We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

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Anonymous wrote:The shooters in Dupont today and yesterday on K st were not kids. They were grown men. Most likely with a record. This violence is not about poor hungry kids. It’s about mentally ill people and sociopaths emboldened by the lawlessness in this city.



Again, many people don't realize that the St. Elizabeth's mental asylum location was closed and they dumped a bunch of mentally I'll people on the street. Today that location is in full swing development for a basketball plaza. When you fail the broken in society this is what happens.


St. Elizabeth's was closed in 2006. This most recent crime spike started 2-3 years ago at most.


No, it did not. Part of the campus was developed but the hospital still operates. I know of someone there now. Hinckley was only released in 2016. Why are so many confused about this?

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-06-01/judge-grants-john-hinckley-unconditional-release-four-decades-after-shooting-reagan

https://dbh.dc.gov/page/saint-elizabeths-hospital
Anonymous
It's clear from the prices why governments opt for sidewalks or Housing First vouchers. Doing so saves $$$, but at a devastating cost to the individual and public safety.

https://dbh.dc.gov/page/saint-elizabeths-hospital
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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?


Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.


Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).



No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.


My god you sound ignorant as all hell. I have no bone in this fight as I am not from Singapore, but Singapore is very much a first world developed country. Hell in some ways the people there are, on average, richer than people here. The average per capita GDP in Singapore is around $88k, while the GDP per capita in the US is around $80k. So yeah not a 3rd world backwater country (and the correct term is developing, not 3rd world) , maybe go outside of your bubble and travel around?

As for me, I left because there are far more financial opportunities here than in my country. I could care less about equity and justice to be frank, and are not the reasons I moved here. Here I am making almost 200k. Where I am from, I'd be lucky if I was making 20k a year. Yeah many immigrants move here for the financial opportunities (it is after all the land of opportunity) but could care less about the whole argument on equity and systemic injustices. After all, many of us come from developing countries where one has few opportunities, so people here crying about injustices when they have all these opportunities just sounds hollow.

Last, I was not responding to the mental health problem (that is certainly an issue that has to be tackled humanely), I was responding more so to the general trend in the DMV area of increasing crime, and the dumb policies leading to that (such as defund police, equitable justice, etc)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The shooters in Dupont today and yesterday on K st were not kids. They were grown men. Most likely with a record. This violence is not about poor hungry kids. It’s about mentally ill people and sociopaths emboldened by the lawlessness in this city.



Again, many people don't realize that the St. Elizabeth's mental asylum location was closed and they dumped a bunch of mentally I'll people on the street. Today that location is in full swing development for a basketball plaza. When you fail the broken in society this is what happens.


St. Elizabeth's was closed in 2006. This most recent crime spike started 2-3 years ago at most.


Many mental asylums across the country have closed, services for the people living on the streets has dwindled. It's harder for the unhoused to feed and shelter themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?


Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.


Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).



No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.



"... back water 3rd world country like Singapore."

This genuinely might be the stupidest thing my eyes have ever encountered on the internet.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?


Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.


Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).



No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.


I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?


Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.


Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).



No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.


I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world.


A crappy Toyota Corolla in Singapore costs $120K because the government doesn’t want people to drive. If you give up freedom for security, you’ll pay for it everyday of your life.



The US gives citizens a wide degree of freedom.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?


Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.


Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).



No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.


I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world.


I don't care how safe it is, I don't want to live in a police state and have a lack of privacy. No thank you. Also Singapore probably has a smaller population than the US.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The shooters in Dupont today and yesterday on K st were not kids. They were grown men. Most likely with a record. This violence is not about poor hungry kids. It’s about mentally ill people and sociopaths emboldened by the lawlessness in this city.



Again, many people don't realize that the St. Elizabeth's mental asylum location was closed and they dumped a bunch of mentally I'll people on the street. Today that location is in full swing development for a basketball plaza. When you fail the broken in society this is what happens.


St. Elizabeth's was closed in 2006. This most recent crime spike started 2-3 years ago at most.


No, it did not. Part of the campus was developed but the hospital still operates. I know of someone there now. Hinckley was only released in 2016. Why are so many confused about this?

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-06-01/judge-grants-john-hinckley-unconditional-release-four-decades-after-shooting-reagan

https://dbh.dc.gov/page/saint-elizabeths-hospital


Even if we have enough 'beds' for all the people who really need to be treated, it's kind of moot. DC needs laws changed (Council are you there????) like CA has done to make involuntary holds easier to appropriately apply. I call 311 all the time for people in distress or ranting or threatening. If the mobile team gets to them in time (they are super slow and guess what? A homeless person can hop on a bus and make tracks in no time), the mobile team will just offer them support that the homeless person will refuse. Please keep calling stuff in--I think it's good to have a record of citizen reports-but the laws themselves need to change and our elected officials are the ones who need to do that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?


Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.


Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).



No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.


I am pretty sure you couldn’t find Singapore on a map and have no idea anything about the country. Surveillance by cctv is everywhere and crime is harshly punished. As a result citizens give up some freedoms but live in a society where they don’t have to worry about getting randomly robbed and assaulted, walking over human feces, getting harassed by mentally unstable people, getting carjacked by a 13 year old, etc.

In the United States the car theft rate is 287 per 100,000 while in Singapore it is 1 per 100,000. In DC it is 651 per 100,000.

Singapore is the third safest country in the world.


I don't care how safe it is, I don't want to live in a police state and have a lack of privacy. No thank you. Also Singapore probably has a smaller population than the US.


My friend is in SIngapore and loving it. Great food, nightlife, education, safety. You don't have to be as extreme as SIngapore to enjoy nice things. DC may well be Singapore's polar opposite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The shooters in Dupont today and yesterday on K st were not kids. They were grown men. Most likely with a record. This violence is not about poor hungry kids. It’s about mentally ill people and sociopaths emboldened by the lawlessness in this city.



Again, many people don't realize that the St. Elizabeth's mental asylum location was closed and they dumped a bunch of mentally I'll people on the street. Today that location is in full swing development for a basketball plaza. When you fail the broken in society this is what happens.


St. Elizabeth's was closed in 2006. This most recent crime spike started 2-3 years ago at most.


No, it did not. Part of the campus was developed but the hospital still operates. I know of someone there now. Hinckley was only released in 2016. Why are so many confused about this?

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-06-01/judge-grants-john-hinckley-unconditional-release-four-decades-after-shooting-reagan

https://dbh.dc.gov/page/saint-elizabeths-hospital


Even if we have enough 'beds' for all the people who really need to be treated, it's kind of moot. DC needs laws changed (Council are you there????) like CA has done to make involuntary holds easier to appropriately apply. I call 311 all the time for people in distress or ranting or threatening. If the mobile team gets to them in time (they are super slow and guess what? A homeless person can hop on a bus and make tracks in no time), the mobile team will just offer them support that the homeless person will refuse. Please keep calling stuff in--I think it's good to have a record of citizen reports-but the laws themselves need to change and our elected officials are the ones who need to do that.


If they can figure out how to ride a bus, then they aren't mentally ill. You are afraid of people who are just exercising their freedom of speech.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?


Things not earned have no value. When you work to earn your food you appreciate. When you work to pay your rent or mortgage you are invested in the neighborhood.


Exactly, as the other poster said Singapore has some draconian laws, but hey they work. They ensure that crime is low. And keep in mind that Singapore is a very very expensive country/city to live in and has its own problems with poverty, but those people don't turn to crime.

As an immigrant from a country where it's hard to make something of yourself, whenever I hear people here complain about the "injustice" and etc, I simply scoff at that. I am sorry, you) they were born in the US, which provides people with boundless opportunities. It is on them to make something of themselves. And even then, they have many programs to support (as you said, kids in many countries would dream of that), yet those people turn to crime and people keep complaining about "systemic injustices" . I am sorry at some point it is a them problem, and If they turn to crime (especially violent crime), I am sorry but the full force of the law should be brought down upon them (max punishment, keeping them in jail before their trials, etc).



No thanks, I don't want to live in a back water 3rd world country like Singapore. Max punishment is not going to work because crime will still happen, it just means more underground deals and dirtier politicians who you think are keeping you safe but are not. If your country was so awesome in justice, equity and fairness you would not have moved to America. Obviously, as the news pointed out, the man was having a mental health crisis. Apart of fairness is equity and a social net. Countries without such can expect to fail and have the illest in society disrupt their peace.



"... back water 3rd world country like Singapore."

This genuinely might be the stupidest thing my eyes have ever encountered on the internet.


+1. Certainly top 10.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The shooters in Dupont today and yesterday on K st were not kids. They were grown men. Most likely with a record. This violence is not about poor hungry kids. It’s about mentally ill people and sociopaths emboldened by the lawlessness in this city.



Again, many people don't realize that the St. Elizabeth's mental asylum location was closed and they dumped a bunch of mentally I'll people on the street. Today that location is in full swing development for a basketball plaza. When you fail the broken in society this is what happens.


St. Elizabeth's was closed in 2006. This most recent crime spike started 2-3 years ago at most.


Many mental asylums across the country have closed, services for the people living on the streets has dwindled. It's harder for the unhoused to feed and shelter themselves.


The majority of crimes are committed by people with roofs, look at crime blotters, which give an address.

The attempts to derail this thread are nuts.
Anonymous
Back to the point of the thread, this is what USAO Graves had to say about his job performance (67% of arrests not prosecuted, or prosecuting only one third of arrests including gun cases and felonies) just last night at Charles Allen's forum

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of the thread, this is what USAO Graves had to say about his job performance (67% of arrests not prosecuted, or prosecuting only one third of arrests including gun cases and felonies) just last night at Charles Allen's forum



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