Weird marriage - guy 21, girl 15

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to call CPS.

This is illegal in PA. The 21 year old would/should be prosecuted for statutory rape and assault.

CPS will absolutely get involved if you report. And you should, before this girl ends up a young teen mom and her life ruined.

why her life would be ruined if she is a teen mom? May be that's all she always wanted. You would be surprised how common it is in hispanic community for girls to be close to 20 and have a baby.

Yea, no. I live in a predominantly Hispanic area with a lot of teen moms and their lives get pretty messed up. The men are usually abusive in some way, they get stuck in poverty and need government assistance for their entire lives.

Just because it’s common doesn’t mean it’s a good choice. Drinking and driving is common but it’s not a good choice.

[Anonymous]

Age of marriage is 15 in Kansas and Hawaii with parental and judicial approval.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States

A Nebraska man has a child with an underage girl and then married her in Kansas. He got convicted in Nebraska and went to prison.

journalstar.com/news/local/article_9d7bfa6a-14c8-11df-981e-001cc4c002e0.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
A Nebraska man has a child with an underage girl and then married her in Kansas. He got convicted in Nebraska and went to prison.

Matthew went to prison for 15 months. During that time, Crystal got pregnant by someone else.

https://journalstar.com/news/local/article_9d7bfa6a-14c8-11df-981e-001cc4c002e0.html

[Anonymous]

She shouldn't be married at 15 but that has nothing to do with being a teen mom as she can be a teen mom without marriage and spouse. An IUD is needed regardless of her marital status.

If she doesn’t want this marriage and was forced by husband or parents, this marriage can be annulled and she can emancipate and live independently with governmental help.

Is this untimely marriage due to religious belief in only marital sex, an accidental pregnancy or to get a free aid based college education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to call CPS.

This is illegal in PA. The 21 year old would/should be prosecuted for statutory rape and assault.

CPS will absolutely get involved if you report. And you should, before this girl ends up a young teen mom and her life ruined.

+1 you cannot convince me that a girl this young can knowingly consent to marriage. Fortunately, the law agrees with me and protects vulnerable kids. Like it or not, she has been trafficked. She cannot legally consent to marriage.
Let CPS assess the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to call CPS.

This is illegal in PA. The 21 year old would/should be prosecuted for statutory rape and assault.

CPS will absolutely get involved if you report. And you should, before this girl ends up a young teen mom and her life ruined.

why her life would be ruined if she is a teen mom? May be that's all she always wanted. You would be surprised how common it is in hispanic community for girls to be close to 20 and have a baby.

Having a baby at 15 is a recipe for vulnerability and future poverty.

Anyone claiming it would be dandy a man in his 20s to impregnate a 15 year old maybe needs their hard drive checked.

+1. Perfectly said.

[Anonymous]

a teen mom at such a young age is also going to be a bad picture for her kids and god forbid if she has daughters.

[Anonymous]

was this law different like 20-25 years ago and now changed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to call CPS.

This is illegal in PA. The 21 year old would/should be prosecuted for statutory rape and assault.

CPS will absolutely get involved if you report. And you should, before this girl ends up a young teen mom and her life ruined.

why her life would be ruined if she is a teen mom? May be that's all she always wanted. You would be surprised how common it is in hispanic community for girls to be close to 20 and have a baby.

Yep. It’s the lifestyle

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to call CPS.

This is illegal in PA. The 21 year old would/should be prosecuted for statutory rape and assault.

CPS will absolutely get involved if you report. And you should, before this girl ends up a young teen mom and her life ruined.

why her life would be ruined if she is a teen mom? May be that's all she always wanted. You would be surprised how common it is in hispanic community for girls to be close to 20 and have a baby.

Yea, no. I live in a predominantly Hispanic area with a lot of teen moms and their lives get pretty messed up. The men are usually abusive in some way, they get stuck in poverty and need government assistance for their entire lives.

Just because it’s common doesn’t mean it’s a good choice. Drinking and driving is common but it’s not a good choice.

How about some cultural sensitivity? /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No church, mosque, synagogue or temple would participate in an illegal marriage.

They actually do it all the time. Marriage is a religious ceremony before it’s a legal ceremony. You don’t have to actually file a marriage certificate. There are some that are religiously married but not legally. I’ve seen this with various demographics: Muslim and Hispanic immigrants, Hasidic Jews, Mormons and Amish.

[Anonymous]

I used to work as a case worker for multiple states on the east coast. Many of these girls/women pop out a bunch of kids and actually collect single mother benefits for all the kids despite being religiously married. Many of the women are trapped and find it difficult to escape their religious community because they have no education or money and the women in their circle discourage it and keep tabs on all the younger wives and their whereabouts. The youngest I saw was 13. Married to her rabbi. She escaped and divorced and ended up working as a social worker at our company. She was a lovely lady

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

How would you know if they’re academically inclined or not? Most of them are taught to become wives and mothers and nothing else. They’re discouraged from continuing school past 8th or 9th grade. In New York State, this was a particular problem with Hasidics and Yemeni immigrants. In Pennsylvania, it was an issue with Latinos and Amish. I’m sure not much has changed. Child marriage is legal in all 50 states if it’s due to religious reasons and not formalized in writing/certificate.

[Anonymous]

She was a full blown woman.

High five to the lucky groom

I bet they were illegals too

They can make a bunch of new Democrat voters.

The new master plan by you Progressives for a permanent political majority.