Kamala Harris for President

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Anonymous wrote:People who want to start an argument about abortion should start a thread about abortion, instead of hijacking every thread with stupid questions that were answered the day before.

+1 They never do this on the Roe thread because they get destroyed immediately.

democrats bring abortion into every thread.

It’s a key issue for many democrats.

You want to stop hearing about the women bleeding out in bathrooms? The babies dying in their parents arms? Fix your bad policies.

Donald Trump is dangerous to women. If you’d like that talking point to go away, get him on the campaign trail promising to restore Roe.

Abiding by forum rules is good manners and respectful to others. It also makes it much easier to discuss topics coherently.

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Anonymous wrote:With support in general for Dems esp running v Trump who is basically the evil incarnate for most, she will have the momentum to win. I truly believe this.

This thread should be saved because once she gets elected everyone will hate her. She has a record of incompetence and when your own staff is disloyal you have innate probs.

GOP will be strong in '28 for sure. They will kill the Dems. We may delay a few years MAGA from taking over but Kamala is not the savior all believe. She is the best sub for Biden and I suppose the one that is most logical and convenient. She's a woman and diversity candidate. She's right person right time. No bearing on whether she's actually going to be a good fit. I'm very pessimistic and sad she's the only one we have. On so many levels the Dems deserve their debacle having gone with Biden Kamala. Foresight is wisdom which the Dems truly lack.

Our country is doomed. Maybe not in 24 but certainly long term.

It is only doomed if we let it.

Say she wins this year and does 4 or 8 years. Hopefully by then the MAGA wing of the GOP will subside and we can get back to something more familiar for most of us. The GOP needs to shed the Evangelicals and "basket of deplorables" and get back to their meat and potatoes.

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Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

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Anonymous wrote:She has a 91% turnover rate with staff


Staffers in Harris’ office have reported a toxic work environment since 2021, when The Washington Post spoke with 18 individuals in Harris’ orbit. Descriptions ranged from “uncomfortable” to “soul-destroying.”

“One of the things we’ve said in our little text groups among each other is what is the common denominator through all this and it’s her,” former Harris aide and Democrat strategist Gil Duran told the Post. Back in 2013, after just five months of working for Harris, he quit. “Who are the next talented people you’re going to bring in and burn through and then have [them] pretend they’re retiring for positive reasons.”

Others said Harris blamed staff for her lack of preparation.

“It’s clear that you’re not working with somebody who is willing to do the prep and the work,” a former anonymous staffer told the Post. “With Kamala you have to put up with a constant amount of soul-destroying criticism and also her own lack of confidence. So you’re constantly sort of propping up a bully and it’s not really clear why.”

And Trump’s former employees are in prison, suing him for unpaid bills. And campaigning for the Democrats.

Workplace culture is going to be what you vote on?

After she got a new Chief of Staff, that all changed. Haven't heard a peep since.

I met her once. She is wonderful.

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Anonymous wrote:Other than race and identity politics, and trashing Donald Trump, what is Harris running on?

You can read her website since you clearly have internet access. But to sum up why I’ll be voting for her— she’s running on protecting my right and the rights of my daughters and nieces to access healthcare and not bleed to death in bathrooms or land in the ICU because we’ve been denied basic care.

How is she going to do that? It's a state-by-state basis after Dobbs, and she as president will have no control over the states that have stripped the rights of your daughters and nieces. She isn't Congress and the president isn't a monarch. What is she going to do? The rights are already stripped - Democrats whom I voted for let that happened when they refused to codify Roe.

It's a serious question. How is she going to do that?

We’re hoping that Thomas and Alito kick the bucket so she can appoint new SCOTUS and change the balance again.

Her platform is “hope two people die while my party controls the Senate”?

You can’t be serious.

And, again, as someone who votes for Dems…the conservatives are smart enough to time their justices’ retirements. Unlike RBG.

Seriously, for the party of constitutional democracy, pushing through this nominee without an open convention and then making a bunch of empty promises that cannot materialize under the constitution, this is sending quite the message.

If you want moderates to stay home in November, this is a great way to do it.

Like I’ve said, you’ve got the internet, read her website.

For me, for my husband, for every parent of a daughter I know, it would be sufficient to vote against Trump to protect our bodies and our children. You want more? Start reading.

Protect from what? Look at the state of this country and the world after 4 years of democrats running things.

Losing their mother when a wanted pregnancy goes septic?

Losing their fertility when an ectopic pregnancy isn’t treated?

Eighteen years of child support for our boys when a college hookup gets pregnant and can’t terminate?

And god forbid— a lifetime connection to a rapist if one of our daughters is denied an abortion. Rapists do not lose parental rights.

No thank you.

Nice fear-mongering.
Guess this is the most important issue to you. The right to kill a fetus.

Most of us are more concerned with the daily challenges that the Democrats have brought to our country.

NP. Emergencies happen during pregnancy ALL THE TIME. I had an emergency surgery during my first trimester… these laws around abortion make doctors hesitate and keep their hands tied and it’s scary. The fetus can’t have more rights than the mother.

In which state is abortion illegal when the life of the mother is at risk?

Letting her get to the point that her life is at imminent risk is a dangerous game.

Republicans have shown over and over that they can’t make rational abortion policy. They pass bans with window dressing exceptions, which leaves lawyers for the doctors and hospitals in charge of making medical decisions.

+1. PROMs and ectopic pregnancies are often not an imminent risk when discovered. These states wait until the woman is septic or ruptured, because her life isn’t at risk until then. Even though these pregnancies are no. And will need abortion care at some point. But when it’s legal to provide that care is a grey area. Because if a prosecutor eager to burnish his federalist society bona fides disagrees and thinks the MD aported too soon, they could go to jail for life.

It’s why the coalition of women are suing in TX. Their lives were saved by abortions— often out of state. But the delay in care from when it is was known their life would be at risk once the ectopic ruptures or the PROMs became septic and when the actual rupture of sepsis happened caused them permanent bodily harm and destroyed their fertility.

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So Harris, who has served at every level of government, including a stint as the AG for the state of California and serving in the US Senate, is somehow less qualified than a white male fail son who went bankrupt running legal casinos.

Yeah, OK.

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Anonymous wrote:Other than race and identity politics, and trashing Donald Trump, what is Harris running on?

You can read her website since you clearly have internet access. But to sum up why I’ll be voting for her— she’s running on protecting my right and the rights of my daughters and nieces to access healthcare and not bleed to death in bathrooms or land in the ICU because we’ve been denied basic care.

How is she going to do that? It's a state-by-state basis after Dobbs, and she as president will have no control over the states that have stripped the rights of your daughters and nieces. She isn't Congress and the president isn't a monarch. What is she going to do? The rights are already stripped - Democrats whom I voted for let that happened when they refused to codify Roe.

It's a serious question. How is she going to do that?

We’re hoping that Thomas and Alito kick the bucket so she can appoint new SCOTUS and change the balance again.

Her platform is “hope two people die while my party controls the Senate”?

You can’t be serious.

And, again, as someone who votes for Dems…the conservatives are smart enough to time their justices’ retirements. Unlike RBG.

Seriously, for the party of constitutional democracy, pushing through this nominee without an open convention and then making a bunch of empty promises that cannot materialize under the constitution, this is sending quite the message.

If you want moderates to stay home in November, this is a great way to do it.

Like I’ve said, you’ve got the internet, read her website.

For me, for my husband, for every parent of a daughter I know, it would be sufficient to vote against Trump to protect our bodies and our children. You want more? Start reading.

Protect from what? Look at the state of this country and the world after 4 years of democrats running things.

Losing their mother when a wanted pregnancy goes septic?

Losing their fertility when an ectopic pregnancy isn’t treated?

Eighteen years of child support for our boys when a college hookup gets pregnant and can’t terminate?

And god forbid— a lifetime connection to a rapist if one of our daughters is denied an abortion. Rapists do not lose parental rights.

No thank you.

Nice fear-mongering.
Guess this is the most important issue to you. The right to kill a fetus.

Most of us are more concerned with the daily challenges that the Democrats have brought to our country.

NP. Emergencies happen during pregnancy ALL THE TIME. I had an emergency surgery during my first trimester… these laws around abortion make doctors hesitate and keep their hands tied and it’s scary. The fetus can’t have more rights than the mother.

In which state is abortion illegal when the life of the mother is at risk?

You somehow missed that the state of Idaho went all the way to the Supreme Court trying to not have doctors able to perform abortions on women to save them.

+1. They were life fighting women out every single week for abortion care to save their lives because they could abort and save their lives in Idaho. Unless you think they life flight people whose lives aren’t at risk?

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Anonymous wrote:Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

+1

Independent, in menopause, who worries for her DD

Every man with a wife and/or daughter should be worried for them if they love them.

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Anonymous wrote:Other than race and identity politics, and trashing Donald Trump, what is Harris running on?

You can read her website since you clearly have internet access. But to sum up why I’ll be voting for her— she’s running on protecting my right and the rights of my daughters and nieces to access healthcare and not bleed to death in bathrooms or land in the ICU because we’ve been denied basic care.

How is she going to do that? It's a state-by-state basis after Dobbs, and she as president will have no control over the states that have stripped the rights of your daughters and nieces. She isn't Congress and the president isn't a monarch. What is she going to do? The rights are already stripped - Democrats whom I voted for let that happened when they refused to codify Roe.

It's a serious question. How is she going to do that?

We’re hoping that Thomas and Alito kick the bucket so she can appoint new SCOTUS and change the balance again.

Her platform is “hope two people die while my party controls the Senate”?

You can’t be serious.

And, again, as someone who votes for Dems…the conservatives are smart enough to time their justices’ retirements. Unlike RBG.

Seriously, for the party of constitutional democracy, pushing through this nominee without an open convention and then making a bunch of empty promises that cannot materialize under the constitution, this is sending quite the message.

If you want moderates to stay home in November, this is a great way to do it.

Like I’ve said, you’ve got the internet, read her website.

For me, for my husband, for every parent of a daughter I know, it would be sufficient to vote against Trump to protect our bodies and our children. You want more? Start reading.

Protect from what? Look at the state of this country and the world after 4 years of democrats running things.

Losing their mother when a wanted pregnancy goes septic?

Losing their fertility when an ectopic pregnancy isn’t treated?

Eighteen years of child support for our boys when a college hookup gets pregnant and can’t terminate?

And god forbid— a lifetime connection to a rapist if one of our daughters is denied an abortion. Rapists do not lose parental rights.

No thank you.

Nice fear-mongering.
Guess this is the most important issue to you. The right to kill a fetus.

Most of us are more concerned with the daily challenges that the Democrats have brought to our country.

NP. Emergencies happen during pregnancy ALL THE TIME. I had an emergency surgery during my first trimester… these laws around abortion make doctors hesitate and keep their hands tied and it’s scary. The fetus can’t have more rights than the mother.

In which state is abortion illegal when the life of the mother is at risk?

Have you ever heard of a woman named Kate Cox?

Answer my question. In which state is abortion illegal when the life of the mother is at risk? Anecdotes don't count.

Your question is a stupid one. The smart question is “where do state laws on abortion put the mother at risk” and you don’t seem clever enough to ask it.

The question really is, "which state doesn't give control over to lawyers to determine when the mother's life is at risk?"

+1. This terrifies me. And I’m a lawyer. Because I know if I had an MD client, I would have to advise them to never abort, no matter how dire. Because a someone like e with no medical training could second guess them— and not fine them, or ask the state medical board to review— but prosecute them for murder. When someone is “at risk” is too vague. You may know it when you see it. But you can’t trust the federalist society prosecutor to interpret it the same way you did.

Plus, I know lawyers should absolutely not be making these calls. We are in no way qualified.

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Anonymous wrote:The last thing Kamala needs to do is run on Roe v Wade and “saving democracy from Trump”. She was unelected and didn’t face a primary . That’s not democracy

These are two of the strongest issues for Democrats. You are not paying attention at all.

And it’s To their absolute detriment is my point.

They need to be talking money . In the words of James Carville, “It’s the economy , stupid”

I don’t hear any economic talk from the Democrats or the words working class or family at all. All I hear is Roe v Wade and saving the soul of America . Apparently countries have souls but 7 month babies do not

I mean, she is saying more than that. Listen to the latest speech. But if you don't pay attention to what she says, then if you just argue that you don't like what you're hearing, you're not arguing in good faith.

I turn the tv off when I hear her. If she talks about the economy it’s certainly further down the road when it should be the first thing she talks about . That’s what people want to hear. Americans aren’t hearing anything new when Dems rant about how bad Trump is. We know the guy doesn’t follow rules and has no scruples . He even says it .

This is not new information. Why doesn’t Kamala tell of more about who she is instead of who Donald is?

So you admit you do not listen to her, but that she is not talking about the economy even though people point out she is. Got it!

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Anonymous wrote:I think the only things Kamala knows how to do are crow about abortion and ask for money.

Is that all that Democrats want in a president?

As opposed to being vocally anti-women and asking for money? Yes. GOP screwed themselves up by going after women's rights and proposing absolutely nothing good.

She was a prosecutor, California AG and a senator and has spent 4 years being VP. She has just as much experience and accomplishment as any other candidate.

We also once had someone who was likely the most accomplished and prepared candidate in 2016, yet she still lost thanks to a couple thousand votes in 3 states. I will take our chances rather than Republican's this time around.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a 91% turnover rate with staff


Staffers in Harris’ office have reported a toxic work environment since 2021, when The Washington Post spoke with 18 individuals in Harris’ orbit. Descriptions ranged from “uncomfortable” to “soul-destroying.”

“One of the things we’ve said in our little text groups among each other is what is the common denominator through all this and it’s her,” former Harris aide and Democrat strategist Gil Duran told the Post. Back in 2013, after just five months of working for Harris, he quit. “Who are the next talented people you’re going to bring in and burn through and then have [them] pretend they’re retiring for positive reasons.”

Others said Harris blamed staff for her lack of preparation.

“It’s clear that you’re not working with somebody who is willing to do the prep and the work,” a former anonymous staffer told the Post. “With Kamala you have to put up with a constant amount of soul-destroying criticism and also her own lack of confidence. So you’re constantly sort of propping up a bully and it’s not really clear why.”

Cool, now do trump.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/markets/us/obama-says-abortion-rights-law-not-a-top-priority-idUSN29466420/

Remember this? Obama didn’t pass an abortion rights law in 2009 . He said it was not a priority.

Dems are poor planners and listeners and were so cocky they never thought the SC would swing right . They should blame themselves for not making Roe v Wade law when they had multiple administrations and chances to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:With support in general for Dems esp running v Trump who is basically the evil incarnate for most, she will have the momentum to win. I truly believe this.

This thread should be saved because once she gets elected everyone will hate her. She has a record of incompetence and when your own staff is disloyal you have innate probs.

GOP will be strong in '28 for sure. They will kill the Dems. We may delay a few years MAGA from taking over but Kamala is not the savior all believe. She is the best sub for Biden and I suppose the one that is most logical and convenient. She's a woman and diversity candidate. She's right person right time. No bearing on whether she's actually going to be a good fit. I'm very pessimistic and sad she's the only one we have. On so many levels the Dems deserve their debacle having gone with Biden Kamala. Foresight is wisdom which the Dems truly lack.

Our country is doomed. Maybe not in 24 but certainly long term.

Agree. It's a stop gap. Hopefully I'll be wrong, but feeling pessimistic long term, since Dems clearly aren't evolving.

Also agree. Democrats may squeak through this cycle because Trump is such an awful candidate. But until Democrats learn to listen and represent the concerns of working class families I don't see a great future for the party. When the Republican Party is seen as the party of the working class you have a major branding problem. And Kamala Harris is not fixing that.

We try! Biden has been bending over backwards for unions and what do they do, they go support the Rs who hate them. What do you do with that?

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Let’s also note that Trump is more pro choice than Joe Biden . Joe Biden once voted to allow states to overturn Roe v Wade.

Bet you never heard that on CNN

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/us/politics/biden-abortion-rights.html