Youngkin and TJ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.

Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.

Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.

Many of the FARMS kids come from families who have worked even harder.

[Anonymous]

Just leave Fairfax county if you don’t like it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just leave Fairfax county if you don’t like it

Or we can change it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu is already too busy putting an end to CRT which was never taught in any school or sick with covid because they refuse to wear masks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu is already too busy putting an end to CRT which was never taught in any school or sick with covid because they refuse to wear masks.

Take your word salad to the politics forum, please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu is already too busy putting an end to CRT which was never taught in any school or sick with covid because they refuse to wear masks.

Shouldn't take too long to put an end to it if it isn't being taught. Problem solved. And if they get Covid infections out of the way now, they will have the next 3yrs and 11mo. to work hard, so don't really see a problem there either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

Agree. Youngkin Dept of Edu should just eliminate the questions. No confusion then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu is already too busy putting an end to CRT which was never taught in any school or sick with covid because they refuse to wear masks.

Shouldn't take too long to put an end to it if it isn't being taught. Problem solved. And if they get Covid infections out of the way now, they will have the next 3yrs and 11mo. to work hard, so don't really see a problem there either.

Never was taught in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.

Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.

Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu is already too busy putting an end to CRT which was never taught in any school or sick with covid because they refuse to wear masks.

So true!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.

You really think people would knowingly do that? I just can’t imagine many parents doing that. So obviously unethical.

Even if it’s a small handful of people doing it, the process is corrupted. I know of one child at Carson (not low income by any measure) whose mom checked yes on the grounds that if you read the questions literally, you should absolutely check yes.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu should ask some very hard questions of the TJ admissions office.

The Youngkin Dept of Edu is already too busy putting an end to CRT which was never taught in any school or sick with covid because they refuse to wear masks.

So true!

Most of them are protecting their own families though. Will even send their kids to private schools across state lines like Georgetown Prep, if necessary.