UMD College Park Results thread

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My Stepson got admitted to Carillon community. GPA 3.98 and Weightd GPA 4.64. SAT Score 1480. Six AP classes. MD Public school. Asian

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Anonymous wrote:I will not be recruiting from UMDCP anymore. My son with 9APs, all others are honors and legacy did not get in.

UMD does not take legacy into account. Not sure why people keep stating this as a criteria for admittance. What were your son's grades? ECs? Did he write a good essay? Did he get a good teacher recommendation?

Did your son have legacy status mentioned in his denial letter?
It was in my student's denial letter. That actually made me more pissed off - they acknowledge that the student is a legacy and then deny admission to a highly qualified student. Luckily my student didn't want to go there but being a UMD family we wanted our child to apply. And luckily other great colleges are happy to have our student.

I didn’t know legacy mattered much at all for public’s.

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Anonymous wrote:How can I learn more about the Carrilon communities?

Go to the UMD website for Carrilon communities. Google "Carrilon communities UMD reddit" and see what students have said about them.

Thanks. Appreciate the Reddit approach. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:PS - Have your child submit their preference list for honors community even if they aren't sure they will attend UMD. Same for reserving a housing slot.

Thank you for the info! Love the nane HoHum.

So, once they select honors community, do they also need to select housing, or does the housing go with the honors community.

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I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Actually, I don't think magnet sent a profile this year. Counselors highlighted "magnet" on the transcript, but I don't think they sent a separate profile. Ostrander sent a profile and letter out to everyone in the program so they can include it. At least that's our take. DD has been adding content from that pdf in tge additional notes section on the common app.

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Anonymous wrote:PS - Have your child submit their preference list for honors community even if they aren't sure they will attend UMD. Same for reserving a housing slot.

Thank you for the info! Love the nane HoHum.

So, once they select honors community, do they also need to select housing, or does the housing go with the honors community.

Housing goes along with the honors community.

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Going to UMD even 10 years ago was considered a financial compromise for Montgomery County kids.

Impressive how far the school has come in the past 20 years academically, even if its ranking is still so-so.

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Anonymous wrote:My Stepson got admitted to Carillon community. GPA 3.98 and Weightd GPA 4.64. SAT Score 1480. Six AP classes. MD Public school. Asian

Congratulations!

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Anonymous wrote:Going to UMD even 10 years ago was considered a financial compromise for Montgomery County kids.

Impressive how far the school has come in the past 20 years academically, even if its ranking is still so-so.

This same story is playing out all across the country. I went to a B rated state univ out west, but now apparently, even that univ is harder to get into now. People I know who went to Cal or UCLA wouldn't be able to get in today with their stats.

There are just many many more kids who are applying to colleges now. IMO, bachelor degree is becoming almost useless now. A masters is what a bachelors degree was 30 years ago.

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Does anybody know what is the lowest SAT to include with application before deciding to do test optional?

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Anonymous wrote:Going to UMD even 10 years ago was considered a financial compromise for Montgomery County kids.

Impressive how far the school has come in the past 20 years academically, even if its ranking is still so-so.

wot?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Actually, I don't think magnet sent a profile this year. Counselors highlighted "magnet" on the transcript, but I don't think they sent a separate profile. Ostrander sent a profile and letter out to everyone in the program so they can include it. At least that's our take. DD has been adding content from that pdf in tge additional notes section on the common app.

I wonder why they are no longer doing this. IMO the profile really helps an accomm to understand the level of rigor required by the program. It also helps the school evaluate the individual magnet student vis a vis their peers. Getting straight As in MCPS is easier than it used to be but a relatively small number of magnet students achieve this (relatively speaking). I think the magnet profile is very informative.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Actually, I don't think magnet sent a profile this year. Counselors highlighted "magnet" on the transcript, but I don't think they sent a separate profile. Ostrander sent a profile and letter out to everyone in the program so they can include it. At least that's our take. DD has been adding content from that pdf in tge additional notes section on the common app.

Not everyone from CAP magnet gets in. I know a few who have been denied.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Actually, I don't think magnet sent a profile this year. Counselors highlighted "magnet" on the transcript, but I don't think they sent a separate profile. Ostrander sent a profile and letter out to everyone in the program so they can include it. At least that's our take. DD has been adding content from that pdf in tge additional notes section on the common app.

I wonder why they are no longer doing this. IMO the profile really helps an accomm to understand the level of rigor required by the program. It also helps the school evaluate the individual magnet student vis a vis their peers. Getting straight As in MCPS is easier than it used to be but a relatively small number of magnet students achieve this (relatively speaking). I think the magnet profile is very informative.

PP here. Agreed. I think the onus of including it this year was on the students. Ostrander sent pdfs for the profile and letter out. I think in previous years counselors sent it, but I'm pretty sure my kid checked, and the only thing the counselor did was highlight the "magnet" designation on the transcript. The pdfs came after EA cutoffs, but DD add info later, and UMF knows this program will, so not a big deal. We selected info from the profile to include on other apps in the "add'l info" section (or whatever it's called). I believe Ostrander advised this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Actually, I don't think magnet sent a profile this year. Counselors highlighted "magnet" on the transcript, but I don't think they sent a separate profile. Ostrander sent a profile and letter out to everyone in the program so they can include it. At least that's our take. DD has been adding content from that pdf in tge additional notes section on the common app.

Not everyone from CAP magnet gets in. I know a few who have been denied.

Magnet meant SMACS. that program at Blair is usually called "Magnet" whereas CAP is called "CAP." I don't know what CAP has in the way of a profile or if anything is sent out.