Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/hayfield-football-coach-denies-recruiting-accusations-claims-team-being-targeted-hayfield-investigation-vhsl-virginia-high-school-league-playoffs-hawks-national-district-dmv-sports

Doubling down just like Reid. This will end badly for this guy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The court documents leaked on Asra Nomani’s X page, don’t look good for the Principal or Coach.

Kinda funny how neither one of them noticed all the transfers! Shouldn't the principal be on top of that? And the head of security didn't notice his former players in the hallways until they showed up in his weight room? Was he even doing that job?

To be fair, he was too busy hiring coaches who would later offer drugs to minors to notice all these new kids on campus.

The coach you are talking about was an ex division 1 football player, with a decent job, and reputation in the community before that incident. He could have gotten a volunteer coaching at at any other high school football program in the state. He was well qualified for the position.

So, for you, well qualified means a history of the same type of behavior at multiple schools. His first school, where he was an assistant coach, benefited from his recruiting, but he was also shielded by his former high school head coach, who was the head coach of that school at the time and was also a VHSL Hall of Fame head coach. At is second school, where Overton was head coach, he brought in players from all over the place, as far south as Fredericksburg/Spotsylvania and north from Alexandria/Fairfax. All went to Freedom High School. He has been recruiting for 10+year or more from all over northern Virginia and Fredericksburg areas. He has been using the homeless and shared address stuff during this time. He was “protected” in PWCS because they knew this would blow up in their face and did not want it to get out the way it has now in FCPS.

A good coach can have all the pedigree they need and also know the X’s and O’s Better than anyone. When you resort to recruiting against the league rules that most other teams follow, and to the level of which he did said recruiting this football season, you are no longer a good coach. You have become an outed cheater who coaches football. Had he done things the right way all along, he would garner greater respect for being a good coach. As it stands, he is simply a cheater who is setting a poor example for the players he coaches.

Please never say someone with shady morals, whose behavior has brought shame to the school he coaches at and to the county he works in, a good coach. No good coach would need to do what he has done.

To be fair, this thread wasn't about Overton but about another criminal on the Hayfraud staff, Demetrius Amerson. But it is totally understandable that you got confused considering the sheer volume of criminal activity committed by Hayfraud coaches/players/administrators etc...

https://wjla.com/news/local/hayfield-secondary-school-coach-prince-william-county-smoke-marijuana-arrested-demetrius-amerson-student-16-year-old-meet-up-misdemeanor-contributing-delinquency-minor-virginia-crime-fcps-dmv

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The court documents leaked on Asra Nomani’s X page, don’t look good for the Principal or Coach.

Kinda funny how neither one of them noticed all the transfers! Shouldn't the principal be on top of that? And the head of security didn't notice his former players in the hallways until they showed up in his weight room? Was he even doing that job?

Isn’t the head of security a “paper pusher” type of job in some office? He would direct the security guards to go out in the field and interact with the students. So he could argue he never saw his former players. I don’t know, but I’m trying to see if there’s some reasonable defense there.

Ms. Reid could argue in her defense that this is all news to her, and that she went by the legal playbook FCPS uses for dealing with sensitive matters.

Didn't a female administrator try to bring up something similar and they transferred her to Annandale?

Yes, the Fairfax Times mentioned her by name. She was punished and sent to Annandale HS. She had gone to Hayfield herself and wanted her kids to go to.

Is that a legitimate way to attend a school for which you are not zoned - having a parent employed there?

You aren't trying to disparage her, are you? She stood up for what was right and got punished for it. She and the mom and the kid on the team who spoke up are heroes to me. Look at how large of a contingent of minions the coach has. Go read the crap they write about these people. They're such morally corrupt people but they constantly refer to God as being on their side.

Sounds like what our country has become-corrupt and morally bankrupt....but GOD will save them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/hayfield-football-coach-denies-recruiting-accusations-claims-team-being-targeted-hayfield-investigation-vhsl-virginia-high-school-league-playoffs-hawks-national-district-dmv-sports

Doubling down just like Reid. This will end badly for this guy.

As it should. The same should happen to all those who tried to prop him up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Staff were told at the luncheon that speaking about things would have a negative impact on our evaluations .
Yes, I work at Hayfield.

Not everyone at Hayfield is of the mindset that this was proper. Hayfield is so much more than this football team and athletics department. We are a very diverse school, no ethnicity group makes up a majority of the population and we have over 50 different home languages spoken by our students and staff.

We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either.

"We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either."

Sadly, you are now. It is unfortunate you do not realize that. And frankly you deserve to be. The entire staff is complicit in this. You all knew what was going on, and so many of you decided to do nothing. Had even a small minority spoken up from the outset this all could have been avoided. Shame on you.

Speaking as a teacher at a school where multiple staff have formally complained about the principal and the principal was even investigated by the county and reinstated, this isn’t close to being true. You can see how a district will cover up for their own people- Hayfield staff could’ve complained and voiced this plenty and been completely ignored by the district. That’s how it works.

Not sure what happened in your school but the Hayfield staff is complicit and let this happen. If these alleged Federal crimes of homeless students did happen, then the reporting could have gone outside of the school system where these things are properly handled. Short of that, the way things are shaking out, an anonymous tip to the media or VHSL could have moved things along sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/hayfield-football-coach-denies-recruiting-accusations-claims-team-being-targeted-hayfield-investigation-vhsl-virginia-high-school-league-playoffs-hawks-national-district-dmv-sports

Wow! This guy is digging his own grave. He better hope he's not lying because the hammer is gonna come down a lot harder if he is. My money is on Fritts taking a plea to bring this whole house of cards down!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Staff were told at the luncheon that speaking about things would have a negative impact on our evaluations .
Yes, I work at Hayfield.

Not everyone at Hayfield is of the mindset that this was proper. Hayfield is so much more than this football team and athletics department. We are a very diverse school, no ethnicity group makes up a majority of the population and we have over 50 different home languages spoken by our students and staff.

We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either.

"We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either."

Sadly, you are now. It is unfortunate you do not realize that. And frankly you deserve to be. The entire staff is complicit in this. You all knew what was going on, and so many of you decided to do nothing. Had even a small minority spoken up from the outset this all could have been avoided. Shame on you.

Speaking as a teacher at a school where multiple staff have formally complained about the principal and the principal was even investigated by the county and reinstated, this isn’t close to being true. You can see how a district will cover up for their own people- Hayfield staff could’ve complained and voiced this plenty and been completely ignored by the district. That’s how it works.

+1. There are tons of threads on this board where this happened at various schools across the county. As for teachers getting dinged on their evaluations, not everyone is on summative evaluations this year and many who are probably had their initial meetings before everything really came out in the open. Usually those are done by the AP overseeing the department in high schools, not by the principal directly. It speaks volumes about this guy's leadership if he actually threatened such a thing at a staff meeting. I hope someone got a recording.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Staff were told at the luncheon that speaking about things would have a negative impact on our evaluations .
Yes, I work at Hayfield.

Not everyone at Hayfield is of the mindset that this was proper. Hayfield is so much more than this football team and athletics department. We are a very diverse school, no ethnicity group makes up a majority of the population and we have over 50 different home languages spoken by our students and staff.

We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either.

"We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either."

Sadly, you are now. It is unfortunate you do not realize that. And frankly you deserve to be. The entire staff is complicit in this. You all knew what was going on, and so many of you decided to do nothing. Had even a small minority spoken up from the outset this all could have been avoided. Shame on you.

No one on this planet believes that. PP would have been chased out of her job like others.

Really? Where do you think Asra is getting her info from now? Had Hayfield staff started spilling the beans earlier (and more intelligently - who in a govt. job goes to HR to complain?) this could have been squashed in August.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/hayfield-football-coach-denies-recruiting-accusations-claims-team-being-targeted-hayfield-investigation-vhsl-virginia-high-school-league-playoffs-hawks-national-district-dmv-sports

Wow! This guy is digging his own grave. He better hope he's not lying because the hammer is gonna come down a lot harder if he is. My money is on Fritts taking a plea to bring this whole house of cards down!

Narrator: "He's lying"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Staff were told at the luncheon that speaking about things would have a negative impact on our evaluations .
Yes, I work at Hayfield.

Not everyone at Hayfield is of the mindset that this was proper. Hayfield is so much more than this football team and athletics department. We are a very diverse school, no ethnicity group makes up a majority of the population and we have over 50 different home languages spoken by our students and staff.

We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either.

"We are not perfect, but we are not defined by this scandal either."

Sadly, you are now. It is unfortunate you do not realize that. And frankly you deserve to be. The entire staff is complicit in this. You all knew what was going on, and so many of you decided to do nothing. Had even a small minority spoken up from the outset this all could have been avoided. Shame on you.

Speaking as a teacher at a school where multiple staff have formally complained about the principal and the principal was even investigated by the county and reinstated, this isn’t close to being true. You can see how a district will cover up for their own people- Hayfield staff could’ve complained and voiced this plenty and been completely ignored by the district. That’s how it works.

Not sure what happened in your school but the Hayfield staff is complicit and let this happen. If these alleged Federal crimes of homeless students did happen, then the reporting could have gone outside of the school system where these things are properly handled. Short of that, the way things are shaking out, an anonymous tip to the media or VHSL could have moved things along sooner rather than later.

+50

They're all complicit in this. As are the parents who sat on the hiring board that let Overton get hired in the first place.

[Anonymous]

I'd bet that Reid is using the Thanksgiving break to carefully reading her contract to see if she keeps her outrageous salary when she's fired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The court documents leaked on Asra Nomani’s X page, don’t look good for the Principal or Coach.

Kinda funny how neither one of them noticed all the transfers! Shouldn't the principal be on top of that? And the head of security didn't notice his former players in the hallways until they showed up in his weight room? Was he even doing that job?

To be fair, he was too busy hiring coaches who would later offer drugs to minors to notice all these new kids on campus.

The coach you are talking about was an ex division 1 football player, with a decent job, and reputation in the community before that incident. He could have gotten a volunteer coaching at at any other high school football program in the state. He was well qualified for the position.

So, for you, well qualified means a history of the same type of behavior at multiple schools. His first school, where he was an assistant coach, benefited from his recruiting, but he was also shielded by his former high school head coach, who was the head coach of that school at the time and was also a VHSL Hall of Fame head coach. At is second school, where Overton was head coach, he brought in players from all over the place, as far south as Fredericksburg/Spotsylvania and north from Alexandria/Fairfax. All went to Freedom High School. He has been recruiting for 10+year or more from all over northern Virginia and Fredericksburg areas. He has been using the homeless and shared address stuff during this time. He was “protected” in PWCS because they knew this would blow up in their face and did not want it to get out the way it has now in FCPS.

A good coach can have all the pedigree they need and also know the X’s and O’s Better than anyone. When you resort to recruiting against the league rules that most other teams follow, and to the level of which he did said recruiting this football season, you are no longer a good coach. You have become an outed cheater who coaches football. Had he done things the right way all along, he would garner greater respect for being a good coach. As it stands, he is simply a cheater who is setting a poor example for the players he coaches.

Please never say someone with shady morals, whose behavior has brought shame to the school he coaches at and to the county he works in, a good coach. No good coach would need to do what he has done.

To be fair, this thread wasn't about Overton but about another criminal on the Hayfraud staff, Demetrius Amerson. But it is totally understandable that you got confused considering the sheer volume of criminal activity committed by Hayfraud coaches/players/administrators etc...

https://wjla.com/news/local/hayfield-secondary-school-coach-prince-william-county-smoke-marijuana-arrested-demetrius-amerson-student-16-year-old-meet-up-misdemeanor-contributing-delinquency-minor-virginia-crime-fcps-dmv

That interview is just a shout out reminder that he is and will be untouchable and will sue if fired. My position from start is leave him because he will leave. That way no further lawsuit or $ spent on him. Focus on getting rid of principal and a superintendents that let this happen. They not only knew but covered up. So believe the bigger issue here now is not the coach but the lengths to which Reid and School Hoard go to cover up.

[Anonymous]

Sincerely, doubt that the superintendent will be leaving. The ones who should leave are the high-level administrators who consistently lie to her, give her false information, and do anything and everything to keep their positions. We can only hope that they are booted out of the county. Having Monty be the scapegoat is a bad mistake. Anyone who knows how the division works understands that the athletic director does not hire anyone. Hiring is done by the principal, generally with approval of the assistant superintendent for the region.

[Anonymous]

If any of the Hayfield staff or students were made to feel that they couldn't speak up about this, that should be investigated as well.

[Anonymous]

Fire or re assign the Principal and Overton’s coaching contract can be non renewed for no reason at all. Same thing that happened to Coach Aziz. Coaching contracts are year to year with no cause needed for non renewal.

The Assistant Superintendent and Principal are the ones that they will need documentation in order to remove. They would need less to simply reassign them.