Anybody following the Karen Read trial in Boston?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

I am someone who, if I were on the jury, would likely vote to acquit. I do think it's plausible. I don't think the evidence is sufficient to meet the Commonwealth's burden, though, which is a lot more than "plausible."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

It is the ONLY plausible explanation.

The Free Karen Read followers have been duped and led down a garden path by Karen and her tool Aiden Kearney aka Turtleboy, an online blogger who disseminated her third party culprit conspiracy theory that John went into the house, was immediately set upon by the residents therein, beaten to death, attacked by a DNA-less dog, and thrown out on the lawn to die.

The house was full of young adults celebrating the homeowner's son's 21st birthday as well as the close friends and some a coworkers of John's from the Boston PD who he knew but not well.

The defense theory is that all of those people are covering up a murder, and also the Canton PD, and also the MSP, and also the ME, and also the other ME who specializes in brain injury, and also the ER doctor who warmed John up and then declared him dead (because you're not dead until you're warm and dead), and also John's family is in on it, and also the EMTs, paramedics, firefighters, and the prosecutor's office AND the judge.

Mostly this is all true because the MSP trooper heading the investigation called Karen a 'whack job c*nt' in private text messages to his family and friends while he was investigating the case. Never mind that her behavior from the early morning hours when she killed John to this very moment have revealed that the trooper was a very discerning judge of character re: Karen Read.

It's all INSANE. She is a guilty as sin binge drunk driver who plowed over her boyfriend in a rage. ALL of the actual, admissible physical, testimonial, circumstantial evidence points squarely at Karen Read. There is no actual admissible evidence whatsoever that backs the defense's sick theories, which are ever changing because they are pure fabrications.

Beyond the disgustingness of Karen's defense team's sleazy tactics, there is a whole INDUSTRY of YouTube and other social media content creators who are monetizing the obsession with the case that FKR have, and who have stoked actual physical and verbal harassment of witnesses, court personnel, prosecutors, police, victim's friends and family, etc. from among the FKR followers.

Unfreakingbelievable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

It is the ONLY plausible explanation.

The Free Karen Read followers have been duped and led down a garden path by Karen and her tool Aiden Kearney aka Turtleboy, an online blogger who disseminated her third party culprit conspiracy theory that John went into the house, was immediately set upon by the residents therein, beaten to death, attacked by a DNA-less dog, and thrown out on the lawn to die.

The house was full of young adults celebrating the homeowner's son's 21st birthday as well as the close friends and some a coworkers of John's from the Boston PD who he knew but not well.

The defense theory is that all of those people are covering up a murder, and also the Canton PD, and also the MSP, and also the ME, and also the other ME who specializes in brain injury, and also the ER doctor who warmed John up and then declared him dead (because you're not dead until you're warm and dead), and also John's family is in on it, and also the EMTs, paramedics, firefighters, and the prosecutor's office AND the judge.

Mostly this is all true because the MSP trooper heading the investigation called Karen a 'whack job c*nt' in private text messages to his family and friends while he was investigating the case. Never mind that her behavior from the early morning hours when she killed John to this very moment have revealed that the trooper was a very discerning judge of character re: Karen Read.

It's all INSANE. She is a guilty as sin binge drunk driver who plowed over her boyfriend in a rage. ALL of the actual, admissible physical, testimonial, circumstantial evidence points squarely at Karen Read. There is no actual admissible evidence whatsoever that backs the defense's sick theories, which are ever changing because they are pure fabrications.

Beyond the disgustingness of Karen's defense team's sleazy tactics, there is a whole INDUSTRY of YouTube and other social media content creators who are monetizing the obsession with the case that FKR have, and who have stoked actual physical and verbal harassment of witnesses, court personnel, prosecutors, police, victim's friends and family, etc. from among the FKR followers.

Unfreakingbelievable.

Brian Albert was turning 23 that year. If you can’t even get basic facts right, no one is believing the rest of hysterical screeds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

"Turtle boy", a MA blogger, did bunch of conspiracy theory pieces on the case and people ate it up. The whole thing is insanely nuts and even if his theory was true, it would still be very lucky for them that she just to happened to have broken her tail ling that night and the one to find him in the snow at 6am and made it easy for them to pin it on her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

Phone records show that John O’Keefe was walking around with his phone, turning it on by facial recognition, and turning it off with the lock button for roughly two full minutes after Karen Read had driven away. So, after she left, he was still standing and using his phone for two minutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This should be a slam dunk for the defense. They exposed that one of the key prosecution witnesses lied to the grand jury. The statie who was fired was the chief investigator. The FEDS seem fairly confident that she didn't do it. The made for tv movies are going to be insane here.

I think it deserves an actual high quality movie, with Affleck and Damon obviously but not sure who can play Karen Read.

Someone cute, petite and sexy.

Kristen Bell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

Phone records show that John O’Keefe was walking around with his phone, turning it on by facial recognition, and turning it off with the lock button for roughly two full minutes after Karen Read had driven away. So, after she left, he was still standing and using his phone for two minutes.

That’s interesting. What is the explanation for this?

[Anonymous]

“Only plausible explanation” is not how we adjudicate in this country. “Beyond a reasonable doubt” is a higher burden, even than the civil court’s burden of “preponderance of the evidence.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be a slam dunk for the defense. They exposed that one of the key prosecution witnesses lied to the grand jury. The statie who was fired was the chief investigator. The FEDS seem fairly confident that she didn't do it. The made for tv movies are going to be insane here.

I think it deserves an actual high quality movie, with Affleck and Damon obviously but not sure who can play Karen Read.

Someone cute, petite and sexy.

Kristen Bell

Oh yes, and she actually would be perfect for this! A dramatic, serious role for her too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

Phone records show that John O’Keefe was walking around with his phone, turning it on by facial recognition, and turning it off with the lock button for roughly two full minutes after Karen Read had driven away. So, after she left, he was still standing and using his phone for two minutes.

That’s interesting. What is the explanation for this?

The commonwealth's witnesses haven't given a clear answer on that one yet. IIRC, the fact that John unlocked his phone w/ his face came out between Trial 1 and Trial 2.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The minute, I heard that the cop stayed in his house while the person dying on his front lawn and refused to go outside to help. I knew they were guilty.

I have a household of law-enforcement officers and believe me, dude is guilty AF

He was already dead. Killed eight hours earlier by Karen

So if you looked outside and saw a dead body on your lawn, and police outside, you’d…stay in your house? No.
That’s guilt.

Yes, I'd stay inside and wouldn't contaminate a scene, that is already in my front yard.

+10000 the amount of stupidity on this thread. My god.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

Phone records show that John O’Keefe was walking around with his phone, turning it on by facial recognition, and turning it off with the lock button for roughly two full minutes after Karen Read had driven away. So, after she left, he was still standing and using his phone for two minutes.

No, that's NOT what cellbrite testified to. Stop putting lies out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I’m late to this case. What is the main reason for doubting that Karen Read ran over him with her car? Seems like she may not have done it intentionally, but why is it not a plausible explanation?

It is the ONLY plausible explanation.

The Free Karen Read followers have been duped and led down a garden path by Karen and her tool Aiden Kearney aka Turtleboy, an online blogger who disseminated her third party culprit conspiracy theory that John went into the house, was immediately set upon by the residents therein, beaten to death, attacked by a DNA-less dog, and thrown out on the lawn to die.

The house was full of young adults celebrating the homeowner's son's 21st birthday as well as the close friends and some a coworkers of John's from the Boston PD who he knew but not well.

The defense theory is that all of those people are covering up a murder, and also the Canton PD, and also the MSP, and also the ME, and also the other ME who specializes in brain injury, and also the ER doctor who warmed John up and then declared him dead (because you're not dead until you're warm and dead), and also John's family is in on it, and also the EMTs, paramedics, firefighters, and the prosecutor's office AND the judge.

Mostly this is all true because the MSP trooper heading the investigation called Karen a 'whack job c*nt' in private text messages to his family and friends while he was investigating the case. Never mind that her behavior from the early morning hours when she killed John to this very moment have revealed that the trooper was a very discerning judge of character re: Karen Read.

It's all INSANE. She is a guilty as sin binge drunk driver who plowed over her boyfriend in a rage. ALL of the actual, admissible physical, testimonial, circumstantial evidence points squarely at Karen Read. There is no actual admissible evidence whatsoever that backs the defense's sick theories, which are ever changing because they are pure fabrications.

Beyond the disgustingness of Karen's defense team's sleazy tactics, there is a whole INDUSTRY of YouTube and other social media content creators who are monetizing the obsession with the case that FKR have, and who have stoked actual physical and verbal harassment of witnesses, court personnel, prosecutors, police, victim's friends and family, etc. from among the FKR followers.

Unfreakingbelievable.

It is insane. There is no freaking motive either!!!

You can't reason with stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The minute, I heard that the cop stayed in his house while the person dying on his front lawn and refused to go outside to help. I knew they were guilty.

I have a household of law-enforcement officers and believe me, dude is guilty AF

He was already dead. Killed eight hours earlier by Karen

So if you looked outside and saw a dead body on your lawn, and police outside, you’d…stay in your house? No.
That’s guilt.

I agree. A lone random fire truck or ambulance goes down our street and within 10 minutes there are 30 neighbors outside to see what's going on. There is literally no scenario where there is police/EMS activity ON MY FRONT LAWN and I don't go outside.

Its clear from insane posts like this people are running their mouths yet not actually following the case. THEY WERE ASLEEP ALL OF THEM IN THE HOUSE SOUND ASLEEP WOKEN UP AS IT WAS HAPPENING.

No not when it supposedly happened. When the police showed up. It was morning, Albert saw the scene outside. In what world wouldn’t you be alarmed about that?? It’s incredibly suspicious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The minute, I heard that the cop stayed in his house while the person dying on his front lawn and refused to go outside to help. I knew they were guilty.

I have a household of law-enforcement officers and believe me, dude is guilty AF

He was already dead. Killed eight hours earlier by Karen

So if you looked outside and saw a dead body on your lawn, and police outside, you’d…stay in your house? No.
That’s guilt.

Yes, I'd stay inside and wouldn't contaminate a scene, that is already in my front yard.

+10000 the amount of stupidity on this thread. My god.

Sorry but your nonstop insults aren’t convincing anyone. Even law enforcement said it was suspicious. I cannot imagine what kind of person wouldn’t go outside for a scene on their own property. Only a guilty one. Probably what the jury will think too.