FBI HQ in PG!

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Anonymous wrote:It's the best deal for taxpayers.

Twenty five million dollars? You feel that strongly about what amounts to a rounding error?

I'm pretty sure that if you asked taxpayers the question: "Do you think the government should choose a building option that would save taxpayers $40mil?", most people, especially conservatives would say yes.

Telling taxpayers that the government made a decision based on what a government employee, and one that was appointed at that, wanted rather than what was the best use of taxpayer money would not go over well.

I'm fairly certain that in a different scenario, if they had chosen MD over VA and the cost of building in MD was going to be more than double, lots of VA people would be up in arms over it.

If the process had worked out to select MD, then everyone, including Wray and the FBI, would be satisfied. Since the process appears rigged, they're not satisfied.

When people don't like the outcome, they complain about the process.

Senator Cardin from Maryland said it best: "We knew we were going to win. It was a fair process." Seriously, who writes his talking points? He essentially admitted that the process was rigged.

I would take that to mean he knew he had the best site.

Honestly these accusations of the process being “rigged” just sound like whining, and reversing the decision will look very, very bad. It would basically be saying “we’re just going to reverse this qualified black lady’s decision even though she clearly had the final say and laid everything out.” That’s not a good look. There’s no accusation of quid pro quo or anything that makes sense, and the GSA decision pretty clearly explains why it chose the site it chose. Reasonable people can obviously disagree on which site was best but there’s no “slam dunk” here proving that Springfield was better.

1 person making a decision of this magnitude is not good. Albert had a simplistic rating system from best to worst-blue, green, yellow. And some very subjective language in the written reports. Figure skating is more complex than FBI headquarters? Sorry to say but it's true. https://www.usfigureskating.org/about/scoring-system

You don’t know anything about government operations if you think one person ever gets to unilaterally make these types of decisions. The final memo itself was signed by Albert and the GSA General Counsel. They knew this was a controversial decision and I’m sure many, many people voiced their approval before this was signed by those two figureheads.

Further, the “three person panel” y’all are crying about ALSO used a blue-green-yellow rating system. But again, this isn’t about the “process,” it’s about an outcome you don’t like.

Sorry but as I posted figure skating scoring is more complex than this slop. The blue green yellow was astoundling simplistic. I could see back up stuff in Greenbelt but nothing of mission critical or operational. Greenbelt would also be a great site for the GSA furniture etc warehouses. As I posted the FBI will still have about 1000 in DC. The fact is there are wetlands in Greenbelt and buildable land is 1.5 less acres. It's the FBI not some anchor tenant for a mixed use development or mall.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the best deal for taxpayers.

Twenty five million dollars? You feel that strongly about what amounts to a rounding error?

I'm pretty sure that if you asked taxpayers the question: "Do you think the government should choose a building option that would save taxpayers $40mil?", most people, especially conservatives would say yes.

Telling taxpayers that the government made a decision based on what a government employee, and one that was appointed at that, wanted rather than what was the best use of taxpayer money would not go over well.

I'm fairly certain that in a different scenario, if they had chosen MD over VA and the cost of building in MD was going to be more than double, lots of VA people would be up in arms over it.

If the process had worked out to select MD, then everyone, including Wray and the FBI, would be satisfied. Since the process appears rigged, they're not satisfied.

When people don't like the outcome, they complain about the process.

Senator Cardin from Maryland said it best: "We knew we were going to win. It was a fair process." Seriously, who writes his talking points? He essentially admitted that the process was rigged.

I would take that to mean he knew he had the best site.

Honestly these accusations of the process being “rigged” just sound like whining, and reversing the decision will look very, very bad. It would basically be saying “we’re just going to reverse this qualified black lady’s decision even though she clearly had the final say and laid everything out.” That’s not a good look. There’s no accusation of quid pro quo or anything that makes sense, and the GSA decision pretty clearly explains why it chose the site it chose. Reasonable people can obviously disagree on which site was best but there’s no “slam dunk” here proving that Springfield was better.

1 person making a decision of this magnitude is not good. Albert had a simplistic rating system from best to worst-blue, green, yellow. And some very subjective language in the written reports. Figure skating is more complex than FBI headquarters? Sorry to say but it's true. https://www.usfigureskating.org/about/scoring-system

You don’t know anything about government operations if you think one person ever gets to unilaterally make these types of decisions. The final memo itself was signed by Albert and the GSA General Counsel. They knew this was a controversial decision and I’m sure many, many people voiced their approval before this was signed by those two figureheads.

Further, the “three person panel” y’all are crying about ALSO used a blue-green-yellow rating system. But again, this isn’t about the “process,” it’s about an outcome you don’t like.

Sorry but as I posted figure skating scoring is more complex than this slop. The blue green yellow was astoundling simplistic. I could see back up stuff in Greenbelt but nothing of mission critical or operational. Greenbelt would also be a great site for the GSA furniture etc warehouses. As I posted the FBI will still have about 1000 in DC. The fact is there are wetlands in Greenbelt and buildable land is 1.5 less acres. It's the FBI not some anchor tenant for a mixed use development or mall.

I haven’t read anything about the build able land. It seems unlikely that the land directly adjacent to a metro stop would be unbuildable wetland.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the best deal for taxpayers.

Twenty five million dollars? You feel that strongly about what amounts to a rounding error?

I'm pretty sure that if you asked taxpayers the question: "Do you think the government should choose a building option that would save taxpayers $40mil?", most people, especially conservatives would say yes.

Telling taxpayers that the government made a decision based on what a government employee, and one that was appointed at that, wanted rather than what was the best use of taxpayer money would not go over well.

I'm fairly certain that in a different scenario, if they had chosen MD over VA and the cost of building in MD was going to be more than double, lots of VA people would be up in arms over it.

If the process had worked out to select MD, then everyone, including Wray and the FBI, would be satisfied. Since the process appears rigged, they're not satisfied.

When people don't like the outcome, they complain about the process.

Senator Cardin from Maryland said it best: "We knew we were going to win. It was a fair process." Seriously, who writes his talking points? He essentially admitted that the process was rigged.

I would take that to mean he knew he had the best site.

Honestly these accusations of the process being “rigged” just sound like whining, and reversing the decision will look very, very bad. It would basically be saying “we’re just going to reverse this qualified black lady’s decision even though she clearly had the final say and laid everything out.” That’s not a good look. There’s no accusation of quid pro quo or anything that makes sense, and the GSA decision pretty clearly explains why it chose the site it chose. Reasonable people can obviously disagree on which site was best but there’s no “slam dunk” here proving that Springfield was better.

1 person making a decision of this magnitude is not good. Albert had a simplistic rating system from best to worst-blue, green, yellow. And some very subjective language in the written reports. Figure skating is more complex than FBI headquarters? Sorry to say but it's true. https://www.usfigureskating.org/about/scoring-system

You don’t know anything about government operations if you think one person ever gets to unilaterally make these types of decisions. The final memo itself was signed by Albert and the GSA General Counsel. They knew this was a controversial decision and I’m sure many, many people voiced their approval before this was signed by those two figureheads.

Further, the “three person panel” y’all are crying about ALSO used a blue-green-yellow rating system. But again, this isn’t about the “process,” it’s about an outcome you don’t like.

Sorry but as I posted figure skating scoring is more complex than this slop. The blue green yellow was astoundling simplistic. I could see back up stuff in Greenbelt but nothing of mission critical or operational. Greenbelt would also be a great site for the GSA furniture etc warehouses. As I posted the FBI will still have about 1000 in DC. The fact is there are wetlands in Greenbelt and buildable land is 1.5 less acres. It's the FBI not some anchor tenant for a mixed use development or mall.

I haven’t read anything about the build able land. It seems unlikely that the land directly adjacent to a metro stop would be unbuildable wetland.

You’d think land adjacent to a metro would be in demand but clearly something is wrong with the Greenbelt site for it to still be undeveloped. There has to be a reason why private developers don’t want it and the feds are the only potential buyers.

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The GSA is planning to unload the large property by Ward Circle and Glover Archibald Park. Interesting that that site could’ve met the FBI site criteria. Oh well. Too late for that.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the best deal for taxpayers.

Twenty five million dollars? You feel that strongly about what amounts to a rounding error?

I'm pretty sure that if you asked taxpayers the question: "Do you think the government should choose a building option that would save taxpayers $40mil?", most people, especially conservatives would say yes.

Telling taxpayers that the government made a decision based on what a government employee, and one that was appointed at that, wanted rather than what was the best use of taxpayer money would not go over well.

I'm fairly certain that in a different scenario, if they had chosen MD over VA and the cost of building in MD was going to be more than double, lots of VA people would be up in arms over it.

If the process had worked out to select MD, then everyone, including Wray and the FBI, would be satisfied. Since the process appears rigged, they're not satisfied.

When people don't like the outcome, they complain about the process.

Senator Cardin from Maryland said it best: "We knew we were going to win. It was a fair process." Seriously, who writes his talking points? He essentially admitted that the process was rigged.

I would take that to mean he knew he had the best site.

Honestly these accusations of the process being “rigged” just sound like whining, and reversing the decision will look very, very bad. It would basically be saying “we’re just going to reverse this qualified black lady’s decision even though she clearly had the final say and laid everything out.” That’s not a good look. There’s no accusation of quid pro quo or anything that makes sense, and the GSA decision pretty clearly explains why it chose the site it chose. Reasonable people can obviously disagree on which site was best but there’s no “slam dunk” here proving that Springfield was better.

1 person making a decision of this magnitude is not good. Albert had a simplistic rating system from best to worst-blue, green, yellow. And some very subjective language in the written reports. Figure skating is more complex than FBI headquarters? Sorry to say but it's true. https://www.usfigureskating.org/about/scoring-system

You don’t know anything about government operations if you think one person ever gets to unilaterally make these types of decisions. The final memo itself was signed by Albert and the GSA General Counsel. They knew this was a controversial decision and I’m sure many, many people voiced their approval before this was signed by those two figureheads.

Further, the “three person panel” y’all are crying about ALSO used a blue-green-yellow rating system. But again, this isn’t about the “process,” it’s about an outcome you don’t like.

Sorry but as I posted figure skating scoring is more complex than this slop. The blue green yellow was astoundling simplistic. I could see back up stuff in Greenbelt but nothing of mission critical or operational. Greenbelt would also be a great site for the GSA furniture etc warehouses. As I posted the FBI will still have about 1000 in DC. The fact is there are wetlands in Greenbelt and buildable land is 1.5 less acres. It's the FBI not some anchor tenant for a mixed use development or mall.

OMG please stop bringing up the fact that one site is 1.5 acres less than the other when these are 60+ acre sites. That is ridiculously petty.

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Anonymous wrote:The GSA is planning to unload the large property by Ward Circle and Glover Archibald Park. Interesting that that site could’ve met the FBI site criteria. Oh well. Too late for that.

That is only twelve acres and in no possible way could have met the FBI site criteria.

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Anonymous wrote:The GSA is planning to unload the large property by Ward Circle and Glover Archibald Park. Interesting that that site could’ve met the FBI site criteria. Oh well. Too late for that.

Another exciting opportunity for more dense mixed use development and urban vibrancy in Ward 3!!!

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Anonymous wrote:It's the best deal for taxpayers.

Twenty five million dollars? You feel that strongly about what amounts to a rounding error?

I'm pretty sure that if you asked taxpayers the question: "Do you think the government should choose a building option that would save taxpayers $40mil?", most people, especially conservatives would say yes.

Telling taxpayers that the government made a decision based on what a government employee, and one that was appointed at that, wanted rather than what was the best use of taxpayer money would not go over well.

I'm fairly certain that in a different scenario, if they had chosen MD over VA and the cost of building in MD was going to be more than double, lots of VA people would be up in arms over it.

If the process had worked out to select MD, then everyone, including Wray and the FBI, would be satisfied. Since the process appears rigged, they're not satisfied.

When people don't like the outcome, they complain about the process.

Senator Cardin from Maryland said it best: "We knew we were going to win. It was a fair process." Seriously, who writes his talking points? He essentially admitted that the process was rigged.

I would take that to mean he knew he had the best site.

Honestly these accusations of the process being “rigged” just sound like whining, and reversing the decision will look very, very bad. It would basically be saying “we’re just going to reverse this qualified black lady’s decision even though she clearly had the final say and laid everything out.” That’s not a good look. There’s no accusation of quid pro quo or anything that makes sense, and the GSA decision pretty clearly explains why it chose the site it chose. Reasonable people can obviously disagree on which site was best but there’s no “slam dunk” here proving that Springfield was better.

1 person making a decision of this magnitude is not good. Albert had a simplistic rating system from best to worst-blue, green, yellow. And some very subjective language in the written reports. Figure skating is more complex than FBI headquarters? Sorry to say but it's true. https://www.usfigureskating.org/about/scoring-system

You don’t know anything about government operations if you think one person ever gets to unilaterally make these types of decisions. The final memo itself was signed by Albert and the GSA General Counsel. They knew this was a controversial decision and I’m sure many, many people voiced their approval before this was signed by those two figureheads.

Further, the “three person panel” y’all are crying about ALSO used a blue-green-yellow rating system. But again, this isn’t about the “process,” it’s about an outcome you don’t like.

Sorry but as I posted figure skating scoring is more complex than this slop. The blue green yellow was astoundling simplistic. I could see back up stuff in Greenbelt but nothing of mission critical or operational. Greenbelt would also be a great site for the GSA furniture etc warehouses. As I posted the FBI will still have about 1000 in DC. The fact is there are wetlands in Greenbelt and buildable land is 1.5 less acres. It's the FBI not some anchor tenant for a mixed use development or mall.

I haven’t read anything about the build able land. It seems unlikely that the land directly adjacent to a metro stop would be unbuildable wetland.

You’d think land adjacent to a metro would be in demand but clearly something is wrong with the Greenbelt site for it to still be undeveloped. There has to be a reason why private developers don’t want it and the feds are the only potential buyers.

Are there any major corporations that have decided to locate their headquarters in PG County? MoCo, Arlington, Fairfax all have Fortune 500, even 100, corporate HQs. I can’t think of a single one in PG. The county is just not perceived by the private sector as a very desirable and competitive location. But it’s apparently “close enough for government work.”

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Anonymous wrote:It's the best deal for taxpayers.

Twenty five million dollars? You feel that strongly about what amounts to a rounding error?

I'm pretty sure that if you asked taxpayers the question: "Do you think the government should choose a building option that would save taxpayers $40mil?", most people, especially conservatives would say yes.

Telling taxpayers that the government made a decision based on what a government employee, and one that was appointed at that, wanted rather than what was the best use of taxpayer money would not go over well.

I'm fairly certain that in a different scenario, if they had chosen MD over VA and the cost of building in MD was going to be more than double, lots of VA people would be up in arms over it.

If the process had worked out to select MD, then everyone, including Wray and the FBI, would be satisfied. Since the process appears rigged, they're not satisfied.

When people don't like the outcome, they complain about the process.

Senator Cardin from Maryland said it best: "We knew we were going to win. It was a fair process." Seriously, who writes his talking points? He essentially admitted that the process was rigged.

I would take that to mean he knew he had the best site.

Honestly these accusations of the process being “rigged” just sound like whining, and reversing the decision will look very, very bad. It would basically be saying “we’re just going to reverse this qualified black lady’s decision even though she clearly had the final say and laid everything out.” That’s not a good look. There’s no accusation of quid pro quo or anything that makes sense, and the GSA decision pretty clearly explains why it chose the site it chose. Reasonable people can obviously disagree on which site was best but there’s no “slam dunk” here proving that Springfield was better.

1 person making a decision of this magnitude is not good. Albert had a simplistic rating system from best to worst-blue, green, yellow. And some very subjective language in the written reports. Figure skating is more complex than FBI headquarters? Sorry to say but it's true. https://www.usfigureskating.org/about/scoring-system

You don’t know anything about government operations if you think one person ever gets to unilaterally make these types of decisions. The final memo itself was signed by Albert and the GSA General Counsel. They knew this was a controversial decision and I’m sure many, many people voiced their approval before this was signed by those two figureheads.

Further, the “three person panel” y’all are crying about ALSO used a blue-green-yellow rating system. But again, this isn’t about the “process,” it’s about an outcome you don’t like.

Sorry but as I posted figure skating scoring is more complex than this slop. The blue green yellow was astoundling simplistic. I could see back up stuff in Greenbelt but nothing of mission critical or operational. Greenbelt would also be a great site for the GSA furniture etc warehouses. As I posted the FBI will still have about 1000 in DC. The fact is there are wetlands in Greenbelt and buildable land is 1.5 less acres. It's the FBI not some anchor tenant for a mixed use development or mall.

I haven’t read anything about the build able land. It seems unlikely that the land directly adjacent to a metro stop would be unbuildable wetland.

You’d think land adjacent to a metro would be in demand but clearly something is wrong with the Greenbelt site for it to still be undeveloped. There has to be a reason why private developers don’t want it and the feds are the only potential buyers.

Are there any major corporations that have decided to locate their headquarters in PG County? MoCo, Arlington, Fairfax all have Fortune 500, even 100, corporate HQs. I can’t think of a single one in PG. The county is just not perceived by the private sector as a very desirable and competitive location. But it’s apparently “close enough for government work.”

Government doesn't work the same way as corporate America. Different goals and objectives. Trump tried to run it that way, well, actually, he tried to run it like his own family business.

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PG is perceived as much less desirable than Fairfax County (schools, taxes, housing and other dimensions). As a result, fewer Agents will volunteer for promotion to HQ, a necessary step for career advancement; they'll stay where they are in the field, reducing the pool of applicants for advancement within the agency and, arguably, eliminating talent from management and executive roles. Further, the quality of the professional support staff will suffer. There has always been a qualitative difference in clerical and other support staff in downtown D.C. agencies and those in the NoVa suburbs, which draw from different applicant pools. PG is much more like downtown in terms of who will want to work there.

In this instance, what's expected to be good for the economy in PG is not in the larger national interest.

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Anonymous wrote:PG is perceived as much less desirable than Fairfax County (schools, taxes, housing and other dimensions). As a result, fewer Agents will volunteer for promotion to HQ, a necessary step for career advancement; they'll stay where they are in the field, reducing the pool of applicants for advancement within the agency and, arguably, eliminating talent from management and executive roles. Further, the quality of the professional support staff will suffer. There has always been a qualitative difference in clerical and other support staff in downtown D.C. agencies and those in the NoVa suburbs, which draw from different applicant pools. PG is much more like downtown in terms of who will want to work there.

In this instance, what's expected to be good for the economy in PG is not in the larger national interest.

What you described did not seem to happen w/ NASA, the Census Bureau, the National Center for Health Statistics, or the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.

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Anonymous wrote:PG is perceived as much less desirable than Fairfax County (schools, taxes, housing and other dimensions). As a result, fewer Agents will volunteer for promotion to HQ, a necessary step for career advancement; they'll stay where they are in the field, reducing the pool of applicants for advancement within the agency and, arguably, eliminating talent from management and executive roles. Further, the quality of the professional support staff will suffer. There has always been a qualitative difference in clerical and other support staff in downtown D.C. agencies and those in the NoVa suburbs, which draw from different applicant pools. PG is much more like downtown in terms of who will want to work there.

In this instance, what's expected to be good for the economy in PG is not in the larger national interest.

What you described did not seem to happen w/ NASA, the Census Bureau, the National Center for Health Statistics, or the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.

I mean, are you sure?

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This is great for UMCP interns . Isn’t it a big criminal Justice school ?
Greenbelt is right there

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Anonymous wrote:This is great for UMCP interns . Isn’t it a big criminal Justice school ?
Greenbelt is right there

I was thinking the same.

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Anonymous wrote:PG is perceived as much less desirable than Fairfax County (schools, taxes, housing and other dimensions). As a result, fewer Agents will volunteer for promotion to HQ, a necessary step for career advancement; they'll stay where they are in the field, reducing the pool of applicants for advancement within the agency and, arguably, eliminating talent from management and executive roles. Further, the quality of the professional support staff will suffer. There has always been a qualitative difference in clerical and other support staff in downtown D.C. agencies and those in the NoVa suburbs, which draw from different applicant pools. PG is much more like downtown in terms of who will want to work there.

In this instance, what's expected to be good for the economy in PG is not in the larger national interest.

What you described did not seem to happen w/ NASA, the Census Bureau, the National Center for Health Statistics, or the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.

I mean, are you sure?

dp, yea, I'm sure. Tons of highly educated people in MD. I know several highly educated people in MD working for those agencies.