FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love the logic behind the project. Administration has failed to educate all children. So let’s move high performing kids to low performing schools because kids will do a better job than the administration.

+1 Sums it up

When did you hear the SB discuss ways to engage and solve academic issues? We hear a lot about the achievement gap. It seems the only gap they care about is the gap in scores between schools. How about raising the bottom instead of pouring in more affluent kids?

[Anonymous]

FYI for those who are available and interested - there's a virtual Boundary Review Meeting tomorrow afternoon from 1:00-2:30. Registration is still open. It's the only one I can do so thought there might be others in the same boat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a new poster. For me it is about property value. I also am slightly worried about friendships with kids, but where I grew up many of us kids didn’t have continuity between ES to MS to HS in how our neighborhoods were zoned in 1980s (not in VA was OOS), and it was fine. I also sense it will be grandfathered for HS kid and ok I’m if it won’t for ES kid.

But yeah, it’s the economy stupid! That’s the motivator for my preference and when I talk with friends. Let’s be honest. Money is important as that determines my retirement plans. And changing school zoning could impact those plans.

And I’m ok with boundary changes as they do need to be aligned overall better. But to deny my concerns about financial implications or others is flawed thinking.

Too funny that it turns out that the ones who care about property value are okay with boundary changes. Total 180 on OP’s claim.

Property value will increase or decrease based on which side of the boundary change you're on. It's a wash to the county/sb whether those property tax funds are coming from you or your neighbor. Only the homeowner cares about their own property values.

With some moves yes. With other, it may bring everyone down. Try to fill MVHS is a way that doesn't also make the school losing students substantially worse.

You don't hear much about MVHS changing. A move from Langley to Herndon, yes that would be a huge drop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a new poster. For me it is about property value. I also am slightly worried about friendships with kids, but where I grew up many of us kids didn’t have continuity between ES to MS to HS in how our neighborhoods were zoned in 1980s (not in VA was OOS), and it was fine. I also sense it will be grandfathered for HS kid and ok I’m if it won’t for ES kid.

But yeah, it’s the economy stupid! That’s the motivator for my preference and when I talk with friends. Let’s be honest. Money is important as that determines my retirement plans. And changing school zoning could impact those plans.

And I’m ok with boundary changes as they do need to be aligned overall better. But to deny my concerns about financial implications or others is flawed thinking.

Too funny that it turns out that the ones who care about property value are okay with boundary changes. Total 180 on OP’s claim.

Property value will increase or decrease based on which side of the boundary change you're on. It's a wash to the county/sb whether those property tax funds are coming from you or your neighbor. Only the homeowner cares about their own property values.

With some moves yes. With other, it may bring everyone down. Try to fill MVHS is a way that doesn't also make the school losing students substantially worse.

You don't hear much about MVHS changing. A move from Langley to Herndon, yes that would be a huge drop.

In that case Langley would still be fine. If you pull students from Hayfield or West Potomac to MVHS, then Hayfield or West Potomac has their FARMS rate jump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a new poster. For me it is about property value. I also am slightly worried about friendships with kids, but where I grew up many of us kids didn’t have continuity between ES to MS to HS in how our neighborhoods were zoned in 1980s (not in VA was OOS), and it was fine. I also sense it will be grandfathered for HS kid and ok I’m if it won’t for ES kid.

But yeah, it’s the economy stupid! That’s the motivator for my preference and when I talk with friends. Let’s be honest. Money is important as that determines my retirement plans. And changing school zoning could impact those plans.

And I’m ok with boundary changes as they do need to be aligned overall better. But to deny my concerns about financial implications or others is flawed thinking.

Too funny that it turns out that the ones who care about property value are okay with boundary changes. Total 180 on OP’s claim.

Property value will increase or decrease based on which side of the boundary change you're on. It's a wash to the county/sb whether those property tax funds are coming from you or your neighbor. Only the homeowner cares about their own property values.

With some moves yes. With other, it may bring everyone down. Try to fill MVHS is a way that doesn't also make the school losing students substantially worse.

You don't hear much about MVHS changing. A move from Langley to Herndon, yes that would be a huge drop.

In that case Langley would still be fine. If you pull students from Hayfield or West Potomac to MVHS, then Hayfield or West Potomac has their FARMS rate jump

Ha, sure, all those who get to remain at Langley.

[Anonymous]

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If you want to be informed, join one of your community Facebook groups.

Fair Facts is one of the main ones. They are well established and well informed. Their eventual purpose appears to be fighting rezoning, witn lawsuits if necessary.

Many of the local elementary neighborhoods have smaller private groups, focused on advocating against rezoning and sharing information. I believe most of the WSHS neighborhoods have put together various groups. There is at least one in the middle of Fairfax (I think a Woodson elementary school feeder) and a few others.

Talk to your neighbirs to find your page.

They are mostly at the elementary neighborhood, because that is where rezoning will impact the high school rezoning.

Oh dear god. This is out of control. Yes, rezoning is tough but ultimately it's a good thing and the right thing to do to remove attendance island and have shorter bus rides for children. I'm all for neighborhood schools. The gerrymandering of boundaries that occurred in the past to get one block or one neighborhood into a "highly rated school" was absurd. This is going to change that and make neighborhood schools neighborhood schools again. Yes, I know it may impact your child and their friends, hopefully there will be some grandfathering in for kids, especially in high school.

But we all know what this is REALLY about and it's not about your children, it's because you're worried about your property value. That's why these Facebook groups and DCUM have people who don't even have children posting over and over again about this and trying to rile people up and protest. It's not about children for them, it's about $$.

Let's end this thread, because that just about puts a pin in it, doesn't it?

You don't want parents and homeowners to be informed about significant changes that may impact their children, finances, community and housing?

Incredible.

You do realize that information sharing is what most of these community pages do, including FairFacts.

FCPS sends up to a dozen emails and texts PER DAY to families. It is an impossible and almost insurmountable amount of information for most busy families to sift through. Additionally, the FCPS website is a rabbit hole, where it is nearly impossible to find the information you need unless you are very familiar with the website, and even then it can be difficult.

All of the community pages that I have seen, including FairFacts, are run by people willing and able to sift through the emails and information sent by FCPS, and present it in one easy to read and find spot. They are updating their neighborhoods about community engagement opportunities, everything from committees, boundary meetings and school board meetings, how to sign up or where to go. They are sharing email addresses for school board members and chain of command positions in FCPS, so people can easily contact their elected officials. They are providing an organized way for people to connect and network with their neighbors and community.

Mostly, these sites are informing neighbors, taxpayers and constituents about a local political, school based issue that has the potential to significantly impact their children, community and financial stability. They are spreading daylight to taxpayers who might not be aware otherwise.

How can you have any issues with informed, involved citizens sharing information with their neighbors and holding elected representatives accountable?

If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

[Anonymous]

If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

+1 Your whole post is excellent.
I think the PP to whom you are responding is not "bored," but afraid for others to get information.

[Anonymous]

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If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

+1 Your whole post is excellent.
I think the PP to whom you are responding is not "bored," but afraid for others to get information.

Agreed. The sb shills are afraid and are getting called out by families that are starting to pay attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

+1 Your whole post is excellent.
I think the PP to whom you are responding is not "bored," but afraid for others to get information.

Agreed. The sb shills are afraid and are getting called out by families that are starting to pay attention.

Pay attention. IDC. This is our last year in this system. But parent preference for property values should not be a consideration. Period. (NP, also).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a new poster. For me it is about property value. I also am slightly worried about friendships with kids, but where I grew up many of us kids didn’t have continuity between ES to MS to HS in how our neighborhoods were zoned in 1980s (not in VA was OOS), and it was fine. I also sense it will be grandfathered for HS kid and ok I’m if it won’t for ES kid.

But yeah, it’s the economy stupid! That’s the motivator for my preference and when I talk with friends. Let’s be honest. Money is important as that determines my retirement plans. And changing school zoning could impact those plans.

And I’m ok with boundary changes as they do need to be aligned overall better. But to deny my concerns about financial implications or others is flawed thinking.

Too funny that it turns out that the ones who care about property value are okay with boundary changes. Total 180 on OP’s claim.

Property value will increase or decrease based on which side of the boundary change you're on. It's a wash to the county/sb whether those property tax funds are coming from you or your neighbor. Only the homeowner cares about their own property values.

With some moves yes. With other, it may bring everyone down. Try to fill MVHS is a way that doesn't also make the school losing students substantially worse.

You don't hear much about MVHS changing. A move from Langley to Herndon, yes that would be a huge drop.

In that case Langley would still be fine. If you pull students from Hayfield or West Potomac to MVHS, then Hayfield or West Potomac has their FARMS rate jump

Ha, sure, all those who get to remain at Langley.

You’ll be fine at Herndon once you get over the perceived loss of status associated with a Langley address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

+1 Your whole post is excellent.
I think the PP to whom you are responding is not "bored," but afraid for others to get information.

Agreed. The sb shills are afraid and are getting called out by families that are starting to pay attention.

Information 🤣🤣🤣 you really love your aggrieved echo chamber

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

+1 Your whole post is excellent.
I think the PP to whom you are responding is not "bored," but afraid for others to get information.

Agreed. The sb shills are afraid and are getting called out by families that are starting to pay attention.

Pay attention. IDC. This is our last year in this system. But parent preference for property values should not be a consideration. Period. (NP, also).

Every taxpayer and property owner should care and it certainly should factor into rezoning. Our homes are so expensive and many people's biggest asset.

Every single person knew exactly what schools they were zoned for when they purchased their homes.

Many people prioritized paying more, a lot more, to attend specific schools.

Many others purposely paid less for a bigger house, knowing that the cheaper price was directly because of the high school it was zoned for.

Both groups made conscious decisions. Now you wast to use other people's kids to raise your own property values.

How dare you say that housing stability should not impact rezoning.

Rezoning should be as minimal as possible, and only after all other options have been exhausted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a new poster. For me it is about property value. I also am slightly worried about friendships with kids, but where I grew up many of us kids didn’t have continuity between ES to MS to HS in how our neighborhoods were zoned in 1980s (not in VA was OOS), and it was fine. I also sense it will be grandfathered for HS kid and ok I’m if it won’t for ES kid.

But yeah, it’s the economy stupid! That’s the motivator for my preference and when I talk with friends. Let’s be honest. Money is important as that determines my retirement plans. And changing school zoning could impact those plans.

And I’m ok with boundary changes as they do need to be aligned overall better. But to deny my concerns about financial implications or others is flawed thinking.

Too funny that it turns out that the ones who care about property value are okay with boundary changes. Total 180 on OP’s claim.

Property value will increase or decrease based on which side of the boundary change you're on. It's a wash to the county/sb whether those property tax funds are coming from you or your neighbor. Only the homeowner cares about their own property values.

With some moves yes. With other, it may bring everyone down. Try to fill MVHS is a way that doesn't also make the school losing students substantially worse.

You don't hear much about MVHS changing. A move from Langley to Herndon, yes that would be a huge drop.

In that case Langley would still be fine. If you pull students from Hayfield or West Potomac to MVHS, then Hayfield or West Potomac has their FARMS rate jump

Ha, sure, all those who get to remain at Langley.

You’ll be fine at Herndon once you get over the perceived loss of status associated with a Langley address.

Sb shills like to minimize the sb sabotaging Fairfax families. It’s what you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

+1 Your whole post is excellent.
I think the PP to whom you are responding is not "bored," but afraid for others to get information.

Agreed. The sb shills are afraid and are getting called out by families that are starting to pay attention.

Pay attention. IDC. This is our last year in this system. But parent preference for property values should not be a consideration. Period. (NP, also).

You are barking up the wrong tree. Sure, there may be some who are concerned about property values, but most choose a house because of the school. Ask any realtor. We chose our house because of proximity to elementary school. I wanted a community school. We got it. We also have a close high school that is up for redistricting because it is crowded. And, we could get shifted to one further away. When you have no family in the area, the community closeness is important.
It sounds like you want to ignore that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you are tired of this discussion, close this thread and walk away.

You don't need to read what you don't want to hear.

You have no right to shut down the free speech of others just because you don't agree with them or don't want to hear it.

Just stop reading. The solution is simple.

+1 Your whole post is excellent.
I think the PP to whom you are responding is not "bored," but afraid for others to get information.

Agreed. The sb shills are afraid and are getting called out by families that are starting to pay attention.

Pay attention. IDC. This is our last year in this system. But parent preference for property values should not be a consideration. Period. (NP, also).

Every taxpayer and property owner should care and it certainly should factor into rezoning. Our homes are so expensive and many people's biggest asset.

Every single person knew exactly what schools they were zoned for when they purchased their homes.

Many people prioritized paying more, a lot more, to attend specific schools.

Many others purposely paid less for a bigger house, knowing that the cheaper price was directly because of the high school it was zoned for.

Both groups made conscious decisions. Now you wast to use other people's kids to raise your own property values.

How dare you say that housing stability should not impact rezoning.

Rezoning should be as minimal as possible, and only after all other options have been exhausted.

+1. Well said.