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Anonymous
Look at all the club's in Texas and California. There are two things that have the most status in terms of differentiating clubs from better to worst: Open Bids and total teams qualified. The fact that Metro has U12-U18 qualified, and three open bids is impressive. The fact that Paramount has U12-U18 qualified, with two open bids as well as their 15-2 team qualified, is super impressive. As far as I'm aware, I don't know of any of "2nd/"B'" from other clubs that ever qualify in the CHRVA Region. |
Anonymous
8-15 total teams = 1 open bid awarded 16-23 total teams = 2 open bids awarded 24+ total teams = 3 open bids awarded The total bids awarded is determined by the total teams that were registered at the time registration closed. The only exception is if the numbers drop by more than 1 threshold, then 1 bid is taken away (e.g., if there were 24+ teams registered at the close of registration, but only 15 total teams were still in the tournament by the 1st day of competition, then there would only be 2 bids awarded instead of 3). For the U14 Show Me division, there were only 14 total teams, so there was only 1 bid up for grabs. The two teams that finished 1st and 2nd already had bids, so the two teams that lost in the semifinals played for 3rd place (aka the final bid, as neither of these two teams had bids). MDJRS lost that 3rd place game, so the team they lost to got the final bid. Getting an Open Bid is insanely hard to do. |
Anonymous
Did Paramount 15-2 qualify this year? Paramount 14-2 qualified for 14 Freedom last year. https://www.instagram.com/p/C5yeGPfMe-2/ MVSA 15-2 (Wild) qualified for 15 Freedom last year. https://www.mvsavbc.org/news_article/show/1308289 |
Anonymous
Yes, paramount 15 Cruz qualified by finishing 3rd at regionals |
Anonymous
I don’t think anyone is trying to minimize Paramount’s impressive accomplishments. Their success is worthy of celebrating. I think the point being made is that the constant framing of those accomplishments as a comparison to other CHRVA clubs is a bit odd and unnecessary. Also, as others have noted, it is not unprecedented for CHRVA clubs’ 2nd teams to qualify for GJNC. Another one that comes to mind is Metro 18 North has gotten a bid a few times, although it’s been a few years since that happened (they did go to 18 Nationals in the no-bid required, pay-to-play Patriot division the last couple years) |
Anonymous
I’ve looked through Regionals results from the last 10 years and don’t recall a CHRVA club ever qualifying a 2nd/“B” team in back-to-back seasons. |
Anonymous
Ok. Seems plausible. So other CHRVA clubs have had teams other than their “1s” team get bids, but not in back-to-back seasons? Isn’t that the sort of very specific and narrow comparison to other CHRVA clubs that are being called out as sort of awkward? I just don’t get why there is a need for everything to be expressed in terms of CHRVA. |
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Anonymous
| This is what I had in mind when I started this thread: a place mostly for the beginners to learn about camps, clinics, leagues and other volleyball activities. The focus seems to have shifted toward bids and top clubs, pretty much the same way the discussion goes on other threads. May I suggest opening a different thread to exchange information about what teams got what bids? I think that thread would have a somewhat different audience. |
Anonymous
This thread went off those rails a while ago. I do think the title of the thread does not reflect your initial intent. If the thread was to discuss volleyball camps, clinics, and other training opportunities, it might be better to include that in the name. |
Anonymous
Paramount has to over promote to the point of cringe to help shield the fact that one of the coaches consistently gets wirrten up and on probation for throwing temper tantrums. |
Anonymous
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For complete beginners, U11 MOCO is good.
But do not go there if your daughter has a bit of volleyball experience. The coaches for the 2024/25 season were very inexperienced. Practices were not challenging. And the coaches did very little coaching during tournaments. Given the limited number of clubs offering U11 teams, I would suggest doing tryouts for U12 teams if your daughter is mature enough. There is more choice and most kids in U12 teams have some volleyball experience so the heterogenity in skill levels is typically lower within teams (U12-1, U12-2, …) |
Anonymous
Totally agree |
Anonymous
This applies to most average clubs, not only MOCO. You would expect that for-profit clubs would do a better job finding qualified coaches, but that's rarely the case, especially for the 2s and 3s teams. I would go even further with the recommendation: if you are offered positions on the first team in club A (lower level club) and a position on the 2s in club B (higher level club), your coaching will likely be better in club A than in club B. There are exceptions (you need to do your homework) and top clubs are not included in this recommendation. |
Anonymous
Yeah, this thread is totally worthless for anyone that is not SUPER SUPER DEEP IN THE WEEDS on volleyball. My kid plays on a team at the 14U level and wants to play on her HS team. All this "open bid" stuff is like total Greek to me. I've found the same thing with the soccer and even softball threads -- they all get taken over by the people who are obsessed with the sport and seem to be very focused on getting their kid to play at a top Div 1 school -- one would think that they have been places to communicate about this stuff that are more specific than a random DCUM thread. |