AfD is now the second most popular party in Germany

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember when German citizens voted for AfD in a desperate attempt at halting the flood of Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants, and were insulted and disparaged by Jewish people around the world?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-antisemitism-idUSKCN1BZ0SI

“Jewish groups in Europe and the United States expressed alarm at the success of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party in Sunday’s parliamentary election and urged other parties not to form alliances with it.
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Ronald Lauder, president of the New York-based World Jewish Congress, called Chancellor Angela Merkel a “true friend of Israel and the Jewish people” and decried the AfD’s gains at a time when anti-Semitism was increasing across the globe.
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The AfD, which has surged in the two years since Merkel opened Germany’s borders to more than 1 million migrants mainly fleeing Middle East wars, says immigration jeopardizes Germany’s culture but denies it is racist or anti-Semitic.
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The European Jewish Congress urged other German political parties to stick to pre-election vows and not to consider any coalition talks with the AfD””

The majority of Jewish people support open borders and lax immigration control in all countries except for Israel

It’s an interesting double standard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember when German citizens voted for AfD in a desperate attempt at halting the flood of Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants, and were insulted and disparaged by Jewish people around the world?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-antisemitism-idUSKCN1BZ0SI

“Jewish groups in Europe and the United States expressed alarm at the success of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party in Sunday’s parliamentary election and urged other parties not to form alliances with it.
…
Ronald Lauder, president of the New York-based World Jewish Congress, called Chancellor Angela Merkel a “true friend of Israel and the Jewish people” and decried the AfD’s gains at a time when anti-Semitism was increasing across the globe.
…
The AfD, which has surged in the two years since Merkel opened Germany’s borders to more than 1 million migrants mainly fleeing Middle East wars, says immigration jeopardizes Germany’s culture but denies it is racist or anti-Semitic.
…
The European Jewish Congress urged other German political parties to stick to pre-election vows and not to consider any coalition talks with the AfD””

The majority of Jewish people support open borders and lax immigration control in all countries except for Israel

It’s an interesting double standard

Oh god it’s you again but now repeating your crap in this thread? Go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember when German citizens voted for AfD in a desperate attempt at halting the flood of Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants, and were insulted and disparaged by Jewish people around the world?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-antisemitism-idUSKCN1BZ0SI

“Jewish groups in Europe and the United States expressed alarm at the success of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party in Sunday’s parliamentary election and urged other parties not to form alliances with it.
…
Ronald Lauder, president of the New York-based World Jewish Congress, called Chancellor Angela Merkel a “true friend of Israel and the Jewish people” and decried the AfD’s gains at a time when anti-Semitism was increasing across the globe.
…
The AfD, which has surged in the two years since Merkel opened Germany’s borders to more than 1 million migrants mainly fleeing Middle East wars, says immigration jeopardizes Germany’s culture but denies it is racist or anti-Semitic.
…
The European Jewish Congress urged other German political parties to stick to pre-election vows and not to consider any coalition talks with the AfD””

The majority of Jewish people support open borders and lax immigration control in all countries except for Israel

It’s an interesting double standard

Oh god it’s you again but now repeating your crap in this thread? Go away.

I’m not 17:22

But that poster brought receipts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Germany's response is to double down and try to cram in as many migrants as possible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66003238

Why do all these articles about declining population always focus on creating policies to increase migration as the only solution?

Because the other choices:

1. Reduced consumption

2. Boosting native childbirth

Are politically virtually impossible

1. Voluntary degrowth is fine on a personal level (I willingly do it — cycle/walk to the store vs car even though it takes longer or use cold showers daily even in the winter or never really use air conditioning) — but western people as a whole don’t want to accept this

2. Native childbirth boosting policy outside of israel is impossible — even right wing scholars like Lyman stone — concede the cost in public support to induce additional births is extremely high.

Israel makes it work because: 1. Jews are the chosen people

2. Per capita consumption in Israel is still way lower than the us — even most American Jews would struggle to shift their current consumption habits to fit Israeli levels

The reality is that the Germans solved this issue already with their marriage loans system. In short the system gave a newlywed couple a subsidized loan for housing, and then a quarter of the loan was forgiven for each child that was born to the couple.

As for being "too expensive," it is amazing what governments can find money for and what they cannot. If it benefits the people, it is always too expensive.

They didn't solve it though. They continue to have birth rates below the replacement rate, even with kindergeld, free kindergarten, etc. Germans just don't want babies; they want to live child free and take holidays to Mallorca.

[Anonymous]

Germany wouldn't be in this position if they hadn't gone so insanely far left. Their green energy policies are an utter failure on a scale that most Americans don't seem to realize (and should read about bc it has implications for our own policies). Their "Willkommenskultur"/fake culture of being open to foreigners was never a good cultural fit for Germans, who tend to be extremely certain that German culture is perfect and better than all other cultures. And their "play both ends against the middle" foreign policy has left them looking like opportunists. Of course they are now questioning all of this and pushing back against it. Every cultural movement has an equal and opposite counter movement (eventually). They can't send their government out as far left as they did and not expect a counterculture to develop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Republicans are the second most popular party in America..... The majority of Americans still want Democratic policies and leadership... If you got rid of gerrymandering, you would never have another Republican president and very few senators again

Don't know why you believe that because as people experience the force and most importantly, the results of the democrat party, they rebel.

[Anonymous]

Well it’s not fair that they are bearing the brunt of the sanctions…
What I also don’t understand is why they can’t invite immigrants from Eastern Europe.. well now they have Ukrainians but before? Why bring in masses from the Middle East?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well it’s not fair that they are bearing the brunt of the sanctions…
What I also don’t understand is why they can’t invite immigrants from Eastern Europe.. well now they have Ukrainians but before? Why bring in masses from the Middle East?

Babies.

[Anonymous]

AfD is led by the Kremlin.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-secret-messages-document-moscow-contacts-with-staffer-of-far-right-afd-a-0040e526-39d7-4f22-8bc1-6772bc2d840a

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember when German citizens voted for AfD in a desperate attempt at halting the flood of Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants, and were insulted and disparaged by Jewish people around the world?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-antisemitism-idUSKCN1BZ0SI

“Jewish groups in Europe and the United States expressed alarm at the success of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party in Sunday’s parliamentary election and urged other parties not to form alliances with it.
…
Ronald Lauder, president of the New York-based World Jewish Congress, called Chancellor Angela Merkel a “true friend of Israel and the Jewish people” and decried the AfD’s gains at a time when anti-Semitism was increasing across the globe.
…
The AfD, which has surged in the two years since Merkel opened Germany’s borders to more than 1 million migrants mainly fleeing Middle East wars, says immigration jeopardizes Germany’s culture but denies it is racist or anti-Semitic.
…
The European Jewish Congress urged other German political parties to stick to pre-election vows and not to consider any coalition talks with the AfD””

The majority of Jewish people support open borders and lax immigration control in all countries except for Israel

It’s an interesting double standard

Oh god it’s you again but now repeating your crap in this thread? Go away.

https://youtu.be/x2oKhAb1BxI?si=Foit21sVd4mDiKBY

Very interesting

[Anonymous]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-12-09/will-afd-s-alice-weidel-be-germany-s-first-far-right-leader-since-nazi-era

AfD led by a woman

Why isn’t she being supported by dcum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AfD is led by the Kremlin.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-secret-messages-document-moscow-contacts-with-staffer-of-far-right-afd-a-0040e526-39d7-4f22-8bc1-6772bc2d840a

oh, of course thery are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Immigration is exhausting Europe. There are many refusing to fit in adopt European culture, language, and customs. What could possibly go wrong mixing civilizations diametrically opposed to each other on almost every issue? We’ve seen this in the UK, France, and now Germany. People reject open borders and unfettered, mass migration.

People said that about every immigrant group once upon a time in the US esp. Irish & Italians.

No that’s fundamentally different now. It just is. The immigrants coming now come from cultures vastly different from the cultures in the West. They look very different so racism plays a role. But ultimately yeah if the newcomers have nothing or very little in common and genuinely don’t believe in the values of T he blew country well I don’t know

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Immigration is exhausting Europe. There are many refusing to fit in adopt European culture, language, and customs. What could possibly go wrong mixing civilizations diametrically opposed to each other on almost every issue? We’ve seen this in the UK, France, and now Germany. People reject open borders and unfettered, mass migration.

People said that about every immigrant group once upon a time in the US esp. Irish & Italians.

But if a culture wants to create something fundamentally different than what my culture here is, why should that be respected? I don’t want women to never work and be on welfare bc their religion forbids them from leaving the house without a man and they have children they can’t afford (see Muslim population in Denmark as one example).

It's a bit different in Germany. Germans are heavily encouraged to have immigrants live with them in their households. The government will pay for you to house Ukrainians but even so, they exist together in a way that doesn't happen here in the US. When they took a bunch of Syrian and Afghan migrants, they plopped them by handfuls into little German villages, etc. The idea was full integration. It hasn't really "taken." I have a weird penchant for talking to new immigrants in Germany about their experiences and every one of them has mentioned that Germany is difficult to assimilate into and that they want to go home. Even Germans that work in the social system to help immigrants express disdain for their cultures-- Americans have a lot to work on, but we generally believe that cultures should be respected. That isn't a super European viewpoint.

[Anonymous]

AfD won the Thuringia election, and seemed to have a blocking minority in Saxony. Then a "software error" was discovered that just happened to take away a seat from AfD.
https://www.krone.at/3512198

Its amazing what the AfD is managing to do despite all the official resistance it gets from established parties.