JMU 2040 plan draft

[Anonymous]

This is how I see the next 5-10 years...

1. UVA will continue to be UVA

2. WM will be the go to for smart kids who want a smaller liberal arts feel college experience

3. VT will be the top choice for STEM majors (obviously, also UVA)

4. JMU will be in a power 4 conference (plans are already underway) and will be the top choice for Health Sciences/Business (obviously also UVA); JMU is already rated top 25 for undergraduate teaching and knows its needs to build up its graduate programs and research which their plan for 2040 is addressing...

I don't understand why some of the VT crowd is so pressed over the idea of JMU making plans to improve its programming, other than needing to feel superior to JMU, so VT is clearly inferior to UVA.

Oh...and VT has cancelled every scheduled football match up after losing to JMU....but keep saying it is because of the ACC schedule changes for next year....

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is how I see the next 5-10 years...

1. UVA will continue to be UVA

2. WM will be the go to for smart kids who want a smaller liberal arts feel college experience

3. VT will be the top choice for STEM majors (obviously, also UVA)

4. JMU will be in a power 4 conference (plans are already underway) and will be the top choice for Health Sciences/Business (obviously also UVA); JMU is already rated top 25 for undergraduate teaching and knows its needs to build up its graduate programs and research which their plan for 2040 is addressing...

I don't understand why some of the VT crowd is so pressed over the idea of JMU making plans to improve its programming, other than needing to feel superior to JMU, so VT is clearly inferior to UVA.

Oh...and VT has cancelled every scheduled football match up after losing to JMU....but keep saying it is because of the ACC schedule changes for next year....

JMU over W&M (and even VT) for business is hilarious. Is their business program even ranked?

[Anonymous]

Hit submit too early. Once W&M adds direct admit to their business school in the next year, I think "top choice for business" is going to be permanently engraved as UVA/WM.

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Anonymous wrote:Hit submit too early. Once W&M adds direct admit to their business school in the next year, I think "top choice for business" is going to be permanently engraved as UVA/WM.

I actually didn't know that WM had a business school...interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Hit submit too early. Once W&M adds direct admit to their business school in the next year, I think "top choice for business" is going to be permanently engraved as UVA/WM.

I actually didn't know that WM had a business school...interesting.

The undergraduate program is top 20 🤷‍♂️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they want to compete with VT, they need to invest in their engineering program and eliminate some of the liberal arts requirements.

Genuine question: Why would it be smart for JMU to invest in a program (engineering) that's already strong at another institution in VA? Why not differentiate?

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Anonymous wrote:If they want to compete with VT, they need to invest in their engineering program and eliminate some of the liberal arts requirements.

Genuine question: Why would it be smart for JMU to invest in a program (engineering) that's already strong at another institution in VA? Why not differentiate?

Exactly. Engineering is VT’s thing, but the rest of their majors are nothing special.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

You can’t have it both ways. If you want to be a big boy, you’ll need to ramp up research and PhD production. As for football, I hope you like your FCS titles because you’ll never win one in the big leagues.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

There's a R1 VA school ranked #12 on that list that disproves that you can't have both undergrad excellence and higher PHD production/research.

[Anonymous]

You should all just be happy that we have an abundance of competitive public universities in our state.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

You can’t have it both ways. If you want to be a big boy, you’ll need to ramp up research and PhD production. As for football, I hope you like your FCS titles because you’ll never win one in the big leagues.

You can’t beat JMU. LOL! You know, the first VA school to make the CFP.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

There's a R1 VA school ranked #12 on that list that disproves that you can't have both undergrad excellence and higher PHD production/research.

VT can’t seem to manage that, though. They didn’t even make the list.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

There's a R1 VA school ranked #12 on that list that disproves that you can't have both undergrad excellence and higher PHD production/research.

VT can’t seem to manage that, though. They didn’t even make the list.

VT has never prioritized the undergraduate experience in my opinion

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

There's a R1 VA school ranked #12 on that list that disproves that you can't have both undergrad excellence and higher PHD production/research.

VT can’t seem to manage that, though. They didn’t even make the list.

VT has never prioritized the undergraduate experience in my opinion

Ouch. Okay then. I guess USWNR figured that out.