Why are so many women here so angry with / resentful toward women who stay home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

Proud to be a #1

[Anonymous]

The poster who continually brings up our president is clearly troubled and angry. Nothing to do with this thread. That's the point.

[Anonymous]

You know you can be a feminist and still be feminine, right? You don't have to be aggressive. You don't need act like a guy. Part of our strength comes from our differences. Y'all are some of the angriest WOHMs I ever hear seen. I really hope I never have to work with any of you. Men aren't the problem. Other women aren't the problem. You are miserable because you spend your life trying to prove something that women are already doing. Just shut up and do your job.

Signed,

Happy WOHM who could not possibly care any less how my neighbor chooses to live her life. I just assume other moms are doing what works for their families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

Have you been to a Potomac neighborhood? My street alone has a lot of SAHM who has kids with CP, muscular dystrophy, ADHD, autism and other special needs. They put their careers first and got married in their 40s. DH are high earners, house are in 1-2 million range. Not sure if these are the PPs posting in here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

Typical angry AA woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know you can be a feminist and still be feminine, right? You don't have to be aggressive. You don't need act like a guy. Part of our strength comes from our differences. Y'all are some of the angriest WOHMs I ever hear seen. I really hope I never have to work with any of you. Men aren't the problem. Other women aren't the problem. You are miserable because you spend your life trying to prove something that women are already doing. Just shut up and do your job.

Signed,

Happy WOHM who could not possibly care any less how my neighbor chooses to live her life. I just assume other moms are doing what works for their families.

That's how most on this thread feel. A few angry women on here whose posts are red flags. We clearly see it, they don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think now in our culture we have 2 kinds of women:

1. Feminists. These are the girls who grew up believing that traditional gender roles were arbitrary and socially enforced. They went to top colleges and professional programs. They are doctors and lawyers and did not quit their careers once the children came along. They work because they want to. They pursue their career and intellectual passions and enjoy the pay and intellectual parity it brings them with men.

2. Feminists by necessity. These are lower income women who partake in a feminist lifestyle because of necessity. Since the major cornerstone of feminism is the idea that women need to be self sufficient and have access to economic opportunity, they live that out every day. They earn a decent paycheck, they contribute to their mortgage and bills.

3. Anti-feminists. These girls were never truly raised to believe they can be whatever they wanted to be. For some reason, traditional gender norms were reinforced to them. They went to school, sure,but only because they had to. They even became doctors or lawyers because these days, thats just what some do. Work or study until you find a man to take care of you. They can be high income or low in come by for whatever reason they deeply believe that housework is women's work. The achievement here isn't to get a JD from Harvard. Its to land a man with a big wallet. That way they have their JD from Harvard AND a rich husband. They're usually very braggy about this.

Now, its good and fine if women want to be in category 3. Just, please don't call yourselves "feminists" too. Because, honestly, no, you're not a feminist. You are not financially independent or self sufficient and you partake in traditionally gender roles.

You just made me LOL for real. If you really think this, I can tell that you have a *very* narrow, intolerant worldview. You must be very young to have so little experience of the world. You need to check your privilege double quick. People are dealing with ALL kinds of circumstances behind the scenes - SN kids, dying parents, depression, traveling spouses, sexual discrimination, abusive bosses, etc. etc. - that you know nothing about. Since you know nothing about these circumstances, it would be smart to keep your judgey mouth SHUT. I can tell that you're not that bright though.

Typical angry AA woman.

Does AA here mean African American? Are you throwing the race card down?

[Anonymous]

Upper class white SAHMs are NOT our friends.

Roe v. Wade is being challenged. Objectified female images proliferate. Males hold most of the wealth and power globally. Yet women continue to create life, caregive, nurture, home manage, eldercare, nourish the future citizens of the world all at a capitalist, or economic, value of zero. Its great that women have more options. It would be monumental if their innateness was recompensed just as any masculine work is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

I am a SAHM. I actually know more than one SAHM who views their child's needs as a golden ticket to never working again. Some of the needs are severe. Others are things like child has ADHD and who would drive them to their tutor?!?! I have nothing against SAHM's obviously. Just admit you don't want to work (I dont.) Don't act like you have no choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

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Me too! The few SAHM I know very obviously do not want to work.

One had 2 cute kids. After both are in school she was finding herself bored and her husband was recommending that she could maybe look at part time work. She promptly got herself an untrained puppy. Since then she says she isn't looking to work again as now she has an untrained puppy and he takes up all of her time.

One mom was dating this rich guy who would not marry her. She got knocked up and after delivery has promptly stopped working. No mention of ever working again. Previously she was filling out law school applications.

It is quite bizarre.



You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

I am a SAHM. I actually know more than one SAHM who views their child's needs as a golden ticket to never working again. Some of the needs are severe. Others are things like child has ADHD and who would drive them to their tutor?!?! I have nothing against SAHM's obviously. Just admit you don't want to work (I dont.) Don't act like you have no choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

+1

Me too! The few SAHM I know very obviously do not want to work.

One had 2 cute kids. After both are in school she was finding herself bored and her husband was recommending that she could maybe look at part time work. She promptly got herself an untrained puppy. Since then she says she isn't looking to work again as now she has an untrained puppy and he takes up all of her time.

One mom was dating this rich guy who would not marry her. She got knocked up and after delivery has promptly stopped working. No mention of ever working again. Previously she was filling out law school applications.

It is quite bizarre.



You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

I am a SAHM. I actually know more than one SAHM who views their child's needs as a golden ticket to never working again. Some of the needs are severe. Others are things like child has ADHD and who would drive them to their tutor?!?! I have nothing against SAHM's obviously. Just admit you don't want to work (I dont.) Don't act like you have no choice.

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This is EXACTLY what I meant. Thank you. And settle yourself, karma poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really amazed at all the people with SN kids on here. I see it so often that if I lived only in DCUM land I'd think 25% of newborns were born with mental deficiencies.

When you all say SN - what do you mean? Your kid is a brat? They have heart defects? They have Aspergers? What???

Obviously this poster isn't saying it kindly, but I see her point. It seems like half the SAHMs out there have kids with high / special needs that make working full-time out of the home impossible.

What's that saying? Pretty on the outside, bone ugly on the inside. Obviously you and the poster are ugly through and through. It must be horrible to have all that anger. For heaven's sake, if you are that unhappy change your circumstances.

Just clarifying her point. Of course there are all kinds of special needs that exist, some more severe than others. But it's clear that some - SOME - women use 'managing' that scenario as an excuse not to work.

+1

Me too! The few SAHM I know very obviously do not want to work.

One had 2 cute kids. After both are in school she was finding herself bored and her husband was recommending that she could maybe look at part time work. She promptly got herself an untrained puppy. Since then she says she isn't looking to work again as now she has an untrained puppy and he takes up all of her time.

One mom was dating this rich guy who would not marry her. She got knocked up and after delivery has promptly stopped working. No mention of ever working again. Previously she was filling out law school applications.

It is quite bizarre.



You're disgusting. You are so bitter towards SAHMs that you would accuse people of using their children's special needs as an "excuse"? Karma is going to get you. I'd watch out if I were you. You always get what you put out into the world and you put out hate and misery. Pure and simple.

Do you hear yourself? I mean that seriously. This is coming from a working mom by the way. You and the first PP quoted are nasty and not in the good way.

I am a SAHM. I actually know more than one SAHM who views their child's needs as a golden ticket to never working again. Some of the needs are severe. Others are things like child has ADHD and who would drive them to their tutor?!?! I have nothing against SAHM's obviously. Just admit you don't want to work (I dont.) Don't act like you have no choice.

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This is EXACTLY what I meant. Thank you. And settle yourself, karma poster.

I just quit to SAH with my son who has cerebral palsy. Settle yourself. If I heard you say that to me in real life, I would deck you and I don't think anyone would blame me.