Arlington "missing middle"

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

Cars parked on the street! Shocking! Where will it all end?!

[Anonymous]

People moving into tiny <1000 sq ft units generally don’t have two cars.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

Cars parked on the street! Shocking! Where will it all end?!

Our street doesn’t have any sidewalks, so yeah a bunch of cars on the street is dangerous for neighborhood kids and walkers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

Cars parked on the street! Shocking! Where will it all end?!

Our street doesn’t have any sidewalks, so yeah a bunch of cars on the street is dangerous for neighborhood kids and walkers.

That's a problem! Which should be solved by...building sidewalks. Would your neighbors support sidewalks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People moving into tiny <1000 sq ft units generally don’t have two cars.

That’s an interesting fact. Please provide your source. Lol. The size of the apartment determines whether you have two cars? Distance to metro/bus it is what determines how many cars. And newsflash, since it’s single family home neighborhoods a lot aren’t close to public transport.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

Cars parked on the street! Shocking! Where will it all end?!

Our street doesn’t have any sidewalks, so yeah a bunch of cars on the street is dangerous for neighborhood kids and walkers.

That's a problem! Which should be solved by...building sidewalks. Would your neighbors support sidewalks?

Yes, let’s have Arlington County continue to foot the bill for developers to make money. Just build a sidewalk! Just build a new school. Just replace the sewers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People moving into tiny <1000 sq ft units generally don’t have two cars.

That’s an interesting fact. Please provide your source. Lol. The size of the apartment determines whether you have two cars? Distance to metro/bus it is what determines how many cars. And newsflash, since it’s single family home neighborhoods a lot aren’t close to public transport.

Lots of neighborhoods in Arlington aren't close to bus routes? That's terrible!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

Cars parked on the street! Shocking! Where will it all end?!

Our street doesn’t have any sidewalks, so yeah a bunch of cars on the street is dangerous for neighborhood kids and walkers.

That's a problem! Which should be solved by...building sidewalks. Would your neighbors support sidewalks?

Yes, let’s have Arlington County continue to foot the bill for developers to make money. Just build a sidewalk! Just build a new school. Just replace the sewers.

Sounds like you don't want sidewalks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

Cars parked on the street! Shocking! Where will it all end?!

When you’ve ruine all of the neighborhoods and the roadways, I guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a limit on conversions to 2-4-6- plexes in the new regulations? A per year limit or per neighborhood association limit, or both? I've been told there is, but have not seen it anywhere in writing. Does anyone know or can link whether such limits exist?

There isn’t a limit. But heythatwould have been a great idea!

That’s incorrect. There’s a limit of 58 structures per year for five years, dispersed geographically. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

After five years there is no limit.

They asked if there is a limit on conversions to 2/4/6 plexs. There isn’t. There is a limit on the number of MMH per year, but if they are all 6 plexs that’s no problem!

Multifamily buildings still have to conform to setback/height restrictions. You can only fit so much on typical Arlington lots.

6000 square foot lot would get the mcmansion size building but it would be 6 units. Many would require 6 off street parking spots perhaps divided between 3 garages and 3 in driveway. 3/4 mile to metro? That lot for 6-8 units gets 3-4 off street spots. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/22/breaking-arlington-county-board-approves-missing-middle-zoning-changes/

"half a parking spot per unit as the minimum 3/4 of a mile from Metro rail and 1/2 mile from certain bus stops and one spot per unit outside of transit zones."

examples on ARL website - go to 134 of 146 to view 6 units on a 6000 square foot lot. 1 example is 6 parking spots and another 3 based on the transit proximity standard. Vehicles will be parked on the street. https://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1844&meta_id=217182

Don't know what the language certain bus stop means.

Wow. Those are tiny units. 400 sq ft?

If it isn’t any bigger than a McMansion and has off street parking then it seems fine. The county should do a better job of allocating space and funding for schools. But that’s a preexisting issue.

There isn’t enough off street parking. Everyone knows that each unit will have at least 2 cars, so 12 cars total. .5 a parking space is ridiculous. Resulting in 9 cars parked on the street.

I live in an Arlington neighborhood with missing middle housing and there is still plenty of parking. In fact, it’s the SFHs that have the most vehicles on the street. Did you know that zoning only requires one off-street parking space for SFHs even though those housing types will likely have two or more cars? Where’s the outrage about that?

[Anonymous]

Density is bad for schools. The highest performing school districts in the US are all in the suburbs, and are sprawling.