AfD is now the second most popular party in Germany

Anonymous
https://www.bild.de/politik/2023/politik/eilmeldung-af-84467996.bild.html

AfD is now the second biggest party nationally in polls — larger than spd (party of the current chancellor)

German political leadership right now has no credibility inside and outside the country.
Anonymous
The problem with Germany is that the people think that it's best not to pick a side. So they want warm relationships with every other nation, in an apparent total lack of understanding of how international relations works. They truly don't get that if they operate outside a western construct, they cease to be part of the West. Trump was right to try to make them commit financially to NATO and to get them to rethink their energy deals with Russia. At the time, the American left criticized Trump for this, reflexively. I think that made Germans dig in on the idea that they can play both ends against the middle, as AfD seeks to do. This will not result in more independence for Germany. It will result in a more Eastern style Germany.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The problem with Germany is that the people think that it's best not to pick a side. So they want warm relationships with every other nation, in an apparent total lack of understanding of how international relations works. They truly don't get that if they operate outside a western construct, they cease to be part of the West. Trump was right to try to make them commit financially to NATO and to get them to rethink their energy deals with Russia. At the time, the American left criticized Trump for this, reflexively. I think that made Germans dig in on the idea that they can play both ends against the middle, as AfD seeks to do. This will not result in more independence for Germany. It will result in a more Eastern style Germany.


German unification was a massive error

It should’ve been broken down to pre-Bismarck lines
Anonymous
Germany's response is to double down and try to cram in as many migrants as possible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66003238
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Germany's response is to double down and try to cram in as many migrants as possible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66003238


A better strategy would be for the international community to try and stabilize the nations that the migrants are coming from, to lessen the exodus and to begin returning them home.

Also, with the collapse of Wagner and Russia, will it be possible to finally change the course and stem the violence in Syria?

But of course those kinds of ideas never enter the minds of the far right either - they just say "no migrants" while coddling and cozying up to authoritarians like Assad and Putin who cause the exodus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Germany's response is to double down and try to cram in as many migrants as possible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66003238


Why do all these articles about declining population always focus on creating policies to increase migration as the only solution?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Germany's response is to double down and try to cram in as many migrants as possible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66003238


Why do all these articles about declining population always focus on creating policies to increase migration as the only solution?


Because replacing the population is the actual goal here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Germany's response is to double down and try to cram in as many migrants as possible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66003238


Why do all these articles about declining population always focus on creating policies to increase migration as the only solution?


Because the other choices:

1. Reduced consumption

2. Boosting native childbirth

Are politically virtually impossible

1. Voluntary degrowth is fine on a personal level (I willingly do it — cycle/walk to the store vs car even though it takes longer or use cold showers daily even in the winter or never really use air conditioning) — but western people as a whole don’t want to accept this

2. Native childbirth boosting policy outside of israel is impossible — even right wing scholars like Lyman stone — concede the cost in public support to induce additional births is extremely high.

Israel makes it work because: 1. Jews are the chosen people

2. Per capita consumption in Israel is still way lower than the us — even most American Jews would struggle to shift their current consumption habits to fit Israeli levels

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Germany's response is to double down and try to cram in as many migrants as possible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66003238


Why do all these articles about declining population always focus on creating policies to increase migration as the only solution?


Because the other choices:

1. Reduced consumption

2. Boosting native childbirth

Are politically virtually impossible

1. Voluntary degrowth is fine on a personal level (I willingly do it — cycle/walk to the store vs car even though it takes longer or use cold showers daily even in the winter or never really use air conditioning) — but western people as a whole don’t want to accept this

2. Native childbirth boosting policy outside of israel is impossible — even right wing scholars like Lyman stone — concede the cost in public support to induce additional births is extremely high.

Israel makes it work because: 1. Jews are the chosen people

2. Per capita consumption in Israel is still way lower than the us — even most American Jews would struggle to shift their current consumption habits to fit Israeli levels



The reality is that the Germans solved this issue already with their marriage loans system. In short the system gave a newlywed couple a subsidized loan for housing, and then a quarter of the loan was forgiven for each child that was born to the couple.

As for being "too expensive," it is amazing what governments can find money for and what they cannot. If it benefits the people, it is always too expensive.
Anonymous
Afd has broken 21% support and now German political establishment is considering banning the party 😂

Do that and the policies espoused by afd will be amplified and spread even wider

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Afd has broken 21% support and now German political establishment is considering banning the party 😂

Do that and the policies espoused by afd will be amplified and spread even wider



Agreed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The USA is a country of immigrants. Europe is not comparable.


Europe has a long history of population migration and cultural mixing. Some instances worked out relatively alright... many did not... just like the rest of the world.

The US is not a country of immigrants. Historically the vast majority of Americans were born Americans. We are approaching the peak levels of foreign born in the late 19th century, about 15%.


You should talk to the Turkish with several generations of roots in Germany and their journey in that country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is shocking that they are now polling over SDP. But in a way, not that shocking. Germans are very anti-war and the escalating tensions with Russia are not sitting well.

CDU/CDU appears to be losing some ground to AfD. They could shift right a bit and consolidate AdF and FDP support.


Fdp is what most dcum posters would vote for in Germany but they have absolutely cratered


DCUM skews to the left, FDP would have few supporters. FDP is more akin to libertarians than Democrats.


If by left you mean far-right as opposed to crazy right then sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The USA is a country of immigrants. Europe is not comparable.


And that will ultimately be the downfall.

I went to a fairly monolithic country recently and the intact traditions and culture were refreshing.
Anonymous
Regional elections in Bavaria and hesse over the weekend

AfD was second most popular party

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