FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

That's a weird bottom line insofar as FCPS is concerned.

FCPS is a single district, which means the wealthiest residents subsidize the schools that serve more low-income students on an ongoing basis. Furthermore, many operating and capital decisions made in FCPS benefit lower-rated schools if they are attracting or starting to have more students (the expansions of West Potomac and Justice, and the current renovation/expansion of Falls Church, are but three examples).

What you are positing might more accurately describe the situation in a state like New Jersey or New York, where there are far more town or borough-based school systems rather than county-wide systems. There, you might make a point to make sure to live in a particular town so you're only paying for schools that serve wealthy kids, and the poorer communities have fewer resources to fund their own, less attractive schools.

In general, wealthier residents in FCPS have long accepted that they are subsidizing the less fortunate in the county, and that their schools may end up unrenovated for years or with larger classroom sizes because resources are pooled and often flow to poorer schools. All they've asked for in return is that they not be overtly discriminated against or attacked, and that school boundaries only be adjusted when there are truly compelling reasons. It's unclear any such compelling reasons exist when FCPS is now projecting enrollment declines generally over the next five years and has only a few situations (in particular Coates and Parklawn ES) where there is or expected to be acute overcrowding.

Absolutely this. And when people push for more and more and more for these kids and then push for other people’s kids to be the country’s resource to move them to underperforming schools, all they’re going to do is drive professionals away from the democrats. This year, I voted red for the first time because of the boundary review (I know, National elections, but the Democratic Party sits idly by as the school board ruins the county). If they didn’t threaten my kids’ school situation, I likely wouldn’t have voted republican, but now I’m all in. Such is life.

You made this point a million times in this thread. Literally no one cares. At all.

Says the lady whose party is in the wilderness and leaderless. Enjoy everything you got coming to you these next four years 😉

Sure, the next four years will be interesting for sure.

But you know what else will happen during this time period - boundary adjustments! Hope your kid is moved first!

Enjoy! ☺️

As I’ve also said before, we’ve got a good alternative in place. Sorry that you won’t be able to reach my kids. I know that eats at you.

Sorry to disappoint but I literally could not care less.

😉 We know you are all in on messing with other people’s kids. I know you care quite deeply that my kids won’t be swept up in your agenda.

I’ll make sure to thank you when vouchers pass in the state. Not that I need them, but it’ll be a good FAFO result for the tone deaf school board and staff.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

+2. We moved to FCPS this past summer from a neighboring district (ACPS) where this is exactly what was happening, in the name of equity.

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This was our case, regarding schools. We stayed in our lower income neighborhood, but sent our kids to private school. We had the option of moving to a “better” district, with “better public schools” but, for us, this was the best option. Because we had enough money, we were able to make that choice.

If you belong to a high socio-economic level, you can probably make that trade-off as well, most likely be able to send your kids to a much better private than the one our kids attended.

Sadly, the FARMS kids will continue to suffer due to some of the parents’ choices in life, and how our society functions.

Our kids are now at the “lower ranked” high school, and are doing just fine.

Basically, money gives you choices.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

You have it wrong, the school board says all the schools are the same.

But in reality, the county pumps a ton of money into the poorer performing schools, so you are just misinformed.

Visit Langley and Oakton and then visit Lewis and MVHS. Which two look like they educate rich kids?

DP. Visit West Potomac and Edison and then visit McLean. Which one looks the most neglected?

I'm assume the schools with the auto collision, dental hygienist, emergency dispatcher, HVAC, and cosmetology class rooms are not targeting the county's wealthy children

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

When there is an urgent compelling need (eg, park lawn and Coates). Rather, the comprehensive review has ill defined conflicting criteria that is meant to allow the school board to do the equity boundary moves started five years ago with a thin veneer if it being for other purposes.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

In the case of WSHS, the next closest under capacity school is South County, not Lewis. SCHS is under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

In the case of WSHS, the next closest under capacity school is South County, not Lewis. SCHS is under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.

Lewis boundaries border WSHS and is further under capacity than South County. How much further under capacity does Lewis have to get before an adjustment is ok?

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

When there is an urgent compelling need (eg, park lawn and Coates). Rather, the comprehensive review has ill defined conflicting criteria that is meant to allow the school board to do the equity boundary moves started five years ago with a thin veneer if it being for other purposes.

WSHS is at 112% of capacity, Lewis is at 87%. Is that not enough of a disparity?

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

In the case of WSHS, the next closest under capacity school is South County, not Lewis. SCHS is under capacity by a similar percentage as Lewis.

Lewis boundaries border WSHS and is further under capacity than South County. How much further under capacity does Lewis have to get before an adjustment is ok?

South county also borders WSHS, and is closer.

The traffic patterns are better too.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

That comes to roughly 1 extra student per classroom at WSHS.
Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

When there is an urgent compelling need (eg, park lawn and Coates). Rather, the comprehensive review has ill defined conflicting criteria that is meant to allow the school board to do the equity boundary moves started five years ago with a thin veneer if it being for other purposes.

WSHS is at 112% of capacity, Lewis is at 87%. Is that not enough of a disparity?

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

When there is an urgent compelling need (eg, park lawn and Coates). Rather, the comprehensive review has ill defined conflicting criteria that is meant to allow the school board to do the equity boundary moves started five years ago with a thin veneer if it being for other purposes.

WSHS is at 112% of capacity, Lewis is at 87%. Is that not enough of a disparity?

That comes to roughly 1 extra student per regular classroom at WSHS, hardly an insurmountable capacity issue.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically if you have more money, you will move to a school district where more wealthy people live. Low income students will continue to rot in poorly rated schools. I didn’t grow up here, so the PUBLIC school system here seems to benefit high income families for the most part. I wish this system could be fixed in the future.

Isn't that the system everywhere? FCPS cannot fix kids' home life or socioeconomic status.

Sure, but doesn’t this system just perpetuate and reinforce the socioeconomic divide?

It's not the school system's role to fix this.

+1. At some point these SJWs need to realize that their advocacy to upset the apple cart is going to diminish the entire system and leave everyone, especially the kids they believe they are trying to help, worse off.

The neighborhoods effected by boundary changes will be infuriated. The rest of the county will not care. Do you think families in McLean really care about West Springfield's boundaries?

Yes, we do. Because we care about the integrity and quality of the FCPS system. I care about every area of the county that might see an equity redistricting. These moves are going to significantly diminish FCPS as a whole, but the sb echo chamber doesn’t seem to care.

When is changing boundaries between schools at or over capacity next to under capacity schools allowed? Are the boundaries just set in stone for all eternity?

When there is an urgent compelling need (eg, park lawn and Coates). Rather, the comprehensive review has ill defined conflicting criteria that is meant to allow the school board to do the equity boundary moves started five years ago with a thin veneer if it being for other purposes.

WSHS is at 112% of capacity, Lewis is at 87%. Is that not enough of a disparity?

It’s actually not. Not compelling at all.