Why are younger men so right wing?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

DP. What you’re calling “not your identity” looks exactly like an identity because you treat this one statistically tiny, literally astronomically small issue as if it eclipses every other challenge facing kids today. When someone is so fixated on a problem that barely exists in the real world, dismisses all context, and waves away every larger, evidence‑based concern as a distraction, that’s not principled advocacy, that’s absolutely an identity‑level investment.

And that’s the irony here: you keep insisting this isn’t central to who you are, yet every post shows the opposite. You’re not engaging with scale, data, or proportionality. You’re not acknowledging that trans women in sports are a microscopic fraction of athletes, or that scholarship displacement is effectively zero, or that existing laws already cover misconduct in locker rooms. Instead, you’re treating this as a moral crusade that overrides everything else, even issues that actually DO affect millions of kids. That’s the very definition of an identity issue.

Dismissing everything else as “whataboutism” when everyone else is here legitimately pointing out that there are far bigger, real‑world threats to young people, such as mental health, guns, healthcare access, economic instability is frankly an insult. It just shows how deeply you’ve narrowed your worldview around this one topic. If you want to argue this isn’t your identity, the first step is engaging with the world beyond it. Right now, you’re proving the exact opposite and if anything you are completely failing women and young people by being so completely dismissive of these far bigger challenges and issues.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

Those are real things that impact society. You have it all completely backwards. This bathroom nonsense is the distraction from things that matter.

However, this is America and you are free to waste your time as you see fit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

I think we all know it's statistically rare. So now we can have the honest discussion: you think these cases are an acceptable risk in order to help trans people feel more comfortable. It's a zero sum game- either women, or trans people, get to feel comfortable. I am honest about the fact that I choose the safety for women at the cost of comfort for trans people. It's not fun to admit that you're the bad guy to one side, but it's honest, and it's the only path to compromise that treats both sides with dignity. Because saying that it was okay for these poor girls to be raped because it's rare- that isn't treating people with dignity.

You can choose to live your life in fear of something that will never directly impact you, or you can take on issues that are more likely to directly impact you. Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.

Agreed. Bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

I think we all know it's statistically rare. So now we can have the honest discussion: you think these cases are an acceptable risk in order to help trans people feel more comfortable. It's a zero sum game- either women, or trans people, get to feel comfortable. I am honest about the fact that I choose the safety for women at the cost of comfort for trans people. It's not fun to admit that you're the bad guy to one side, but it's honest, and it's the only path to compromise that treats both sides with dignity. Because saying that it was okay for these poor girls to be raped because it's rare- that isn't treating people with dignity.

You can choose to live your life in fear of something that will never directly impact you, or you can take on issues that are more likely to directly impact you. Statistically, it is very rare, to be raped by a trans person in a bathroom or locker room. On the other hand, the chances of being raped by a man in any other setting, including a bathroom or locker room, is much higher. Still higher, is to be shot in a mass casualty event or be in a car accident. So you can spend your time focusing on things that, while possible, are extremely unlikely to harm you, or you can worry about things that are more likely to impact you. Focusing on something so rare as a transperson raping you is just....bizarre.

The existence of trans people is also rare. We are talking about edge cases on either side. Yet, that is the discussion we are BOTH having- one rare thing vs another.

The other aspect of this is that people who are actually living as the opposite gender aren't very affected by the bans because no one would have cause to question them. There's a trans person in my life that virtually no one knows is trans. So no one would ever question why they are using the bathroom of the gender they express.

Which brings me back to the point that was unaddressed- allowing trans in bathrooms mostly helps AGPs who generally make minimal effort at appearing female, because its not about living as a female for them. In fact, they want women to know they are male in order to get a sexual thrill from shocking them. This is why we no longer have "flashers"-- which used to be a common crime. Now they can go to your teen daughter's swim locker room and get off that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Exactly, I have multiple kids that play multiple sports and it’s never been something that we’ve encountered, that we know of. These genitalia obsessed people are TERRIBLE at risk assessment.

They also don’t really even understand the public sentiment.

~90% of the public either supports (65%) protecting trans people from discrimination or has no opinion about it (25%), even as growing share say gender is determined by sex at birth. Feeling about sports participation gets more complex, but people understand that it’s so exceedingly rare that it’s not worth getting worked up over.


https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/

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Anonymous wrote:No real man is liberal.

They can’t be. They have actively villainized masculinity for the better part of two decades.
And if—as the lefts tells you all day long — “representation matters” then it might be a good idea of someone on the left would start realizing that demonizing masculine traits in men makes men who have those natural traits feel undervalued and marginalized by what is supposed to be their own party.

Try naming five examples of a masculine democrat male leader in n politics and you’ll see what I mean.

Young men feel abandoned by the left. It’s not that difficult to decipher.
But instead you’d rather demonize him or infantilize him by imagining that he’s gone crazy or is ignorant. He is neither. He just doesn’t buy into hating himself for having natural male traits like ambition, competitiveness, and physical strength. He also might like the idea that one should be rewarded for his own work output capitalist model of America that the left seems to abhor right now.

Five masculine Democratic men?

Easy.

Gavin Newsom
Mark Kelly
Mark Warner
Jared Golden
Seth Moulton

It doesn’t get more masculine than the Marine Corps and astronauts.

That took me less than 10 seconds to make that list btw

Same. Agree with your list and adding some more without any difficulty.

Pat Ryan

Jason Crow

Shapiro

Warnock

God willing he flips his old seat blue again: Tom Perriello

I’ll take the men in the Democratic party over whatever passes for MAGA masculinity any day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

DP. What you’re calling “not your identity” looks exactly like an identity because you treat this one statistically tiny, literally astronomically small issue as if it eclipses every other challenge facing kids today. When someone is so fixated on a problem that barely exists in the real world, dismisses all context, and waves away every larger, evidence‑based concern as a distraction, that’s not principled advocacy, that’s absolutely an identity‑level investment.

And that’s the irony here: you keep insisting this isn’t central to who you are, yet every post shows the opposite. You’re not engaging with scale, data, or proportionality. You’re not acknowledging that trans women in sports are a microscopic fraction of athletes, or that scholarship displacement is effectively zero, or that existing laws already cover misconduct in locker rooms. Instead, you’re treating this as a moral crusade that overrides everything else, even issues that actually DO affect millions of kids. That’s the very definition of an identity issue.

Dismissing everything else as “whataboutism” when everyone else is here legitimately pointing out that there are far bigger, real‑world threats to young people, such as mental health, guns, healthcare access, economic instability is frankly an insult. It just shows how deeply you’ve narrowed your worldview around this one topic. If you want to argue this isn’t your identity, the first step is engaging with the world beyond it. Right now, you’re proving the exact opposite and if anything you are completely failing women and young people by being so completely dismissive of these far bigger challenges and issues.

Amazing. You openly admitted to being unwilling to discuss a topic because other issues exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

Yes you did reference Loudoun, but now you're backing off of that to try and gesture around randomly after someone pointed out that was not trans and was wearing a skirt to be rebellious and non-conforming, rather than embracing trans identity. So now we're supposed to rely on some other non-specific "threats" given your central one is a bogus fabrication of right wing pundits.

And now this argument has shifted to "evolution, biology, xx vs xy," and this is a massive threat to women and young people how? You're moving the goalposts. That's a sign you lost the argument.

They are all related. Loudon is important because your position normalizes males and female segregated spaces.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

Can you cite exactly how many people we are talking about? Seriously, how many actual transitioning males to females are there at the high school level. Please show your work.

Let me give you one hint. In the COLLEGE level, out of over a half million athletes, there are only 10.
How many do you think there are in high school or younger?

Exactly, I have multiple kids that play multiple sports and it’s never been something that we’ve encountered, that we know of. These genitalia obsessed people are TERRIBLE at risk assessment.

They also don’t really even understand the public sentiment.

~90% of the public either supports (65%) protecting trans people from discrimination or has no opinion about it (25%), even as growing share say gender is determined by sex at birth. Feeling about sports participation gets more complex, but people understand that it’s so exceedingly rare that it’s not worth getting worked up over.


https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/

It's not really fair to say people are too focused on a rare issue when politicians and academics were changing everyday language to accommodate the incredibly rare trans person who might feel uncomfortable. Even medical websites would jump through numerous hoops to give pregnancy advice without using the word "women" so yes, it's an issue that most common people will have an opinion about.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

And yet you could remove this “scare tactic” by abandoning the ridiculous take take that biological males identifying as females have as much right to women’s spaces in sports and locker rooms as biological women, but choose not to.

I wonder if folks like you will ever realize what fools they’ve made of you, making a nearly non-existent problem into your complete identity, distracting you from the things that matter.

Ii might be the same people that were building bunkers for Y2K.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and this isn’t the only issue I care about. I may care more than most as the parent of a high level female athlete, but it is not my identity. I’m responding to you because I am incredulous that you (and another far leftists) still refuse to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to have thrown your full support behind allowing males identifying as women to take a place in women’s spaces. You’re deflecting left and right in this thread with “what about”, etc. but still refuse to acknowledge how misguided your support of this is.

DP. What you’re calling “not your identity” looks exactly like an identity because you treat this one statistically tiny, literally astronomically small issue as if it eclipses every other challenge facing kids today. When someone is so fixated on a problem that barely exists in the real world, dismisses all context, and waves away every larger, evidence‑based concern as a distraction, that’s not principled advocacy, that’s absolutely an identity‑level investment.

And that’s the irony here: you keep insisting this isn’t central to who you are, yet every post shows the opposite. You’re not engaging with scale, data, or proportionality. You’re not acknowledging that trans women in sports are a microscopic fraction of athletes, or that scholarship displacement is effectively zero, or that existing laws already cover misconduct in locker rooms. Instead, you’re treating this as a moral crusade that overrides everything else, even issues that actually DO affect millions of kids. That’s the very definition of an identity issue.

Dismissing everything else as “whataboutism” when everyone else is here legitimately pointing out that there are far bigger, real‑world threats to young people, such as mental health, guns, healthcare access, economic instability is frankly an insult. It just shows how deeply you’ve narrowed your worldview around this one topic. If you want to argue this isn’t your identity, the first step is engaging with the world beyond it. Right now, you’re proving the exact opposite and if anything you are completely failing women and young people by being so completely dismissive of these far bigger challenges and issues.

Amazing. You openly admitted to being unwilling to discuss a topic because other issues exist.

LMAO nope. We discussed and debated the topic and you lost.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof of the rape of Loudoun teens.

https://wjla.com/features/i-team/teen-suspect-found-guilty-in-loudoun-county-public-school-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-assault

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/11/virginia-governor-pardons-father-school-girl-sexually-assaulted

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/family-loudoun-county-sexual-assault-victim-sues-district-30m-students-rape-school-bathroom.amp

No one is saying this didn't happen. What they are saying is, this case is cited over and over as evidence of a widespread societal issue, when statistically, it isn't.

That is the difference: you care about statistics. I care about every single woman.

Do you care about the women in Loudoun county that were raped by anyone other than a trans person? Were there any? Probably not, right? I don’t think it ever happens.

It’s so telling how people like you are are entirely unable to stay on topic. Because you have no logical arguments to make.

It’s deflect deflect deflect with whataboutism in every single comment.

What about gun control?
What about women who are raped?
What about Epstein?
What about Trump being a bad guy?

Young Men are simply tired of having to pretend that humans can change their sex.

It's so telling that you commit one fraudulent fallacy after another, base rate neglect, refusal to acknowledge the far bigger and far more legitimate concerns of others and so on. Not to mention that the core of your whole argument about trans people being a threat to women hinges on a story about a Loudoun County kid who wasn't even trans to begin with. This isn't being dismissive, or minimizing legitimate concerns, it's about calling out your outright lies and bullshit.

I have not mentioned loudon.

My argument is evolution and biology. No xx will ever be xy.

You know not everyone is xx or xy, right? Pesky biology, making things hard.

Gender identity is not related to the tiny segment of the population that suffers from sex chromosome anomalies.

Again, unwillingness to stay on topic.

Because everyone knows xx can’t become xy and men can’t become women; so your argument is simply for abolishing protections for women.