Valor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes the guest players are players outside of Valor that we have never seen before and they disappear right after the tournament. Sometimes they are players from the Gold team to prop up the chances of winning. Else we will never win a game. Quite sad. Thank you for the comments on Valor being rec teams in better looking uniforms. Why are other clubs doing better? They have better coaches? better player selection? I am thinking of changing my son to another club but do not know which one is better.

The grass is actually greener when you look. Have your kid get ID with the other clubs first or second teams to get a sense on where he/she belongs. Get a feel for the practices and Coaches effort. Then you can decide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Valor advertising that they are hiring coaches. For next year or are some leaving midseason?

Assuming next year, haven't seen any posts on anyone leaving. GRF is falling apart, maybe they are trying to attract some coaches from there. I am glad they seem to be starting that process earlier this year.

Valor would be a step back for any GFR coach

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Valor advertising that they are hiring coaches. For next year or are some leaving midseason?

Assuming next year, haven't seen any posts on anyone leaving. GRF is falling apart, maybe they are trying to attract some coaches from there. I am glad they seem to be starting that process earlier this year.

False premise, GFR just fine and disgruntled coaches have alternatives closer to home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Valor advertising that they are hiring coaches. For next year or are some leaving midseason?

Assuming next year, haven't seen any posts on anyone leaving. GRF is falling apart, maybe they are trying to attract some coaches from there. I am glad they seem to be starting that process earlier this year.

False premise, GFR just fine and disgruntled coaches have alternatives closer to home.

Didnt that one coach go from GFR to Valor last year? Heard he was telling people that GFR was stealing money, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Valor advertising that they are hiring coaches. For next year or are some leaving midseason?

Assuming next year, haven't seen any posts on anyone leaving. GRF is falling apart, maybe they are trying to attract some coaches from there. I am glad they seem to be starting that process earlier this year.

False premise, GFR just fine and disgruntled coaches have alternatives closer to home.

Didnt that one coach go from GFR to Valor last year? Heard he was telling people that GFR was stealing money, etc.

I think that guy is alreadt gone from valor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Valor advertising that they are hiring coaches. For next year or are some leaving midseason?

Assuming next year, haven't seen any posts on anyone leaving. GRF is falling apart, maybe they are trying to attract some coaches from there. I am glad they seem to be starting that process earlier this year.

False premise, GFR just fine and disgruntled coaches have alternatives closer to home.

Didnt that one coach go from GFR to Valor last year? Heard he was telling people that GFR was stealing money, etc.

I think that guy is alreadt gone from valor

Nah he’s there. See him in their camp posts unless he just left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another thing with Valor Coach Rodolfo Castro is he uses Spanish when talking with the players. But not all kids speak or understand Spanish. Is this a common practice among soccer coaches? It also makes non-Spanish speaking players feel excluded and marginalized. I noticed that most of the time, he prioritize the Spanish speaking players to play and the other White kids just have to wait out on the benches during games. The less a player gets to play, the less skillful he becomes, which cause a downward spiral effect.

yeah that's so disrespectful I was so disappointed when I heard him speaking spanish to the team (AND cussing with horrible foul language), I kinda turned to the other parents to see if they'd understood and it's like everyone froze

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please please, cut these families from the club. Trim down to 2, maybe 3 teams per age group. Most of the gripes here are from the lower level teams based on the guest playing comments from RL players.

Stop the bleeding and let them all go. When my kid is asked to play down on the 2nd or 3rd team, they just want to play and help out a team short on players. Instead, they get the stink eye from adults. Go F yourself, in this instance my kid is better than yours. So what, little johnny did complain when he won that 1st play metal because my son scored 3 goals.

Do you not understand that guest playing is meant for kids to play "up"? Not down. No respectable club pulls a kid down for instance from an RL team to guest play on an NCSL team. Or a kid from a 1st team to guest play on a *3rd* team (!!!!). That's embarassing. Its just not done at any well run organization.

You describe it like its a common situation that happens at Valor all the time without even realizing how out of the soccer norm that is. That makes me think its extremely common at Valor, which is yet another ding in their (already shoddy) reputation.

that's literally what Valor does, not only it's a violation of NCSL rules but it's also so disrespectful to all the kids and parents that want to have a fair game

[Anonymous]

Someone a couple of pages back attested his/her club (not Valor) did the same thing and that it’s common practice among many other clubs. But those determined to hate Valor still posting as if this is a thing exclusive to Valor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone a couple of pages back attested his/her club (not Valor) did the same thing and that it’s common practice among many other clubs. But those determined to hate Valor still posting as if this is a thing exclusive to Valor.

Annnnnd a whole lot of other parents chimed in stating its NOT common at many other local clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone a couple of pages back attested his/her club (not Valor) did the same thing and that it’s common practice among many other clubs. But those determined to hate Valor still posting as if this is a thing exclusive to Valor.

Annnnnd a whole lot of other parents chimed in stating its NOT common at many other local clubs.

My dc played against top team players and then trained with them in HP Elite and other private academies. Then saw those same top team players guest playing for their clubs’ second team in tournaments. Yes it is common practice in other clubs. But believe what you want but don’t expect people not to call you out on spreading false narratives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone a couple of pages back attested his/her club (not Valor) did the same thing and that it’s common practice among many other clubs. But those determined to hate Valor still posting as if this is a thing exclusive to Valor.

I think they are referring one, maybe two kids, but not substituting the entire roster like 3-4 kids. If thats the case, it’s just obnoxious from other posts mentioning it happened during a tournament here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone a couple of pages back attested his/her club (not Valor) did the same thing and that it’s common practice among many other clubs. But those determined to hate Valor still posting as if this is a thing exclusive to Valor.

Annnnnd a whole lot of other parents chimed in stating its NOT common at many other local clubs.

My dc played against top team players and then trained with them in HP Elite and other private academies. Then saw those same top team players guest playing for their clubs’ second team in tournaments. Yes it is common practice in other clubs. But believe what you want but don’t expect people not to call you out on spreading false narratives.

Did he see them guest playing for the club's fourth team? Just wondering, b/c I think that is what Valor is doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are actually separate organizations. The people who run valor wanted to pay themselves without being beholden to anyone on the boards of rec sports organizations.
They do not get their own field permits, though, they steal space allotted to the SYA and CYA rec kids.

On paper they are separate but the COI's are nonstop. The admins for Valor are also admins for CYA and SYA. The turf fields, under the SYA/CYA banner are give the the clubs first and IF there is any space left, a Rec team may get a slot, otherwise, they are relegated to shitty grass fields.

The Director of Coaching at SYA is a Valor coach as well. There has been a big push within SYA to create an Academy program for the Rec kids who don't want to go to Valor but it has fallen on deaf ears.

As a result, several very well-liked coaches will be leaving Rec to form their own independent club teams through VISTA.

While CYA does allow their 11U and 12U kids to play NCSL-Rec (SFL), CYA does not forcing everyone to continue to play in the house league.

What are you going to do?? People move on and nothing changes and then everyone comes here to complain about the same issues that happen over and over.

It's a good business model for them because there are more wide-eyed parents every year to fill the slots and write the $3500 checks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are actually separate organizations. The people who run valor wanted to pay themselves without being beholden to anyone on the boards of rec sports organizations.
They do not get their own field permits, though, they steal space allotted to the SYA and CYA rec kids.

On paper they are separate but the COI's are nonstop. The admins for Valor are also admins for CYA and SYA. The turf fields, under the SYA/CYA banner are give the the clubs first and IF there is any space left, a Rec team may get a slot, otherwise, they are relegated to shitty grass fields.

The Director of Coaching at SYA is a Valor coach as well. There has been a big push within SYA to create an Academy program for the Rec kids who don't want to go to Valor but it has fallen on deaf ears.

As a result, several very well-liked coaches will be leaving Rec to form their own independent club teams through VISTA.

While CYA does allow their 11U and 12U kids to play NCSL-Rec (SFL), CYA does not forcing everyone to continue to play in the house league.

What are you going to do?? People move on and nothing changes and then everyone comes here to complain about the same issues that happen over and over.

It's a good business model for them because there are more wide-eyed parents every year to fill the slots and write the $3500 checks.

Wasn’t Valor trying to do some kind of Valor Lite thing at one point for like $1500? Did that ever take off? I guess not?