Abolish Boundary Maps Fairfax

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?

Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.

Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Oh i see. It’s the old “I pay your salary so I get to tell you what to do” argument.

Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Never has, and never will. Best of luck though.

You’re missing the point. You can use any county library or park, the county doesn’t zone you for one.

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Oh i see. It’s the old “I pay your salary so I get to tell you what to do” argument.

Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Never has, and never will. Best of luck though.

You’re missing the point. You can use any county library or park, the county doesn’t zone you for one.

And neither library nor parks provide thousands of hours a year of highly regulated, and mandatory educational services.

Whats your point?

These are different things.

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?

Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.

Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D

This is some random video from Utah. You were implying there is a group called “Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax” by using all those capital letters. I guess this movement just exists in your head.

The Utah video doesn’t describe a system with no school boundaries. It describes a process where students could more easily transfer to a school other than their base school that has capacity than is currently the case in FCPS, where there are specific and limited grounds to pupil place.

So students would still be unable to transfer to popular schools like Chantilly, McLean, or West Springfield that are at or over capacity. On the other hand, a student could more easily transfer to Madison or South Lakes without having to commit, for example, to taking AP or IB courses.

But this approach conflicts with recent decisions by FCPS to make student transfers more, not less, difficult, so it seems you’re out of luck for the foreseeable future.

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Oh i see. It’s the old “I pay your salary so I get to tell you what to do” argument.

Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Never has, and never will. Best of luck though.

You’re missing the point. You can use any county library or park, the county doesn’t zone you for one.

And neither library nor parks provide thousands of hours a year of highly regulated, and mandatory educational services.

Whats your point?

These are different things.

The same principle applies regardless of the county service. School choice isn’t exactly a new concept and it’s really not controversial

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?

Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.

Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D

This is some random video from Utah. You were implying there is a group called “Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax” by using all those capital letters. I guess this movement just exists in your head.

The Utah video doesn’t describe a system with no school boundaries. It describes a process where students could more easily transfer to a school other than their base school that has capacity than is currently the case in FCPS, where there are specific and limited grounds to pupil place.

So students would still be unable to transfer to popular schools like Chantilly, McLean, or West Springfield that are at or over capacity. On the other hand, a student could more easily transfer to Madison or South Lakes without having to commit, for example, to taking AP or IB courses.

But this approach conflicts with recent decisions by FCPS to make student transfers more, not less, difficult, so it seems you’re out of luck for the foreseeable future.

It’s not hard. You could grandfather in some students but eventually abolish all boundaries. This is just the beginning. In the meantime, the Abolish movement in Fairfax will live rent free in your head.

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McLean will become a city.

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Anonymous wrote:McLean will become a city.

Okay, good luck with that.

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?

Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.

Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D

This is some random video from Utah. You were implying there is a group called “Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax” by using all those capital letters. I guess this movement just exists in your head.

The Utah video doesn’t describe a system with no school boundaries. It describes a process where students could more easily transfer to a school other than their base school that has capacity than is currently the case in FCPS, where there are specific and limited grounds to pupil place.

So students would still be unable to transfer to popular schools like Chantilly, McLean, or West Springfield that are at or over capacity. On the other hand, a student could more easily transfer to Madison or South Lakes without having to commit, for example, to taking AP or IB courses.

But this approach conflicts with recent decisions by FCPS to make student transfers more, not less, difficult, so it seems you’re out of luck for the foreseeable future.

It’s not hard. You could grandfather in some students but eventually abolish all boundaries. This is just the beginning. In the meantime, the Abolish movement in Fairfax will live rent free in your head.

You should be flattered I responded at all but happy to now leave you alone with your fantasies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McLean will become a city.

It can't, but it would if it could. The MCA was looking into incorporating as a town or city when it briefly appeared that might be possible in future.

However, the Virginia legislature instead renewed the state-wide ban on new city/town incorporations and also the ban on cities/towns annexing adjacent unincorporated land. So that cannot happen.

As near as I can tell, this is because sales tax is shared between the state and the local government. So counties lose sales tax revenue if county territory becomes a town or city.

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Anonymous wrote:The county is huge. No boundaries is an absolutely stupid idea. It would als decimate housing prices as people who want to count on a good school option for other counties using normal systems still.

Who said you have the right to hoard wealth in home values?

Who’s talking about hoarding? People in good zones spent a lot on their house. Why in the world would they support something that would decimate that initial investment?

You invested in FCPS, nothing more, nothing less. You’re not entitled to a certain school as all schools will soon become equal with attendance boundaries are abolished.

This is the most transparent trolling on this sub-forum in a long time.

It's so far removed from how the Democratic-controlled School Boards have behaved in Fairfax over the past 20 years as to warrant only a quick chuckle and immediate dismissal.

It’s bipartisan. Conservatives will support less government involvement in telling you kid where to go to school.

They’re not “telling your kid where to go to school”.

They’re setting up a distributed system of schools based loosely on population and geography.

Where you choose to reside, and thus where you choose to send your kid to school, is your choice.

This alternative proposal is logistical chaos.

It’s overreach. The government doesn’t have the right to tell you which school you can attend when you pay taxes to the county.

Yes, they can. If they can’t, don’t you think someone like yourself would have challenged the system by now? Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case?

Other districts have done this, see the YouTube video from Utah. Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax will advocate.

Couldn’t find this group’s site - do you have a link?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D

This is some random video from Utah. You were implying there is a group called “Abolish Attendance Boundaries Fairfax” by using all those capital letters. I guess this movement just exists in your head.

The Utah video doesn’t describe a system with no school boundaries. It describes a process where students could more easily transfer to a school other than their base school that has capacity than is currently the case in FCPS, where there are specific and limited grounds to pupil place.

So students would still be unable to transfer to popular schools like Chantilly, McLean, or West Springfield that are at or over capacity. On the other hand, a student could more easily transfer to Madison or South Lakes without having to commit, for example, to taking AP or IB courses.

But this approach conflicts with recent decisions by FCPS to make student transfers more, not less, difficult, so it seems you’re out of luck for the foreseeable future.

It’s not hard. You could grandfather in some students but eventually abolish all boundaries. This is just the beginning. In the meantime, the Abolish movement in Fairfax will live rent free in your head.

You should be flattered I responded at all but happy to now leave you alone with your fantasies.

Rent free in your head

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Anonymous wrote:Schools have capacity constraints. If a school has now demand than capacity, how to determine who gets in?

If the answer is lottery (ie randomness), them you could have a scenario where some kid 45 minutes away gets in and another kid across the street from the school does not.

You would also have scenario where kids in the same neighborhoods couldn't go to school together.

If this lottery is held annually, than students could be subject to new schools every year.

You tank your top 3. Kids in the same neighborhood don’t have to go to the same school, but they can make the same requests.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA-KXuz5j0&pp=ygUfT3BlbiBlbnJvbGxtZW50IGdyYW5pdGUgYWNob29sYQ%3D%3D

and what happens when certain schools aren’t selected at all

With students mixed around the county there will be less “good” and “bad” schools so this won’t be an issue. Some people closer to the currently less popular schools will still request them because they’re close to home. Others will request them because they like the admissions boost from attending a lower SES school. With time, they will even out.

Ah, yes. You clearly have your pulse on what people believe and how they behave around here.

/s

Actually people around here would probably like this. https://reason.org/faq/frequently-asked-questions-on-public-school-open-enrollment/

[Anonymous]

Where can we find Abolish bumper stickers?

[Anonymous]

An article in favor of new boundary zones rather than abolishing zones completely-

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3757887.3763006

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Anonymous wrote:An article in favor of new boundary zones rather than abolishing zones completely-

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3757887.3763006

We’re fresh off the disastrous comprehensive review of the last two years. The study you cite is just ideological drivel.

Ask the FCPS school board whether they thought the juice was worth the squeeze on the latest comprehensive boundary review, and they will all say no.

It was a waste of resources, time, and goodwill across the county. They squandered years where they could’ve actually been working to improve the system, rather than just try to paper over poorer performing schools.