Youngkin and TJ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In reference to cram schools- the ones in the states are like babysitting.

My country cram schools are all the time. Kids don’t get home until 11pm.

Americans have no idea how easy they have it here.

True, and they don't understand that some of us highly prioritize education, so much so that even poor members of our community will send their kids to these extra schools. It makes their arguments laughable.

+ 1. And they completely ignore the white kids waking up at 4AM EVERY DAY to practice on swim teams or long weekends of practice for soccer or other sports. Most of these kids are started off on these endeavors before they actually express an opinion on whether or not they like it. By the time they get there, it's their reality and they learn to just deal with it. Why are cram schools any different? Because it's not a White/Black "approved" activity? F**k off!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Important. There is a reason that the second-gen Asian parents in NoVa by and large do not send their kids to cram schools.

While not a cram school, every other Chinese I know has their kids in Chinese school on weekends, and all taking above grade level math while there.

Did those parents grow up in America? Because if they did, that would surprise me.

"I trust in America's ability to infiltrate peoples' minds with anti-intellectual propaganda!"

[Anonymous]

It appears that Paragraph 10 of Governor Youngkin's Executive Order, along with the accompanying definition of "inherently divisive concepts" may provide the Virginia Department of Education under Youngkin with a hook to demand that Fairfax County rescind the TJ admissions policy adopted in the fall of 2020 if it wishes to remain designated as a Governor's School.

Ironically, it would be based on the notion that the order should be read with "adverse effects" on Asian students, and not merely "adverse intent," in mind, although given the texts and emails that have emerged one could argue that FCPS's actual intent was to discriminate against Asian students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In reference to cram schools- the ones in the states are like babysitting.

My country cram schools are all the time. Kids don’t get home until 11pm.

Americans have no idea how easy they have it here.

True, and they don't understand that some of us highly prioritize education, so much so that even poor members of our community will send their kids to these extra schools. It makes their arguments laughable.

+ 1. And they completely ignore the white kids waking up at 4AM EVERY DAY to practice on swim teams or long weekends of practice for soccer or other sports. Most of these kids are started off on these endeavors before they actually express an opinion on whether or not they like it. By the time they get there, it's their reality and they learn to just deal with it. Why are cram schools any different? Because it's not a White/Black "approved" activity? F**k off!

I think your beef is the fact that it’s not a TJ prioritized activity, not a “White/Black
approved activity”.
Don’t even worry about it. Your kids don’t need TJ. Youngkin either, he hasn’t sent not one of his 4 kids to TJ or even Langley which is the school they are zoned for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In reference to cram schools- the ones in the states are like babysitting.

My country cram schools are all the time. Kids don’t get home until 11pm.

Americans have no idea how easy they have it here.

True, and they don't understand that some of us highly prioritize education, so much so that even poor members of our community will send their kids to these extra schools. It makes their arguments laughable.

+ 1. And they completely ignore the white kids waking up at 4AM EVERY DAY to practice on swim teams or long weekends of practice for soccer or other sports. Most of these kids are started off on these endeavors before they actually express an opinion on whether or not they like it. By the time they get there, it's their reality and they learn to just deal with it. Why are cram schools any different? Because it's not a White/Black "approved" activity? F**k off!

I think your beef is the fact that it’s not a TJ prioritized activity, not a “White/Black
approved activity”.
Don’t even worry about it. Your kids don’t need TJ. Youngkin either, he hasn’t sent not one of his 4 kids to TJ or even Langley which is the school they are zoned for.

Do you think I care about sending my kids to TJ? It's the audacity of fools like you that think they know what's best for me. As the immigrant population of the US increases, one should normally expect the country to tilt left but yet, that's not what's happening. Ask yourself why.

Again, we don't need You (the lefties) but You needs us. Act like it. We will do well regardless of who's running the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In reference to cram schools- the ones in the states are like babysitting.

My country cram schools are all the time. Kids don’t get home until 11pm.

Americans have no idea how easy they have it here.

True, and they don't understand that some of us highly prioritize education, so much so that even poor members of our community will send their kids to these extra schools. It makes their arguments laughable.

+ 1. And they completely ignore the white kids waking up at 4AM EVERY DAY to practice on swim teams or long weekends of practice for soccer or other sports. Most of these kids are started off on these endeavors before they actually express an opinion on whether or not they like it. By the time they get there, it's their reality and they learn to just deal with it. Why are cram schools any different? Because it's not a White/Black "approved" activity? F**k off!

I think your beef is the fact that it’s not a TJ prioritized activity, not a “White/Black
approved activity”.
Don’t even worry about it. Your kids don’t need TJ. Youngkin either, he hasn’t sent not one of his 4 kids to TJ or even Langley which is the school they are zoned for.

Do you think I care about sending my kids to TJ? It's the audacity of fools like you that think they know what's best for me. As the immigrant population of the US increases, one should normally expect the country to tilt left but yet, that's not what's happening. Ask yourself why.

Again, we don't need You (the lefties) but You needs us. Act like it. We will do well regardless of who's running the country.

Asian privilege lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In reference to cram schools- the ones in the states are like babysitting.

My country cram schools are all the time. Kids don’t get home until 11pm.

Americans have no idea how easy they have it here.

True, and they don't understand that some of us highly prioritize education, so much so that even poor members of our community will send their kids to these extra schools. It makes their arguments laughable.

+ 1. And they completely ignore the white kids waking up at 4AM EVERY DAY to practice on swim teams or long weekends of practice for soccer or other sports. Most of these kids are started off on these endeavors before they actually express an opinion on whether or not they like it. By the time they get there, it's their reality and they learn to just deal with it. Why are cram schools any different? Because it's not a White/Black "approved" activity? F**k off!

I think your beef is the fact that it’s not a TJ prioritized activity, not a “White/Black
approved activity”.
Don’t even worry about it. Your kids don’t need TJ. Youngkin either, he hasn’t sent not one of his 4 kids to TJ or even Langley which is the school they are zoned for.

Do you think I care about sending my kids to TJ? It's the audacity of fools like you that think they know what's best for me. As the immigrant population of the US increases, one should normally expect the country to tilt left but yet, that's not what's happening. Ask yourself why.

Again, we don't need You (the lefties) but You needs us. Act like it. We will do well regardless of who's running the country.

How do the “lefties” need you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In reference to cram schools- the ones in the states are like babysitting.

My country cram schools are all the time. Kids don’t get home until 11pm.

Americans have no idea how easy they have it here.

True, and they don't understand that some of us highly prioritize education, so much so that even poor members of our community will send their kids to these extra schools. It makes their arguments laughable.

+ 1. And they completely ignore the white kids waking up at 4AM EVERY DAY to practice on swim teams or long weekends of practice for soccer or other sports. Most of these kids are started off on these endeavors before they actually express an opinion on whether or not they like it. By the time they get there, it's their reality and they learn to just deal with it. Why are cram schools any different? Because it's not a White/Black "approved" activity? F**k off!

I think your beef is the fact that it’s not a TJ prioritized activity, not a “White/Black
approved activity”.
Don’t even worry about it. Your kids don’t need TJ. Youngkin either, he hasn’t sent not one of his 4 kids to TJ or even Langley which is the school they are zoned for.

Do you think I care about sending my kids to TJ? It's the audacity of fools like you that think they know what's best for me. As the immigrant population of the US increases, one should normally expect the country to tilt left but yet, that's not what's happening. Ask yourself why.

Again, we don't need You (the lefties) but You needs us. Act like it. We will do well regardless of who's running the country.

How do the “lefties” need you?

Votes. Duh! You're already losing the Hispanic vote. Fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has no information on anyone’s income. The State of Virginia is not sharing income tax returns with the TJ admissions office. They can’t use data from 2019-20 school year because it’s out of date and too many holes of people moving etc. they can’t just ask the middle school to “certify” the child as low income because that would be arbitrary.

The meals questions are appear to be the only data that they have to determine economically disadvantaged.

Question for those who think the meals questions are NOT the determining factor: what other data would FCPS use? How would they get that data in a reliable manner?

How do they report ED #s in general? They have data for 2020-21:
https://schoolquality.virginia.gov/divisions/fairfax-county-public-schools#desktopTabs-3

Any additional information on how FCPS is awarding the “Economically Disadvantaged” experience factor?

If what is being report on here is actually true (ie anyone can check yes and get the admissions bump), how can we get Youngkin’s secretary of education to weigh in? It seems like if FCPS is knowingly allowing this, it’s good grounds for stepping in and taking over the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has no information on anyone’s income. The State of Virginia is not sharing income tax returns with the TJ admissions office. They can’t use data from 2019-20 school year because it’s out of date and too many holes of people moving etc. they can’t just ask the middle school to “certify” the child as low income because that would be arbitrary.

The meals questions are appear to be the only data that they have to determine economically disadvantaged.

Question for those who think the meals questions are NOT the determining factor: what other data would FCPS use? How would they get that data in a reliable manner?

How do they report ED #s in general? They have data for 2020-21:
https://schoolquality.virginia.gov/divisions/fairfax-county-public-schools#desktopTabs-3

Any additional information on how FCPS is awarding the “Economically Disadvantaged” experience factor?

If what is being report on here is actually true (ie anyone can check yes and get the admissions bump), how can we get Youngkin’s secretary of education to weigh in? It seems like if FCPS is knowingly allowing this, it’s good grounds for stepping in and taking over the process.

Youngkin ought to start prosecuting people who lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has no information on anyone’s income. The State of Virginia is not sharing income tax returns with the TJ admissions office. They can’t use data from 2019-20 school year because it’s out of date and too many holes of people moving etc. they can’t just ask the middle school to “certify” the child as low income because that would be arbitrary.

The meals questions are appear to be the only data that they have to determine economically disadvantaged.

Question for those who think the meals questions are NOT the determining factor: what other data would FCPS use? How would they get that data in a reliable manner?

How do they report ED #s in general? They have data for 2020-21:
https://schoolquality.virginia.gov/divisions/fairfax-county-public-schools#desktopTabs-3

Any additional information on how FCPS is awarding the “Economically Disadvantaged” experience factor?

If what is being report on here is actually true (ie anyone can check yes and get the admissions bump), how can we get Youngkin’s secretary of education to weigh in? It seems like if FCPS is knowingly allowing this, it’s good grounds for stepping in and taking over the process.

These are the numbers of freshmen (Class of 2025) reported by VDOE as "Disadvantaged" for the 2021-22 school year, compared to the December 2021 enrollment as reported by FCPS:

Justice: 414 (65.7%)
Annandale: 388 (64.5%)
West Potomac: 358 (54.0%)
Falls Church: 348 (57.5%)
Herndon: 334 (49.3%)
Mount Vernon: 323 (62.5%)
Lewis: 274 (61.9%)
South Lakes: 252 (39.0%)
Edison: 245 (40.6%)
Centreville: 214 (33.0%)
Westfield: 202 (30.9%)
Fairfax 201 (35.0%)
Chantilly: 162 (22.2%)
South County: 159 (28.1%)
Hayfield: 157 (29.0%)
Lake Braddock: 137 (18.8%)
Marshall: 116 (22.3%)
TJHSST: 111 (20.8%)
Oakton: 93 (14.9%)
West Springfield: 92 (14.6%)
Woodson: 79 (13.9%)
Robinson: 75 (12.6%)
Madison: 70 (13.4%)
McLean: 64 (10.4%)
Langley: 16 (3.0%)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has no information on anyone’s income. The State of Virginia is not sharing income tax returns with the TJ admissions office. They can’t use data from 2019-20 school year because it’s out of date and too many holes of people moving etc. they can’t just ask the middle school to “certify” the child as low income because that would be arbitrary.

The meals questions are appear to be the only data that they have to determine economically disadvantaged.

Question for those who think the meals questions are NOT the determining factor: what other data would FCPS use? How would they get that data in a reliable manner?

How do they report ED #s in general? They have data for 2020-21:
https://schoolquality.virginia.gov/divisions/fairfax-county-public-schools#desktopTabs-3

Any additional information on how FCPS is awarding the “Economically Disadvantaged” experience factor?

If what is being report on here is actually true (ie anyone can check yes and get the admissions bump), how can we get Youngkin’s secretary of education to weigh in? It seems like if FCPS is knowingly allowing this, it’s good grounds for stepping in and taking over the process.

These are the numbers of freshmen (Class of 2025) reported by VDOE as "Disadvantaged" for the 2021-22 school year, compared to the December 2021 enrollment as reported by FCPS:

Justice: 414 (65.7%)
Annandale: 388 (64.5%)
West Potomac: 358 (54.0%)
Falls Church: 348 (57.5%)
Herndon: 334 (49.3%)
Mount Vernon: 323 (62.5%)
Lewis: 274 (61.9%)
South Lakes: 252 (39.0%)
Edison: 245 (40.6%)
Centreville: 214 (33.0%)
Westfield: 202 (30.9%)
Fairfax 201 (35.0%)
Chantilly: 162 (22.2%)
South County: 159 (28.1%)
Hayfield: 157 (29.0%)
Lake Braddock: 137 (18.8%)
Marshall: 116 (22.3%)
TJHSST: 111 (20.8%)
Oakton: 93 (14.9%)
West Springfield: 92 (14.6%)
Woodson: 79 (13.9%)
Robinson: 75 (12.6%)
Madison: 70 (13.4%)
McLean: 64 (10.4%)
Langley: 16 (3.0%)

What's the point of wasting our time to compare fake numbers?

[Anonymous]

The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.

Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.

The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.