Israel strikes Iran despite Trump's nuclear deal hopes

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Anonymous wrote:Scott Horton has said he has reliable sources inside the Beltway that say the decision has been made to enter the war against Iran. US aerial bombing of Iran could begin as soon as Monday.

https://news.antiwar.com/2025/06/15/sources-us-will-enter-israels-war-with-iran/


Great. We will weaken and exhaust ourselves for Israel’s sake, so that China can later attack and we will have nothing left.

I hate Trump.


The GOP is split on that and the democrats will be against. They really
do have a chance to work together to destroy any chance of passing any version of that big stupid bill until some adults enter the chat in the White House.


Why are you so sure the Democrats will be against it?


DP. MAGA is split on this. The Dems base is done with Israel. People are tired of Israel’s genocide and the pro Israelis calling everyone leftists or Hamas.

The Democrat activist class is done with Israel. Most of the rank and file want the war to stop but don't care enough to do anything about it, like support BDS.


MAGA isn’t really a big fan of war in Iran either
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Attacking civilians. This is pretty typical for Israel. Next up they will bomb hospitals and elementary schools. Any way they can terrorize the population. This just shows they have failed on their “stated” objectives. The rot in Israel is real and out of control.


They’re probably only to attack American civilians next in such a manner to manufacture fear and consent for the US invading Iran
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Attacking civilians. This is pretty typical for Israel. Next up they will bomb hospitals and elementary schools. Any way they can terrorize the population. This just shows they have failed on their “stated” objectives. The rot in Israel is real and out of control.


Yes, civilian nuclear sites being used to develop nuclear weapons, civilians in the IRGC and intelligence apparatus, and various military installations; whereas Iran has attacked only civilian targets, apart from one presumably unintentional strike at a U.S. Embassy facility and a random lucky strike on a single IDF facility surrounded by civilian structures. No terror there, right? Excusable, perhaps, as a reflection of the poverty of Iran's intelligence and technology, or else reflective of deliberate targeting of only civilians.
Anonymous
So China and Russia now have 3 f-35s to rip apart and study. Apparently the Houthis almost shot one down and this is when Trump made a deal with the Houthis.

If the backwards rebel group in Yemen can disrupt U.S. air operations so easily, how can America conduct effective air operations against a more sophisticated adversary?
According to new reporting from the New York Times, a Houthi surface-to-air (SAM) missile barely missed an American F-35 fifth-generation fighter, the crown jewel of the U.S. fighter inventory. The F-35, participating in Operation Rough Rider against the Houthis, was forced to take evasive action to avoid the missile.
The incident raises questions about the survivability of one of America’s most advanced fighters, and raises concerns over how effective the relatively unsophisticated Houthi air defense system has been at hampering U.S. action.
“Several American F-16s and an F-35 fighter jet were nearly struck by Houthi air defenses, making real the possibility of American casualties,” military analyst Gregory Brew posted on X, adding that the Houthis were successful in shooting down “seven American MQ-9 drones (around $30 million each), hampering Central Command’s ability to track and strike the militant group.”

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/the-houthis-almost-shot-down-an-f-35-and-washington-is-panicked
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Attacking civilians. This is pretty typical for Israel. Next up they will bomb hospitals and elementary schools. Any way they can terrorize the population. This just shows they have failed on their “stated” objectives. The rot in Israel is real and out of control.


Yes, civilian nuclear sites being used to develop nuclear weapons, civilians in the IRGC and intelligence apparatus, and various military installations; whereas Iran has attacked only civilian targets, apart from one presumably unintentional strike at a U.S. Embassy facility and a random lucky strike on a single IDF facility surrounded by civilian structures. No terror there, right? Excusable, perhaps, as a reflection of the poverty of Iran's intelligence and technology, or else reflective of deliberate targeting of only civilians.


Yawn. Hitting civilian infrastructure because you are unable to take out the military targets is pathetic. Stop making excuses for war crimes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So China and Russia now have 3 f-35s to rip apart and study. Apparently the Houthis almost shot one down and this is when Trump made a deal with the Houthis.

If the backwards rebel group in Yemen can disrupt U.S. air operations so easily, how can America conduct effective air operations against a more sophisticated adversary?
According to new reporting from the New York Times, a Houthi surface-to-air (SAM) missile barely missed an American F-35 fifth-generation fighter, the crown jewel of the U.S. fighter inventory. The F-35, participating in Operation Rough Rider against the Houthis, was forced to take evasive action to avoid the missile.
The incident raises questions about the survivability of one of America’s most advanced fighters, and raises concerns over how effective the relatively unsophisticated Houthi air defense system has been at hampering U.S. action.
“Several American F-16s and an F-35 fighter jet were nearly struck by Houthi air defenses, making real the possibility of American casualties,” military analyst Gregory Brew posted on X, adding that the Houthis were successful in shooting down “seven American MQ-9 drones (around $30 million each), hampering Central Command’s ability to track and strike the militant group.”

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/the-houthis-almost-shot-down-an-f-35-and-washington-is-panicked


Almost does not count in combat. Like saying “I almost won the lottery”.

I almost hit my target is called a miss.

The F-35 is almost 25 years old now and approaching end of life. It will definitely serve for another 20 but there are newer platforms out there the US has.
Anonymous
Apparently apartheid is in action even when it comes to bomb shelters in Israel.

“Shelter for Jews only”

Israelis preventing Thai and other foreigners from entering underground bunkers.

https://x.com/doamuslims/status/1934579626740695405
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Scott Horton has said he has reliable sources inside the Beltway that say the decision has been made to enter the war against Iran. US aerial bombing of Iran could begin as soon as Monday.

https://news.antiwar.com/2025/06/15/sources-us-will-enter-israels-war-with-iran/


Great. We will weaken and exhaust ourselves for Israel’s sake, so that China can later attack and we will have nothing left.

I hate Trump.


The GOP is split on that and the democrats will be against. They really
do have a chance to work together to destroy any chance of passing any version of that big stupid bill until some adults enter the chat in the White House.


Why are you so sure the Democrats will be against it?


DP. MAGA is split on this. The Dems base is done with Israel. People are tired of Israel’s genocide and the pro Israelis calling everyone leftists or Hamas.

The Democrat activist class is done with Israel. Most of the rank and file want the war to stop but don't care enough to do anything about it, like support BDS.


MAGA isn’t really a big fan of war in Iran either


MAGA will do whatever Trump says. Trump said so himself. They'll twist themselves in knots to make it make sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Attacking civilians. This is pretty typical for Israel. Next up they will bomb hospitals and elementary schools. Any way they can terrorize the population. This just shows they have failed on their “stated” objectives. The rot in Israel is real and out of control.


Yes, civilian nuclear sites being used to develop nuclear weapons, civilians in the IRGC and intelligence apparatus, and various military installations; whereas Iran has attacked only civilian targets, apart from one presumably unintentional strike at a U.S. Embassy facility and a random lucky strike on a single IDF facility surrounded by civilian structures. No terror there, right? Excusable, perhaps, as a reflection of the poverty of Iran's intelligence and technology, or else reflective of deliberate targeting of only civilians.


Yawn. Hitting civilian infrastructure because you are unable to take out the military targets is pathetic. Stop making excuses for war crimes.


You're describing Iranian targeting to a T. There's not much Iranian military infrastructure left, in contrast, reflective of Israeli targeting and consequent total air superiority.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Apparently apartheid is in action even when it comes to bomb shelters in Israel.

“Shelter for Jews only”

Israelis preventing Thai and other foreigners from entering underground bunkers.

https://x.com/doamuslims/status/1934579626740695405


From another credible news source! Got any more propaganda you'd like to try to proliferate in the service of your antisemitic narrative?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently apartheid is in action even when it comes to bomb shelters in Israel.

“Shelter for Jews only”

Israelis preventing Thai and other foreigners from entering underground bunkers.

https://x.com/doamuslims/status/1934579626740695405


From another credible news source! Got any more propaganda you'd like to try to proliferate in the service of your antisemitic narrative?

Caitlyn Bruce Jenner was in a shelter sipping vino.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So China and Russia now have 3 f-35s to rip apart and study. Apparently the Houthis almost shot one down and this is when Trump made a deal with the Houthis.

If the backwards rebel group in Yemen can disrupt U.S. air operations so easily, how can America conduct effective air operations against a more sophisticated adversary?
According to new reporting from the New York Times, a Houthi surface-to-air (SAM) missile barely missed an American F-35 fifth-generation fighter, the crown jewel of the U.S. fighter inventory. The F-35, participating in Operation Rough Rider against the Houthis, was forced to take evasive action to avoid the missile.
The incident raises questions about the survivability of one of America’s most advanced fighters, and raises concerns over how effective the relatively unsophisticated Houthi air defense system has been at hampering U.S. action.
“Several American F-16s and an F-35 fighter jet were nearly struck by Houthi air defenses, making real the possibility of American casualties,” military analyst Gregory Brew posted on X, adding that the Houthis were successful in shooting down “seven American MQ-9 drones (around $30 million each), hampering Central Command’s ability to track and strike the militant group.”

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/the-houthis-almost-shot-down-an-f-35-and-washington-is-panicked


Almost does not count in combat. Like saying “I almost won the lottery”.

I almost hit my target is called a miss.

The F-35 is almost 25 years old now and approaching end of life. It will definitely serve for another 20 but there are newer platforms out there the US has.


Is there any actual evidence that any F-35s have been shot down / captured for study? I can't find any. The only stuff I've seen out there is either bad AI, or photoshop, or videos from video games.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So China and Russia now have 3 f-35s to rip apart and study. Apparently the Houthis almost shot one down and this is when Trump made a deal with the Houthis.

If the backwards rebel group in Yemen can disrupt U.S. air operations so easily, how can America conduct effective air operations against a more sophisticated adversary?
According to new reporting from the New York Times, a Houthi surface-to-air (SAM) missile barely missed an American F-35 fifth-generation fighter, the crown jewel of the U.S. fighter inventory. The F-35, participating in Operation Rough Rider against the Houthis, was forced to take evasive action to avoid the missile.
The incident raises questions about the survivability of one of America’s most advanced fighters, and raises concerns over how effective the relatively unsophisticated Houthi air defense system has been at hampering U.S. action.
“Several American F-16s and an F-35 fighter jet were nearly struck by Houthi air defenses, making real the possibility of American casualties,” military analyst Gregory Brew posted on X, adding that the Houthis were successful in shooting down “seven American MQ-9 drones (around $30 million each), hampering Central Command’s ability to track and strike the militant group.”

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/the-houthis-almost-shot-down-an-f-35-and-washington-is-panicked


Almost does not count in combat. Like saying “I almost won the lottery”.

I almost hit my target is called a miss.

The F-35 is almost 25 years old now and approaching end of life. It will definitely serve for another 20 but there are newer platforms out there the US has.


Is there any actual evidence that any F-35s have been shot down / captured for study? I can't find any. The only stuff I've seen out there is either bad AI, or photoshop, or videos from video games.


There is zero evidence that a F-35 has been shot down over Iran. Much less three. It's just propaganda. But even for Iran, it's pretty pathetic propaganda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Attacking civilians. This is pretty typical for Israel. Next up they will bomb hospitals and elementary schools. Any way they can terrorize the population. This just shows they have failed on their “stated” objectives. The rot in Israel is real and out of control.


Yes, civilian nuclear sites being used to develop nuclear weapons, civilians in the IRGC and intelligence apparatus, and various military installations; whereas Iran has attacked only civilian targets, apart from one presumably unintentional strike at a U.S. Embassy facility and a random lucky strike on a single IDF facility surrounded by civilian structures. No terror there, right? Excusable, perhaps, as a reflection of the poverty of Iran's intelligence and technology, or else reflective of deliberate targeting of only civilians.


Yawn. Hitting civilian infrastructure because you are unable to take out the military targets is pathetic. Stop making excuses for war crimes.


You're describing Iranian targeting to a T. There's not much Iranian military infrastructure left, in contrast, reflective of Israeli targeting and consequent total air superiority.


Wow you Zionist twist everything. It is Israel who targets civilians, women and children. You people just bombed a TV station. True disgusting.
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