Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's going on with Lakewood ES in option 4?

First, it gets divided into two middle schools, Frost and Hoover, which seems pretty wild since Lakewood is right by Frost. Hoover appears to be a significantly longer distance for most of the kids being moved there.

Second, it gets divided into two high schools, Wootton and Crown, which also seems pretty wild since Lakewood is also right by Wootton. And it appears the kids being moved would have a similar or longer drive to Crown compared to Wootton.

And the Lakewood group that gets sent to Hoover for middle is not the same as the Lakewood group that gets sent to Crown for high school, so there are basically two different pieces of Lakewood being broken off at two different points of time. That seems less than ideal.

Shouldn't Lakewood be straightforward - Frost then Wootton? The schools are all right next to each other and don't have overcrowding issues.

This is all caused by the incorrect scoping that didn't allow changes in elementary school assignments. We should be furious with the BOE

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Anonymous wrote:Suddenly, I feel like QO high school is shining great among all 4 options. It is within walking distance, no busing and kids stay together from ES/MS.

Great as long as you are not in Kentlands.

why

Busing the Kentlands to Gaithersburg or Crown is just absurd. Not that I’m not enjoying the maga there whose tiny racist brain cells are exploding about these new boundaries but because they are fiscally irresponsible of the county and stupid. Kentlands walks to QO there is no reality sending them to the other HS makes sense logistically or fiscally.

As for Dufief yes

As for Stonemill out of W again no because W is already under enrolled. And the mapping logic makes no sense either.

They will do the worst possible senerio people get ready for major bussing.

You realize parts of dufief, stone mill and Travilah of basically equidistant to Wootton? And Dufief has maybe 35 kids per grade TOTAL. Dufief is part of the Wootton community, has been since forever. They don’t want to move schools. Moving them doesn’t help anything. Wootton is under enrolled, as you said. Just leave dufief alone.

How about just leaving Wootton alone. Why does MCPS create 4 options just to generate fights between different ES within Wootton? That’s pure evil and community dividing. Crown is built to alleviate overcrowding of other schools and Wootton is not overcrowded. None of the four options change diversity of any school so just leave Wootton alone. Don’t make the poorer neighborhoods in Wootton to pay the price just to satisfy this diversity game.

I am PP of above- yes, totally agree. Leave Wootton alone. But they won’t.

Everyone supporting leaving Wootton alone, I stand with you as I went to CJMS/WCHS but had so many friends go to Wootton.

Anyway as a resident of Wayside now who is across the street from the proposed border, I want to stay at WCHS.

Wootton folks, if you can sign this petition it can’t hurt your case the less likely they are to shift Churchill to Wootton the less likely they are to shift schools from Wootton to elsewhere.

https://chng.it/SNLndcftLR

I will not be signing that. You guys are nothing but a bunch of Karens. You talk about your “community” as if you’re an indigenous tribe or something. Your kids will be fine and will attend a less crowded school, which directly helps all the concerns listed on the petition.

+1 None of the items on that list is convincing. A set of entitled people.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 4 is the most reasonable/non drastic scenario.

Option 4 is one of the more drastic options after option 3.
Option 1 followed by option 2 seems better for most.

Option 1 does not address the capacity issues for several HS.
Options 1 and 2 boundary for MS is crazy, creating islands, once again.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 4 is the most reasonable/non drastic scenario.

Option 4 is one of the more drastic options after option 3.
Option 1 followed by option 2 seems better for most.

Option 1 does not address the capacity issues for several HS.
Options 1 and 2 boundary for MS is crazy, creating islands, once again.

I think we go with Option 5: Express that the board update the scope as required to address the issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 4 is the most reasonable/non drastic scenario.

Option 4 is one of the more drastic options after option 3.
Option 1 followed by option 2 seems better for most.

Option 1 does not address the capacity issues for several HS.
Options 1 and 2 boundary for MS is crazy, creating islands, once again.

I think we go with Option 5: Express that the board update the scope as required to address the issues.

someone stated that more options would be coming. Don't know if that's true or not, but yea, they need better options. Having stated that, there can never be an option that makes everyone happy or makes sense to everyone.

Unfortunately,

1. They did not include ES boundary changes
2. Too many schools are too close together which will cause some neighborhoods to go to a school a bit further away.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 4 is the most reasonable/non drastic scenario.

Option 4 is one of the more drastic options after option 3.
Option 1 followed by option 2 seems better for most.

Option 1 does not address the capacity issues for several HS.
Options 1 and 2 boundary for MS is crazy, creating islands, once again.

I think we go with Option 5: Express that the board update the scope as required to address the issues.

No. Just go with one of the options (tweak it a little bit only if absolutely necessary) and address more important issues. I don't want to see MCPS spending more time and resources on this.

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Anonymous wrote:Suddenly, I feel like QO high school is shining great among all 4 options. It is within walking distance, no busing and kids stay together from ES/MS.

Great as long as you are not in Kentlands.

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Busing the Kentlands to Gaithersburg or Crown is just absurd. Not that I’m not enjoying the maga there whose tiny racist brain cells are exploding about these new boundaries but because they are fiscally irresponsible of the county and stupid. Kentlands walks to QO there is no reality sending them to the other HS makes sense logistically or fiscally.

As for Dufief yes

As for Stonemill out of W again no because W is already under enrolled. And the mapping logic makes no sense either.

They will do the worst possible senerio people get ready for major bussing.

You realize parts of dufief, stone mill and Travilah of basically equidistant to Wootton? And Dufief has maybe 35 kids per grade TOTAL. Dufief is part of the Wootton community, has been since forever. They don’t want to move schools. Moving them doesn’t help anything. Wootton is under enrolled, as you said. Just leave dufief alone.

How about just leaving Wootton alone. Why does MCPS create 4 options just to generate fights between different ES within Wootton? That’s pure evil and community dividing. Crown is built to alleviate overcrowding of other schools and Wootton is not overcrowded. None of the four options change diversity of any school so just leave Wootton alone. Don’t make the poorer neighborhoods in Wootton to pay the price just to satisfy this diversity game.

I am PP of above- yes, totally agree. Leave Wootton alone. But they won’t.

Everyone supporting leaving Wootton alone, I stand with you as I went to CJMS/WCHS but had so many friends go to Wootton.

Anyway as a resident of Wayside now who is across the street from the proposed border, I want to stay at WCHS.

Wootton folks, if you can sign this petition it can’t hurt your case the less likely they are to shift Churchill to Wootton the less likely they are to shift schools from Wootton to elsewhere.

https://chng.it/SNLndcftLR

I will not be signing that. You guys are nothing but a bunch of Karens. You talk about your “community” as if you’re an indigenous tribe or something. Your kids will be fine and will attend a less crowded school, which directly helps all the concerns listed on the petition.

Joke's on you because Karen Drive remains zoned for Churchill in all four options.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

I have said this for a long time, before any boundary discussion. It is the most elegant contiguous solution. Of course people have their preferences based on past experience but none of that matters in these discussions. Now Kentlands leaving is a new topic of course with Crown, but agree with City boundaries being logical here, and having enough students to fill Crown in one swath.

Yup. Same reason why Fallsgrove and Ritchie Park should go to Wootton and all of King Farm to RM.

RM parent here and I would totally support that. Lets be real, "unofficially" most of King Farm goes to RM, even the Gaithersburg HS part. So tired of RPES parents whining about Wootton. I get it, you want to go to W school and not RM.

People want to be able to walk to the school that is literally behind their house...just like the walker neighborhood behind RM

Exactly!! Let’s move ANY high school’s closest neighborhood and bus them to another high school and see the uproar.

I’m so sick of saying it is W school issue. RM is a great school and you have the IB program. It’s about proximity, walkability, traffic, and neighborhood feels. And a complete waste of the budget to bus walkable kids to another school. In all 3 levels, but especially high school

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The families crying because their kids have to go to Wootton instead of Churchill are so shameful. Please get over it. I hope MCPS doesn’t give a damn and passes that proposal.

[Anonymous]

Whatever happens, can we all agree not to propose any options that will split a middle school to 4 high schools? That's just evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

I have said this for a long time, before any boundary discussion. It is the most elegant contiguous solution. Of course people have their preferences based on past experience but none of that matters in these discussions. Now Kentlands leaving is a new topic of course with Crown, but agree with City boundaries being logical here, and having enough students to fill Crown in one swath.

Yup. Same reason why Fallsgrove and Ritchie Park should go to Wootton and all of King Farm to RM.

RM parent here and I would totally support that. Lets be real, "unofficially" most of King Farm goes to RM, even the Gaithersburg HS part. So tired of RPES parents whining about Wootton. I get it, you want to go to W school and not RM.

Nah. I'm in the RPES cluster, and a lot of parents here would rather stay at RM than go to Wootton. I'm the PP who has stated repeatedly that MCPS is not going to move RPES to Wootton. And I'm fine with that.

RM Main Street is really nice. They did a great job. Kids love having open lunch. My kids enjoy/ed their time at RM. Many years ago when we moved here, we looked at homes from N. Potomac down to Kensington (I think we looked at over 40 homes). We could afford homes in Potomac. We chose the RM cluster for a reason.

Wootton is also falling apart (shame on MCPS).

I am the PP you are responding to. We were in the same boat. Chose RM over W/Potomac schools and I am actually happy we did.

Ok simmer down lol. If RM didn’t have the IB program it would be a trash. It brought in RPES to make it better and home equity is 70-100K less in many SFH neighborhoods. So then added IB. Then they added Fallsgrove. But the school can’t hide its core issues

[Anonymous]

It sounds to me like there are some really strong advocates in this group who should consider being a cluster coordinator for either QO or NW. As a Cluster Coordinator, you get an automatic time slot at the BOE meeting when this comes up for public comment.

Here are the details:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_h6rwNBYs3UX4PMVfQuJtctWFJ6du9ys/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=105021203034820989777&rtpof=true&sd=true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whatever happens, can we all agree not to propose any options that will split a middle school to 4 high schools? That's just evil.

Hence my strong dislike of options 2&3. I will die on that hill for Neelsville.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

I have said this for a long time, before any boundary discussion. It is the most elegant contiguous solution. Of course people have their preferences based on past experience but none of that matters in these discussions. Now Kentlands leaving is a new topic of course with Crown, but agree with City boundaries being logical here, and having enough students to fill Crown in one swath.

Yup. Same reason why Fallsgrove and Ritchie Park should go to Wootton and all of King Farm to RM.

RM parent here and I would totally support that. Lets be real, "unofficially" most of King Farm goes to RM, even the Gaithersburg HS part. So tired of RPES parents whining about Wootton. I get it, you want to go to W school and not RM.

Nah. I'm in the RPES cluster, and a lot of parents here would rather stay at RM than go to Wootton. I'm the PP who has stated repeatedly that MCPS is not going to move RPES to Wootton. And I'm fine with that.

RM Main Street is really nice. They did a great job. Kids love having open lunch. My kids enjoy/ed their time at RM. Many years ago when we moved here, we looked at homes from N. Potomac down to Kensington (I think we looked at over 40 homes). We could afford homes in Potomac. We chose the RM cluster for a reason.

Wootton is also falling apart (shame on MCPS).

I am the PP you are responding to. We were in the same boat. Chose RM over W/Potomac schools and I am actually happy we did.

Ok simmer down lol. If RM didn’t have the IB program it would be a trash. It brought in RPES to make it better and home equity is 70-100K less in many SFH neighborhoods. So then added IB. Then they added Fallsgrove. But the school can’t hide its core issues

shrug.. all schools have issues, but RM has some great programs, and yes, IB is one of them. That's what makes RM a great school - IB, AP, great theater/music department, athletics.

I heard Wootton lost their theater and orchestra teachers. My DC would've been heartbroken if RM theater/orchestra took a big hit. They love the RM theater program. Their annual musicals always have a full orchestra, and they are amazing. So many talented kids there.

I'm fine with my home value being a bit less than the houses literally 2 blocks from me in Potomac. RM has been great for my kids.

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This is why Urbana is the best school and place in Maryland. Frederick County doesn’t do DEI redistricting.