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Anonymous
| *alarm always being on. |
Anonymous
It is written to be intentionally misleading. These are adjacent apartment complexes and they lived there at different times, so no they were not immediate or next-door neighbors and that stupid "article" does even not say that Wint lived in the 5301 complex at the same time that the Wallace family lived in the 5303 complex. Therefore, I conclude that he did not live there at the same time because if he had this "journalist" certainly would have said so. Okay, don't believe me and ignore the different dates and all the other evidence to the contrary. The biggest evidence that Wallace Jordan is not involved is that no other media have picked up this story. There is only this severely flawed Thayer piece and the equally flawed Emily Miller piece that is nothing but innuendo. The fact that no other legitimate media and not even the Daily Mail has picked up the story tells me the real reporters who check with the police before running with a speculative story have been told by the police that Jordan Wallace was not involved. |
Anonymous
And your factual evidence does NOT show them ever being neighbors. It does not show them living in neighboring apartment complexes at the same time. |
Anonymous
Again, from the Post: "Police documents show that he [Jordan Wallace] was at a hardware store near the Chantilly studio in western Fairfax County from 11:30 a.m. to noon May 14 and was still in Virginia when 911 calls came later that afternoon about the fire 30 miles away in the District." The fire was called in at 1:15. JW was in Chantilly, so he was not in the Porsche on NY Avenue at 1:30. The police know exactly where he was all day because he was receiving and sending calls and texts all day from SS, AIW, NG, and God knows who else, so his phone records including his locations have been thoroughly analyzed by the police. And he wasn't pissed at SS. He was obviously very stoked about his new job, as evidenced by his over-sharing of photos and details in his brag texts and posts. |
Anonymous
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JW was probably worried about how he was going to pay for his planned racing trips to CA and Italy. I bet he wasn't thrilled that he wasn't PS's paid racing coach. Didn't he provide that service until the family hired a professional coach.
It does appear he was in Chantilly but he didn't answer the calls from SS did he? Why did he lie about when SS called him to pick up the money? Why would he lie about how he got the money? Why did he lie about how he dropped off the money? He did all this after he knew the family was dead. Hmmm. |
Anonymous
His new job at AIW as SS' assistant was a much better job than go-kart coach. He was thrilled about the new job, hence the brag posts and pictures. He did answer calls from SS. He talked to him at 11:54, the last call SS made. He was at Lowe's in Chantilly. Then JW called SS later and got no answer. Yes. He lied to police about the details. I suspect he was on the defensive about why he had not figured out that there was something very suspicious about an urgent mission to pick up cash and leave it in the car rather than delivering it personally to SS. Because of the lies, the police have thoroughly investigated him. |
Anonymous
Well, I think you're a terrible detective. Jordan Wallace's dad, according to this aforementioned website, shows Jordan Wallace's father lived there (in 2 different units) from 1998 to 2009. To repeat, this kid's dad lived there for over a decade. Now let's imagine little Jordan made friends in the neighborhood. Of course he did! And imagine even after his pops moved out, he would still have reason to visit said friends! It was his old, familiar neighborhood! This is quite a big coincidence to be nothing. If you mapquest Mike Wallace's apt #11, that specific unit is on the very edge closest and up against the other complex. Can't determine where Wint's T2 apt is at the Carrollan Gardens apts, but the idea of overlapping friends, parties... Even if the exact dates of living don't mesh, their lives are too close to be a coincidence. Too close. I was a big supporter of the assistant on here, especially after seeing his YouTube video. But I can't get past all the circumstantial evidence anymore. It's too much. I agree with a pp that Wallace was enraged and jealous of Phillip the son, and the income disparity. He was certainly focused on haves vs havenots, which is a very ugly and dangerous slope to be on. He was enamored with the 'glamour' of racing and publicly juxtaposed himself as 'broke' yet 'chasing the glamour and lifestyle of a Racecar driver'. Savapolous was handed his rich life to him, his children would as well, and Jordan Wallace saw this as unfair. A heist was a morally ept, justifiable action. Savvas would never even miss the money or hurt from it. If Wint performed, Wallace could be a seemingly innocent accomplice. Could keep his job, even. |
Anonymous
| When did Wint live there? That is his 2015 address, not his 2004-2009 address. |
Anonymous
| There is no evidence that they knew each other. The police have checked both of them. If there was any contact whatsoever between them it would have been detected by now. Living in nearby apartment complexes at different times, and in Wallace's case not in the past six years, is not evidence of anything. |
Anonymous
-----> Where is original post for this commentary? This just landed in a discussion about Jordan Wallace. I am so impressed with friends of Savopolous family. They are been totally appropriate in their silence and forming a shield around those poor girls. My heart goes out to the family and all who know them. May they find peace and feel God's loving arms around them. |
Anonymous
Doesn't prove that he wasn't involved nor does any of the above speculation prove that he was - he could have been creating an alibi. There's no way to know for sure one way or another given the very limited information that we have. We do know that he lied and that it is very likely he and Wint knew each other. Still not enough to reasonably take a position either way. |
Anonymous
| I do not think when you are grief stricken you have a sudden overwhelming urge to speak out to members of the media. |
Anonymous
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/3135/471170.page |
Anonymous
| To those of you who knew the family, are you going to the funeral? I was an aquaintance of Amy's and was originally going to go. I thought it might help to come to some type of closure. However, I am also trying not to focus or obsess about it so I'm now thinking I won't go. Also, I think the media will be there and it will be a zoo. If you were a casual friend, are you going? |
Anonymous
---> I'm feeling uncertain about JW involvement but it would make sense that he more than Wint or others would know more about the family movements like PS being home from school, the garage usually being open and unlocked, etc. If he was involved, even if it were just as little as talking big over a few beers, I suspect that murder and arson weren't in any plan he was part of. Washington Post wrote on May 20: On May 15, the day after the killings, the personal assistant called the veteran American Iron Works employee’s cellphone “and was crying,” according to the police documents. The assistant “stated that he had dropped off a package” at the Savopoulos house on May 14, on his way to Chantilly, the documents say. I doubt this plan was concocted over $40,000, especially if it had to be divided -- whomever was involved, it was probably to extort more like a million. As someone wrote previously, these guys weren't overly sophisticated, and Wint probably didn't know that you can't just withdraw thousands of dollars from your account at the drop of a hat. When only $40k was available Wint probably Assumed SS was holding back, and thought he could get more with torture. You know SS would have given them anything to save his family, especially his precious son. My guess is things got out of hand out of frustration. -- Wint sounds like a guy with clinical anger management issues. Although maybe I'm wrong because they had brought gasoline and that seems like planning for arson. Or maybe there was a canister of gas in the garage. If JW drove the Porsche how did he get to the house? Where was his car? Did Wint and his crew get dropped off? I doubt they rode the N4 bus up Mass Ave to perpetrate this crime. Wonder if LE or found strange cars in the neighborhood? Out of respect, I think we shouldn't post this afternoon, during funeral and burial. RIP dear family. |