AAP vs. MS Honors - what's the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:What happens to level 3 AAP kids from elementary school who were not here for second grade screening and did not apply separately – are they grouped with gen ed advice or aap for MS?

Yes, my level 3 kid who never applied for level 4 got the generic Gen Ed advice despite the fact that his teachers thought he needed more. Bit was a whole thing....

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Less chairs in the air.

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I think it depends on the middle school. At Cooper they automatically placed all of the kids not in Algebra I Honors in 7th grade into 7th grade honors math. Only the students with significant struggles in elementary school were placed in regular 7th grade math.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Carson has separate AAP Algebra 1 H classes in 7th grade. I am not sure that Geometry is AAP only because a good number of kids take Geometry in the summer, there might not be enough 8th grade AAP Geometry students to have AAP only math classes.

Nope, this is not true. There is no separate AAP math curriculum at Carson.

I didn't say a separate curriculum, I said that there is a separate AAP A1H class, meaning that AAP kids are in their own Algebra 1H class.

I don't think this is true, but also I don't think there are many kids in Algebra 1 that were not in AAP in 6th.

Advanced math kids can take A1H in 7th grade, Fox Mill didn’t have LIV until this current years 7th graders and there are plenty of Fox Mill kids who were taking Advanced math and in A1H last year. I have no idea how many kids qualify for A1H through advanced math but I would guess that there are more then people think.

I also know that my kids A1H class at Carson was all AAP and several of my kids friends in A1H who were not in AAP did not have any AAP kids in their A1H class last year.

Once again, how the heck do you know if kids from the four other elementary schools were in AAP or not? You don't. You know which kids were at Navy with yours and which weren't, but that's it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Carson has separate AAP Algebra 1 H classes in 7th grade. I am not sure that Geometry is AAP only because a good number of kids take Geometry in the summer, there might not be enough 8th grade AAP Geometry students to have AAP only math classes.

Nope, this is not true. There is no separate AAP math curriculum at Carson.

I didn't say a separate curriculum, I said that there is a separate AAP A1H class, meaning that AAP kids are in their own Algebra 1H class.

I don't think this is true, but also I don't think there are many kids in Algebra 1 that were not in AAP in 6th.

Advanced math kids can take A1H in 7th grade, Fox Mill didn’t have LIV until this current years 7th graders and there are plenty of Fox Mill kids who were taking Advanced math and in A1H last year. I have no idea how many kids qualify for A1H through advanced math but I would guess that there are more then people think.

I also know that my kids A1H class at Carson was all AAP and several of my kids friends in A1H who were not in AAP did not have any AAP kids in their A1H class last year.

Right. Because you looked at every single child's record to determine if they were AAP or not. Every single 7th grader at Carson including kids from several different elementary schools that you and your child had never met before? Please. You have NO idea who is AAP and who isn't. My child was surprised in 7th to discover that several of her classmates from her elementary AAP class were not in her middle school AAP classes, they were in Honors English and History. Turns out they had been principal placed into the elementary school AAP class since 3rd grade.

No because every kid in his Algebra class was in one of his core classes, which were AAP.

We deferred AAP in ES, so we have no clue who was or was not in AAP from our school.

Is your kid so weird that he makes a list of every kid in every class to compare them? This is not normal, OP. Nobody believes you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why a poster says something didn't happen. If we post saying it did, it was our experience. It happened.

BECAUSE WE HAVE KIDS AT CARSON TOO

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I'd watch and counter what might be a difference in advising. The next year, for 9th previously labeled AAP kids are encouraged to take all honors, and other kids, though straight As, are not - don't let this be their idea.

I don't think this happens. Everyone is encouraged to take honors.

As a momma of a bright Gen Ed kid who chose to take all honors (and managed straight As first quarter) I can tell you that the generic advice to Gen Ed kids at our school is to take one honors class in their area of strength and that taking all honors will be to hard for them. We had to advocate a bit to get him in the schedule he wanted...and if he didn't do well enough on sol day they would have bumped him out

What elementary? My very average kid at Crossfield was suggested to take all Honors. We actually chose not to do Honors math and now regret it because it's too easy..

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I'd watch and counter what might be a difference in advising. The next year, for 9th previously labeled AAP kids are encouraged to take all honors, and other kids, though straight As, are not - don't let this be their idea.

I don't think this happens. Everyone is encouraged to take honors.

As a momma of a bright Gen Ed kid who chose to take all honors (and managed straight As first quarter) I can tell you that the generic advice to Gen Ed kids at our school is to take one honors class in their area of strength and that taking all honors will be to hard for them. We had to advocate a bit to get him in the schedule he wanted...and if he didn't do well enough on sol day they would have bumped him out

What elementary? My very average kid at Crossfield was suggested to take all Honors. We actually chose not to do Honors math and now regret it because it's too easy..

If anything math is the most important subject to take honors. It builds on itself.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I'd watch and counter what might be a difference in advising. The next year, for 9th previously labeled AAP kids are encouraged to take all honors, and other kids, though straight As, are not - don't let this be their idea.

I don't think this happens. Everyone is encouraged to take honors.

As a momma of a bright Gen Ed kid who chose to take all honors (and managed straight As first quarter) I can tell you that the generic advice to Gen Ed kids at our school is to take one honors class in their area of strength and that taking all honors will be to hard for them. We had to advocate a bit to get him in the schedule he wanted...and if he didn't do well enough on sol day they would have bumped him out

What elementary? My very average kid at Crossfield was suggested to take all Honors. We actually chose not to do Honors math and now regret it because it's too easy..

We feed to twain

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There are too many versions of different subjects nowadays. It never used to be this way.

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Best I can tell at Rocky AAP and honors are identical.

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Anonymous wrote:In practice, M7H at center schools is often faster paced or has less review than the same class at a local school due to the former having fewer strugglers and a better prepared student population.

Also why didn't you supplement during 5th? As a parent you are ultimately responsible for making sure your kid is learning what they need to learn

OP here...Also thumbs all the way to you. You're worse than a troll who doesn't know what they are talking about. You didn't answer the question just inserted information that isn't relevant. Other people were helpful...why did you even comment? This question has been answered! And how do you know I didn't supplement in 5th grade? I absolutely did supplement. Boooooo. All the way down the street for you. Gosh you are the worst kind of person.

Thank you to everyone who contributed in a meaningful way!

No-one has explained this to you yet, but it's important for you to know that the teachers place the kids into the 7th grade math class that is appropriate for them. If your child is really struggling in 6th grade AAP math, they may put him in regular 7th grade math instead of math honors. A child has to test into Algebra, and it sounds like he won't.

lol! "No one has explained this to you yet." Apparently no one has explained to you that FCPS doesn't give the Iowa to test into Algebra anymore. We were told by our AAP teacher that everyone in 6th grade AAP is expected to do Algebra I next year unless SOL scores are middling. We will need to advocate for our kid to be put in honors 8th math if she scores close to or above advanced. And we will be doing that because Algebra 1 in 7th grade is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Best I can tell at Rocky AAP and honors are identical.

Our oldest kid went to Rocky for AAP. This is probably true based on the student body. It's definitely not true for some of the middle schools that feed to Rocky for AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:In practice, M7H at center schools is often faster paced or has less review than the same class at a local school due to the former having fewer strugglers and a better prepared student population.

Also why didn't you supplement during 5th? As a parent you are ultimately responsible for making sure your kid is learning what they need to learn

OP here...Also thumbs all the way to you. You're worse than a troll who doesn't know what they are talking about. You didn't answer the question just inserted information that isn't relevant. Other people were helpful...why did you even comment? This question has been answered! And how do you know I didn't supplement in 5th grade? I absolutely did supplement. Boooooo. All the way down the street for you. Gosh you are the worst kind of person.

Thank you to everyone who contributed in a meaningful way!

No-one has explained this to you yet, but it's important for you to know that the teachers place the kids into the 7th grade math class that is appropriate for them. If your child is really struggling in 6th grade AAP math, they may put him in regular 7th grade math instead of math honors. A child has to test into Algebra, and it sounds like he won't.

lol! "No one has explained this to you yet." Apparently no one has explained to you that FCPS doesn't give the Iowa to test into Algebra anymore. We were told by our AAP teacher that everyone in 6th grade AAP is expected to do Algebra I next year unless SOL scores are middling. We will need to advocate for our kid to be put in honors 8th math if she scores close to or above advanced. And we will be doing that because Algebra 1 in 7th grade is ridiculous.

You would opt into Math7H, not Math 8. You can do that, just stay on top of it because they moved kids from Math7H into Algebra 1H without checking parents.

Algebra1H is fine for some kids, they are ready for it and can handle it. I don’t get why they are pushing so many kids into A1H so much faster. The goal is A1 in 8th grade, no clue why that has meant pushing into A1H in 7th grade.

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Yes thank you for the correction - it is Math7H instead of Math 8, but it's the 8th grade curriculum, apparently. We're opting way out of Algebra in 7th grade for ours. There's a whole year of math that should come before that! And it's not something we can realistically cover the summer before 7th. Hard pass.