Confederate Battle Flag

[Anonymous]

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"I'm free to wave my confederate banner and hold up signs depicting Obama as a monkey with "niggar" scrawled underneath it at the Tea Party rally but you liberals are not free to exercise your First Amendment rights to call me the racist that I am, you all need to shut up and be 'tolerant' of us."

That pretty much sums it up.

It does if you were attempted to demonstrate what nonsense looks like.

You must live in the FOX News bubble. You have absolutely no clue if you think that's "nonsense."

Have you always been so stupid, or just recently? See
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

Neo-nazis are right wing extremists, just like skinheads and other white supremacists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Confederate flags on campaign pins on Ebay right now:

. . .
And there are lots more like it out there - note that they are OVERWHELMINGLY endorsing conservative candidates.

Everyone knows redneck territory and liberals are mutually exclusive.

You forgot this one:

- and there are many other examples from other states; there are even more from Bill's election and re-election campaigns.

It's NOT an officially approved button. Most, if not all, candidates have buttons like that and if one sanctions it...then I will have a problem with them.

Not "officially approved" ??!? What about the votes it helped get for her? Were those "not official votes?"

She certainly did not seem at all opposed to the votes, or the campaign material bearing the confederate flag in 2008.

She travelled to the south three or four weeks ago to campaign; she even faked a southern drawl (an official one I suppose).

BUT SHE DID NOT ADDRESS THE FLAG. Imagine that - the perfect place and opportunity to speak out against the flag, and she failed to do so.

It's obvious she supports the flag when it suits her politically and opposes it whenever she thinks she can gin up a few votes.

Why should we trust her again?

"BUT SHE DID NOT ADDRESS THE FLAG"

WRONG. Apparently yet more shoddy FOX News reporting. Yes, she did address the flag. She said it should not fly, anywhere.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/23/hillary-clinton-confederate-flag-shouldnt-fly-anywhere/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^

"I'm free to wave my confederate banner and hold up signs depicting Obama as a monkey with "niggar" scrawled underneath it at the Tea Party rally but you liberals are not free to exercise your First Amendment rights to call me the racist that I am, you all need to shut up and be 'tolerant' of us."

That pretty much sums it up.

It does if you were attempted to demonstrate what nonsense looks like.

You must live in the FOX News bubble. You have absolutely no clue if you think that's "nonsense."

Have you always been so stupid, or just recently? See
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

Neo-nazis are right wing extremists, just like skinheads and other white supremacists.

If the PP wants to try "Yabut yabut NAZI says 'socialist' in its name" the PP might as well affix a big sticker that says "I am an uneducated moron" to his forehead. Nazis were not socialists, dear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confederate flags on campaign pins on Ebay right now:

. . .
And there are lots more like it out there - note that they are OVERWHELMINGLY endorsing conservative candidates.

Everyone knows redneck territory and liberals are mutually exclusive.

You forgot this one:

- and there are many other examples from other states; there are even more from Bill's election and re-election campaigns.

It's NOT an officially approved button. Most, if not all, candidates have buttons like that and if one sanctions it...then I will have a problem with them.

Not "officially approved" ??!? What about the votes it helped get for her? Were those "not official votes?"

She certainly did not seem at all opposed to the votes, or the campaign material bearing the confederate flag in 2008.

She travelled to the south three or four weeks ago to campaign; she even faked a southern drawl (an official one I suppose).

BUT SHE DID NOT ADDRESS THE FLAG. Imagine that - the perfect place and opportunity to speak out against the flag, and she failed to do so.

It's obvious she supports the flag when it suits her politically and opposes it whenever she thinks she can gin up a few votes.

Why should we trust her again?

"BUT SHE DID NOT ADDRESS THE FLAG"

WRONG. Apparently yet more shoddy FOX News reporting. Yes, she did address the flag. She said it should not fly, anywhere.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/23/hillary-clinton-confederate-flag-shouldnt-fly-anywhere/

Have you always struggled with basic reading comprehension? She made that statement ONLY AFTER the massacre occurred. Why don't you find a quote from her pre-dating the massacre? -like maybe from one of the many times she campaigned in the south and pandered to them with a fake southern accent which magically disappears when she crosses the Mason-Dixon?

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/05/331226-hillary-clintons-fake-southern-accent-is-baaaaaaack/

[Anonymous]

So I guess Mitt Romney was morally responsible for this button:

[Anonymous]

Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

[Anonymous]

More president carter

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jimmy+carter+confederate+flag&view=detail&id=3A392410C16AAF7A18D5C64B9CCA69118D450CC2&first=14&count=1&FORM=IDFRIR

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

Something from nearly 45 years ago - not particularly relevant today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

Something from nearly 45 years ago - not particularly relevant today.

You just know so much history about that flag- did jimmy carter feel it was a symbol of hatred and worse towards blacks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

Something from nearly 45 years ago - not particularly relevant today.

You just know so much history about that flag- did jimmy carter feel it was a symbol of hatred and worse towards blacks?

And if not, then when did it become one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

It's hard to blame Carter. He was running for Governor, and the State Flag at the time was basically the Stars and Bars with a small seal to the left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

Something from nearly 45 years ago - not particularly relevant today.

You just know so much history about that flag- did jimmy carter feel it was a symbol of hatred and worse towards blacks?

And if not, then when did it become one?

When did the flag become a symbol of hatred and worse toward blacks?

How about looking at what its designer, William Tappan Thompson, said about what it meant as a symbol:

As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.

Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.

As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.

When did it become a symbol of hatred and worse toward blacks? It was a symbol of hatred and worse from the day it was designed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

Something from nearly 45 years ago - not particularly relevant today.

You just know so much history about that flag- did jimmy carter feel it was a symbol of hatred and worse towards blacks?

And if not, then when did it become one?

When did the flag become a symbol of hatred and worse toward blacks?

How about looking at what its designer, William Tappan Thompson, said about what it meant as a symbol:

As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.

Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.

As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.

When did it become a symbol of hatred and worse toward blacks? It was a symbol of hatred and worse from the day it was designed.

The flag referred to here that has been flying in South Carolina (Stars and Bars) and you claim was designed by Thompson was not designed by him. He designed a flag that was adopted as the flag in 1863 that was known as the Stainless Banner because it had a pure field of white with the battle flag in the upper left hand corner. The flag in question (Stars and Bars) was designed by William Porcher Miles and was rejected as the national flag in 1861 but went on to be the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. Since that time it has been commonly called the Confederate Flag but it never was.

So, your quote by Thompson does not apply to the commonly called Stars and Bars flag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jimmy was coerced into this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados#/media/File:Confedarado.jpg

Something from nearly 45 years ago - not particularly relevant today.

You just know so much history about that flag- did jimmy carter feel it was a symbol of hatred and worse towards blacks?

And if not, then when did it become one?

When did the flag become a symbol of hatred and worse toward blacks?

How about looking at what its designer, William Tappan Thompson, said about what it meant as a symbol:

As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.

Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.

As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.

When did it become a symbol of hatred and worse toward blacks? It was a symbol of hatred and worse from the day it was designed.

The flag referred to here that has been flying in South Carolina (Stars and Bars) and you claim was designed by Thompson was not designed by him. He designed a flag that was adopted as the flag in 1863 that was known as the Stainless Banner because it had a pure field of white with the battle flag in the upper left hand corner. The flag in question (Stars and Bars) was designed by William Porcher Miles and was rejected as the national flag in 1861 but went on to be the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. Since that time it has been commonly called the Confederate Flag but it never was.

So, your quote by Thompson does not apply to the commonly called Stars and Bars flag.

The intent remains and is crystal clear.

[Anonymous]

What exactly is a South Carolinian in modern times? I've heard if plenty of northerners retiring there. People have moved and mixed so much over the past century, can someone truly claim to be OF a certain state?

What's a Floridian? A New Yorker? A Texan? What if you father is from Texas but his parents are from Taiwan? Is he less of a Texan than a white person with parents who moved to Texas from Chicago 30 years ago?

I just want to know who is responsible for taking down the Confederate flag at this point.