Abolish Boundary Maps Fairfax

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.
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Anonymous wrote:Schools have capacity constraints. If a school has now demand than capacity, how to determine who gets in?

If the answer is lottery (ie randomness), them you could have a scenario where some kid 45 minutes away gets in and another kid across the street from the school does not.

You would also have scenario where kids in the same neighborhoods couldn't go to school together.

If this lottery is held annually, than students could be subject to new schools every year.


You tank your top 3. Kids in the same neighborhood don’t have to go to the same school, but they can make the same requests.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D


and what happens when certain schools aren’t selected at all


With students mixed around the county there will be less “good” and “bad” schools so this won’t be an issue. Some people closer to the currently less popular schools will still request them because they’re close to home. Others will request them because they like the admissions boost from attending a lower SES school. With time, they will even out.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Schools have capacity constraints. If a school has now demand than capacity, how to determine who gets in?

If the answer is lottery (ie randomness), them you could have a scenario where some kid 45 minutes away gets in and another kid across the street from the school does not.

You would also have scenario where kids in the same neighborhoods couldn't go to school together.

If this lottery is held annually, than students could be subject to new schools every year.


You tank your top 3. Kids in the same neighborhood don’t have to go to the same school, but they can make the same requests.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D


and what happens when certain schools aren’t selected at all


With students mixed around the county there will be less “good” and “bad” schools so this won’t be an issue. Some people closer to the currently less popular schools will still request them because they’re close to home. Others will request them because they like the admissions boost from attending a lower SES school. With time, they will even out.


Ah, yes. You clearly have your pulse on what people believe and how they behave around here.

/s
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Schools have capacity constraints. If a school has now demand than capacity, how to determine who gets in?

If the answer is lottery (ie randomness), them you could have a scenario where some kid 45 minutes away gets in and another kid across the street from the school does not.

You would also have scenario where kids in the same neighborhoods couldn't go to school together.

If this lottery is held annually, than students could be subject to new schools every year.


You tank your top 3. Kids in the same neighborhood don’t have to go to the same school, but they can make the same requests.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D


and what happens when certain schools aren’t selected at all


With students mixed around the county there will be less “good” and “bad” schools so this won’t be an issue. Some people closer to the currently less popular schools will still request them because they’re close to home. Others will request them because they like the admissions boost from attending a lower SES school. With time, they will even out.


Ah, yes. You clearly have your pulse on what people believe and how they behave around here.

/s


I suspect I have a better understanding than you.
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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools have capacity constraints. If a school has now demand than capacity, how to determine who gets in?

If the answer is lottery (ie randomness), them you could have a scenario where some kid 45 minutes away gets in and another kid across the street from the school does not.

You would also have scenario where kids in the same neighborhoods couldn't go to school together.

If this lottery is held annually, than students could be subject to new schools every year.


You tank your top 3. Kids in the same neighborhood don’t have to go to the same school, but they can make the same requests.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D


and what happens when certain schools aren’t selected at all


With students mixed around the county there will be less “good” and “bad” schools so this won’t be an issue. Some people closer to the currently less popular schools will still request them because they’re close to home. Others will request them because they like the admissions boost from attending a lower SES school. With time, they will even out.


BS

Rich people won’t send their kids into a poor neighborhood and poor people will send theirs across town on two buses to get to a better neighborhood. The schools in the rich neighborhoods will end up overcrowded and the rich people will put up a stink.
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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?


Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools have capacity constraints. If a school has now demand than capacity, how to determine who gets in?

If the answer is lottery (ie randomness), them you could have a scenario where some kid 45 minutes away gets in and another kid across the street from the school does not.

You would also have scenario where kids in the same neighborhoods couldn't go to school together.

If this lottery is held annually, than students could be subject to new schools every year.


You tank your top 3. Kids in the same neighborhood don’t have to go to the same school, but they can make the same requests.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D


and what happens when certain schools aren’t selected at all


With students mixed around the county there will be less “good” and “bad” schools so this won’t be an issue. Some people closer to the currently less popular schools will still request them because they’re close to home. Others will request them because they like the admissions boost from attending a lower SES school. With time, they will even out.


BS

Rich people won’t send their kids into a poor neighborhood and poor people will send theirs across town on two buses to get to a better neighborhood. The schools in the rich neighborhoods will end up overcrowded and the rich people will put up a stink.


Let them. They can deal with it or go to private.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?


Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.


Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Oh i see. It’s the old “I pay your salary so I get to tell you what to do” argument.

Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Never has, and never will. Best of luck though.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?


Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.


Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Oh i see. It’s the old “I pay your salary so I get to tell you what to do” argument.

Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Never has, and never will. Best of luck though.


You’re missing the point. You can use any county library or park, the county doesn’t zone you for one.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Oh i see. It’s the old “I pay your salary so I get to tell you what to do” argument.

Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Never has, and never will. Best of luck though.


You’re missing the point. You can use any county library or park, the county doesn’t zone you for one.


And neither library nor parks provide thousands of hours a year of highly regulated, and mandatory educational services.

Whats your point?

These are different things.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?


Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.


Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D


This is some random video from Utah. You were implying there is a group called “Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax” by using all those capital letters. I guess this movement just exists in your head.

The Utah video doesn’t describe a system with no school boundaries. It describes a process where students could more easily transfer to a school other than their base school that has capacity than is currently the case in FCPS, where there are specific and limited grounds to pupil place.

So students would still be unable to transfer to popular schools like Chantilly, McLean, or West Springfield that are at or over capacity. On the other hand, a student could more easily transfer to Madison or South Lakes without having to commit, for example, to taking AP or IB courses.

But this approach conflicts with recent decisions by FCPS to make student transfers more, not less, difficult, so it seems you’re out of luck for the foreseeable future.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.


Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?


Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?


You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.


This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.


It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.


They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.


It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.


Oh i see. It’s the old “I pay your salary so I get to tell you what to do” argument.

Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Never has, and never will. Best of luck though.


You’re missing the point. You can use any county library or park, the county doesn’t zone you for one.


And neither library nor parks provide thousands of hours a year of highly regulated, and mandatory educational services.

Whats your point?

These are different things.


The same principle applies regardless of the county service. School choice isn’t exactly a new concept and it’s really not controversial
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