think I'm a meninist. I never believed in feminism. It's an ideology, just like communism.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a category for meninists? I think I'm a meninist. I never believed in feminism. It's an ideology, just like communism.

Millennials are not really feminists. Upper middle class millennial girls are the least motivated ones I know.

They all major in Mrs. degrees, marry rich, make organic babyhood and blog about it. They say its their feminist choice!

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Anonymous wrote:I have the daily delight of mansplaining. I am the lone token female in a sea of men.

We need more females. Many days it's a stampede of testosterone. Yes, I can handle simple division, but let's waste 10 minutes while you explain division.

It gets really lonely as you climb the ladder. Fewer women. I'm angry because there are so many capable women who gave up careers.

If you haven't been here, trust me, we are fighting a gender battle.

I agree with this 100%. All the SAHMs who claim we're all so jealous that they run the PTA and work out - actually, our frustration with your choices runs much deeper than that.

Why do you think you get to choose other people's values so that they align with yours and make your life more convenient? Are you hearing yourself?

Some of us have a greater view of the world than what's within our four walls. No one's choosing values - we're asking you to acknowledge that your choices affect other women who choose to stay in the workplace and remain professionally valuable / viable.

Sure okay. My choice to SAH gives you a bit of job security I guess since I am not competing for your job. And feel free to drop your kid here anytime your childcare arrangements fall through but you need to get to work. Really, I do feel somewhat responsible to support working parents since I am able to do so. I am glad to know that I am having a positive impact at least in my community.
I would feel like a jerk taking a job from someone who needs money more than I do and feels valued in the workplace. Now that I know I have some value outside of my four walls I actually feel even better about the choice I made to take care of my family and live according to my own values. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a category for meninists? I think I'm a meninist. I never believed in feminism. It's an ideology, just like communism.

Millennials are not really feminists. Upper middle class millennial girls are the least motivated ones I know.

They all major in Mrs. degrees, marry rich, make organic babyhood and blog about it. They say its their feminist choice!

Hehehe. Lighten up. I said MENiNiST! Oh! For the love! Kidding aside, I'm a millennial, crunchy, EBFing, paleo, mountain hiker-barre-yogi SAHM whole food Trader Joe Farmers Market shopper with a microbiology and immunology degree. SAH mommy friends have JDs and MBAs but we are married to high earning millennials who are MDs and business owners. DHs are very busy running the hospital and the fire department. You should visit our colony, just 2.5 h away from D.C.

We also have wife swaps and orgies. ?

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I don't give a shit what you do. In a few years, you will not care either. You will also not care what others think about your family choices. Don't waste your energy on this.

Mom to teen