Should I fire my employee or write her up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can't you just tell all your employees to stop talking politics and religion on the job?

I don't see how employee B's opinion on gay marriage results in employee A & B fearing for their lives. That's weird.

Me and another manager talk politics over political newspapers because we're in agreement. Employees A and C aren't in agreement with B, so B is the only one not allowed.

You can't be serious with this.

JFC you're stupid.

[Anonymous]

Whatever you do, you need not worry you are ruining anyone’s “career.” Working retail is not a career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Edited version.

My assistant store manager came to me that she and who I will call employee A were talking about gay rights. Within that conversation, employee A stated that employee B made her uncomfortable a year prior because employee B made a comment that the idea of same-sex relationships are weird. Also, in that conversation was another person, who I will call employee C. My assistant store manager told me that employee B made both employee A and C horribly scared of working with B, even though A and B closed multiple times together, that they're scared for their life and that must've been why they didn't say anything until a year later, employee A had been ruminating about the event since a year ago, and that employee B must've gotten up in their faces and intimidated A and C to not speak up.

I talk to both employees and they confirm the allegations. Even though the behavior and incident are a one-off, I still find it totally inappropriate to discuss politics at work and ask if someone believes in God (!).

I then go to employee B, tell her what happened, and she admits to the allegations. B says that she doesn't hate gay people and wants them to have their rights. I Tell her that people are only allowed to talk about politcs is when they're in agreement. Then fast forward three weeks later, on Monday, one my sales leads comes up to me and tells me that the day before that employee B told several employees that they can't discuss speculating other people's sexuality and talking about sex acts because that is sexual harassment. Then employee A comes up to me and tells me her concerns that employee B is massively overstepping. I have to say to them that they won't and they have nothing to be afraid about because they haven't done or said anything wrong.

Employee B is seriously overstepping. She's doing my job! I'm thinking to myself, do I have to write her up again to stop her from harassing her coworkers? I'm at the end of my rope with this associate. Should I fire her?

I still want to fire employee B for harassing everyone and creating drama.

Employee B actually sounds like she may be smarter than you. Just because two people agree on a "controversial" subject doesn't mean it is OK to discuss in the workplace. And employee B is correct. You cannot talk about those things at work as it CAN be considered sexual harassment. Tread carefully OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Edited version.

My assistant store manager came to me that she and who I will call employee A were talking about gay rights. Within that conversation, employee A stated that employee B made her uncomfortable a year prior because employee B made a comment that the idea of same-sex relationships are weird. Also, in that conversation was another person, who I will call employee C. My assistant store manager told me that employee B made both employee A and C horribly scared of working with B, even though A and B closed multiple times together, that they're scared for their life and that must've been why they didn't say anything until a year later, employee A had been ruminating about the event since a year ago, and that employee B must've gotten up in their faces and intimidated A and C to not speak up.

I talk to both employees and they confirm the allegations. Even though the behavior and incident are a one-off, I still find it totally inappropriate to discuss politics at work and ask if someone believes in God (!).

I then go to employee B, tell her what happened, and she admits to the allegations. B says that she doesn't hate gay people and wants them to have their rights. I Tell her that people are only allowed to talk about politcs is when they're in agreement. Then fast forward three weeks later, on Monday, one my sales leads comes up to me and tells me that the day before that employee B told several employees that they can't discuss speculating other people's sexuality and talking about sex acts because that is sexual harassment. Then employee A comes up to me and tells me her concerns that employee B is massively overstepping. I have to say to them that they won't and they have nothing to be afraid about because they haven't done or said anything wrong.

Employee B is seriously overstepping. She's doing my job! I'm thinking to myself, do I have to write her up again to stop her from harassing her coworkers? I'm at the end of my rope with this associate. Should I fire her?

I still want to fire employee B for harassing everyone and creating drama.

Employee B actually sounds like she may be smarter than you. Just because two people agree on a "controversial" subject doesn't mean it is OK to discuss in the workplace. And employee B is correct. You cannot talk about those things at work as it CAN be considered sexual harassment. Tread carefully OP.

+1

If anybody should be fired, it’s everybody except for employee B. Just because you agree on a controversial subject doesn’t mean you get to talk about it. I honestly don’t understand how you don’t see this, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Edited version.

My assistant store manager came to me that she and who I will call employee A were talking about gay rights. Within that conversation, employee A stated that employee B made her uncomfortable a year prior because employee B made a comment that the idea of same-sex relationships are weird. Also, in that conversation was another person, who I will call employee C. My assistant store manager told me that employee B made both employee A and C horribly scared of working with B, even though A and B closed multiple times together, that they're scared for their life and that must've been why they didn't say anything until a year later, employee A had been ruminating about the event since a year ago, and that employee B must've gotten up in their faces and intimidated A and C to not speak up.

I talk to both employees and they confirm the allegations. Even though the behavior and incident are a one-off, I still find it totally inappropriate to discuss politics at work and ask if someone believes in God (!).

I then go to employee B, tell her what happened, and she admits to the allegations. B says that she doesn't hate gay people and wants them to have their rights. I Tell her that people are only allowed to talk about politcs is when they're in agreement. Then fast forward three weeks later, on Monday, one my sales leads comes up to me and tells me that the day before that employee B told several employees that they can't discuss speculating other people's sexuality and talking about sex acts because that is sexual harassment. Then employee A comes up to me and tells me her concerns that employee B is massively overstepping. I have to say to them that they won't and they have nothing to be afraid about because they haven't done or said anything wrong.

Employee B is seriously overstepping. She's doing my job! I'm thinking to myself, do I have to write her up again to stop her from harassing her coworkers? I'm at the end of my rope with this associate. Should I fire her?

I still want to fire employee B for harassing everyone and creating drama.

Employee B actually sounds like she may be smarter than you. Just because two people agree on a "controversial" subject doesn't mean it is OK to discuss in the workplace. And employee B is correct. You cannot talk about those things at work as it CAN be considered sexual harassment. Tread carefully OP.

+1

If anybody should be fired, it’s everybody except for employee B. Just because you agree on a controversial subject doesn’t mean you get to talk about it. I honestly don’t understand how you don’t see this, OP.

Probably because OP wants an echochamber. Op is one of those people.

[Anonymous]

How the heck do you know you're "in agreement" before you start talking politics? Sure you might both be liberal or whatever, but you can't possibly agree on every detail. You're going to be butthurt when one of your employees has a slightly different take on trans bathrooms or something.

[Anonymous]

OP here. I told my employees that they can bring up current and past concerns, even if the past concerns are over a 1+ years old. I will even take on something that happened 5 years ago and punish the person or people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I told my employees that they can bring up current and past concerns, even if the past concerns are over a 1+ years old. I will even take on something that happened 5 years ago and punish the person or people.

Dear OP - this thread died more than two weeks ago. You just resurrected it again today. Why? The answer again is that you don't have the power to fire and hand this over to HR, your owner or whomever hired you. Stop coming back and changing the story and wasting everyone's time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I told my employees that they can bring up current and past concerns, even if the past concerns are over a 1+ years old. I will even take on something that happened 5 years ago and punish the person or people.

OK. 5 years ago, A told me that B agreed with something Trump said about immigration. So what are you doing about it?

[Anonymous]

I am slow on the uptake but this is a troll thread.