Another day, another school shooting

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

Still better than giving her kid weapons.

I'm not a gun owner and would never buy one for my child. She locked her kids out of the house and sometines in freezing weather. They were crying to get back in. They asked their neighbors for food. She has multiple arrests across 4 states. All of that can take a terrible toll on kids.

And her arrests span 17 years.

The whole family is clearly MAGA, aren't they?

Not sure why you'd make that comment...ignorance?

Not sure. It’s stating the absolute obvious, though.

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

There is probably more information than we know about. Gun could have been improperly stored or other signs were ignored. Can a 14 year old even own a gun or is it technically the father’s?

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

Four people are dead because he bought his 13-year old an AR-15. Go ahead, own guns…but pay the price for the hell you unleash.

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

There is probably more information than we know about. Gun could have been improperly stored or other signs were ignored. Can a 14 year old even own a gun or is it technically the father’s?

HE GAVE HIS 14-YEAR-OLD WHO HAD BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI A GUN. FOR CHRISTMAS.

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

Four people are dead because he bought his 13-year old an AR-15. Go ahead, own guns…but pay the price for the hell you unleash.

You know, like it’s your pencil’s fault for you beings a bad speller (before Gore gave us the internet).

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The father is charged because he bought a 13 year old an AR15 rifle and ammunition after having a sit down with the Sheriff’s office about posted threats made by his kid.

The FBI does not interview every person about every threat made on line. They do pass along information to local authorities if their team believes further investigation is warranted. That was done with this kid. An interview was conducted and a determination made by the Sheriff’s department not to take additional action. Then, after the interview, Dad bought the kid his own AR15. Eight months later the kid used his AR15 to shoot up his school.

Dad obviously ignored the issues his kid was having and bought his 13 year old a gun for a Christmas present. The gun was then used by the kid to kill others. What we do not know at this point - was the gun and ammunition locked in a gun safe that the kid was able to smash open to obtain? Or were they easily accessible?

Judging by the charges - it seems unlikely that the gun and ammunition were locked up in a manner the kid could not easily defeat - if at all. In the Michigan cases parents of a school shooter were convicted of manslaughter charges and serving lengthy sentences.

These charges are going to be normal and expected now when your child hurts others.

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

Four people are dead because he bought his 13-year old an AR-15. Go ahead, own guns…but pay the price for the hell you unleash.

You know, like it’s your pencil’s fault for you beings a bad speller (before Gore gave us the internet).[/quote

Like I said, people can feel free to cosplay with their AR-15's, etc. But when those weapons get used in murder, it's time to pay the legal price for that cosplay. As JD Vance says, school shootings are a fact of life. So, parents need to be held accountable as a matter of law going forward.

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From what I've read, the dysfunction in Colt's family can't all be ascribed to his mother. Her parents also point to the dad being verbally abusive, screaming at Colt. And Colt's mother had drug charges after she left her husband. So if she was using all the years before, what was he doing about it? And if the dad was yelling at schools because Colt was being "pinched and touched" (what was up with that?) what was he doing about getting some psychological help for Colt as well?

This doesn't get said much, but whenever these things happen my heart also breaks for the kid who ended up broken to the point of doing this.

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

There is probably more information than we know about. Gun could have been improperly stored or other signs were ignored. Can a 14 year old even own a gun or is it technically the father’s?

Haven't you see examples of the MAGA Christmas cards where everyone in the family gets an AR-15 for Christmas, including the 3 year old daughter who gets one in pink camo?
Under the law, nothing a kid owns belongs to the kid (with the exception of states that have laws to protect the earnings and assets of child entertainers). In my state, the paycheck my 14 year old got for his Saturday job at Taco John's was legally my money. The law does not allow guns to be SOLD to minors (21 for semi-auto handguns I think) but that's only about the transaction. I don't know what the law is regarding private sales which is moot in this instance.
And yes, signs were ignored. This is the third case I know of (Lanza, Crumbley) where the intent by the parents were to steer the kid away from other things (in this case video games per the father).

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

There is probably more information than we know about. Gun could have been improperly stored or other signs were ignored. Can a 14 year old even own a gun or is it technically the father’s?

We can’t go on “probablies” here. FBI failed. Why should father think son is dangerous if FBI don’t?

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Anonymous wrote:From what I've read, the dysfunction in Colt's family can't all be ascribed to his mother. Her parents also point to the dad being verbally abusive, screaming at Colt. And Colt's mother had drug charges after she left her husband. So if she was using all the years before, what was he doing about it? And if the dad was yelling at schools because Colt was being "pinched and touched" (what was up with that?) what was he doing about getting some psychological help for Colt as well?

This doesn't get said much, but whenever these things happen my heart also breaks for the kid who ended up broken to the point of doing this.

Probably trying to help her. JFC

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

So is every hobo on the street, it's not a crime. :roll: It's only a crime if she personally purchased the gun and handed it to the kid after being confronted by FBI for the threats kids made. Which is the reason the father was arrested from what I gather.

Bad parenting isn't a crime and isn't even always going to produce a maladjusted adult, not to mention a criminal or a psycho. Many kids who grow up with bad parents turn out not only ok but even achieve success against odds.

If mother didn't know about the kid's tendencies and didn't facilitate weapon procurement she isn't guilty. It's insane to think she is. By same logic every parent of every kid who killed someone should go to prison, why does it matter what the weapon of the murder is? If parenting is the cause of the kid committing a crime like some think, then any kid committing a crime did so because of their parents and parents should be incarcerated.

I personally think going after the father is cruel. He had a wife for a drug addict and it sounds like he was doing his best under the circumstances. The kid denied the allegations and, most importantly, the FBI let it go. There was no reason for the father to think his son was going to do that.

There is probably more information than we know about. Gun could have been improperly stored or other signs were ignored. Can a 14 year old even own a gun or is it technically the father’s?

We can’t go on “probablies” here. FBI failed. Why should father think son is dangerous if FBI don’t?

He can explain himself at trial. A 14-year old with an AR-15 is inherently dangerous. One that gets visited by the FBI, many times more so.

[Anonymous]

Wondering if school administrators will be also arrested for allowing Colt to be relentlessly bullied?

[Anonymous]

Don't give your 14 year old access to a machine gun if you don't want to go to prison if he turns out to be unstable. People in this country are obsessed with guns.

[Anonymous]

Yet the FBI protected this kid by doing absolutely nothing when they were alerted. They must be investigated. Or is this just another FBI failure and part of life and we should get used to it?