FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can the public attend the Boundary Review Advisory Committee meetings?

You can't.

I am paraphasing, but Dr. Reid said because the committee purpose is to advise the superintendent, it is exempt from public scrutiny and FOIA requests.

Someone probably knows the exact quote.

If you want to be informed, join one of your community Facebook groups.

Fair Facts is one of the main ones. They are well established and well informed. Their eventual purpose appears to be fighting rezoning, witn lawsuits if necessary.

Many of the local elementary neighborhoods have smaller private groups, focused on advocating against rezoning and sharing information. I believe most of the WSHS neighborhoods have put together various groups. There is at least one in the middle of Fairfax (I think a Woodson elementary school feeder) and a few others.

Talk to your neighbirs to find your page.

They are mostly at the elementary neighborhood, because that is where rezoning will impact the high school rezoning.

Ideally this decision will be the basis for a lawsuit that will torpedo the whole thing once it's over. It's pretty cavalier for local government to blatantly ignore open meeting laws

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

Once again: most want to stay where they are. Some want to pull others away from the schools they like.

I learned a lot from the South Lakes Boundary Study. One PTA picked winners and losers. The same type of people who are on the "committee."

This is not about capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

+1,000

Vouchers will never be a reality in Virginia because they are really about cutting costs not school choice. The state government offers a $10K voucher instead of contributing $12 to $15K to the public school. We’ll never see a Virginia-wide voucher program that can cover even 1/3 the tuition of a good school in Northern Virginia. Additionally, in nearly all instances, when state-wide vouchers are implemented, tuition at decent private schools increases by 50 to 80% of the value of the voucher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

+1,000

Vouchers will never be a reality in Virginia because they are really about cutting costs not school choice. The state government offers a $10K voucher instead of contributing $12 to $15K to the public school. We’ll never see a Virginia-wide voucher program that can cover even 1/3 the tuition of a good school in Northern Virginia. Additionally, in nearly all instances, when state-wide vouchers are implemented, tuition at decent private schools increases by 50 to 80% of the value of the voucher.

Your reasoning doesn’t support your introductory claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

+1,000

Vouchers will never be a reality in Virginia because they are really about cutting costs not school choice. The state government offers a $10K voucher instead of contributing $12 to $15K to the public school. We’ll never see a Virginia-wide voucher program that can cover even 1/3 the tuition of a good school in Northern Virginia. Additionally, in nearly all instances, when state-wide vouchers are implemented, tuition at decent private schools increases by 50 to 80% of the value of the voucher.

The free market would work well here. Northern Virginia parents
A) have the money to make up the difference in cost - vouchers were never meant to fully cover tuition costs which is why poor children don't use them
B) are type A enough to demand any new schools that crop up are worth the money.

So even if the big privates increase prices, there will be others to fill in the gap. Not everyone who can afford privates now want to deal with the type of environment found in the current schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

+1,000

Vouchers will never be a reality in Virginia because they are really about cutting costs not school choice. The state government offers a $10K voucher instead of contributing $12 to $15K to the public school. We’ll never see a Virginia-wide voucher program that can cover even 1/3 the tuition of a good school in Northern Virginia. Additionally, in nearly all instances, when state-wide vouchers are implemented, tuition at decent private schools increases by 50 to 80% of the value of the voucher.

The free market would work well here. Northern Virginia parents
A) have the money to make up the difference in cost - vouchers were never meant to fully cover tuition costs which is why poor children don't use them
B) are type A enough to demand any new schools that crop up are worth the money.

So even if the big privates increase prices, there will be others to fill in the gap. Not everyone who can afford privates now want to deal with the type of environment found in the current schools.

As to A), if tuition increases by the amount of the voucher, it's a wash
As to B), the admission rates of the good privates has always been low and we haven't seen a legitimate new entry in decades. People underestimate how much facilities matter and building a school from scratch in NOVA is a non starter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

+1,000

Vouchers will never be a reality in Virginia because they are really about cutting costs not school choice. The state government offers a $10K voucher instead of contributing $12 to $15K to the public school. We’ll never see a Virginia-wide voucher program that can cover even 1/3 the tuition of a good school in Northern Virginia. Additionally, in nearly all instances, when state-wide vouchers are implemented, tuition at decent private schools increases by 50 to 80% of the value of the voucher.

Your reasoning doesn’t support your introductory claim.

People argue against vouchers based on its impact on schools without realizing that impact is the goal of the program. Yes, everything PP listed is a foreseeable consequence, but hurting public school is a feature not a bug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big committee to tackle a problem being solved by declining population in K-12, coupled with shifts to private schools and kids being home schooled.

Which will only accelerate if they make boundary changes that local residents oppose. Over the last decade the School Board has shown a real knack for driving people away from FCPS.

They don't care as long as our tax dollars are flowing for them to squander away. The solution to this sb is vouchers so that the parent's tax money moves with their kids to private schools.

The upcoming boundary changes will make vouchers a reality.

+1,000

Vouchers will never be a reality in Virginia because they are really about cutting costs not school choice. The state government offers a $10K voucher instead of contributing $12 to $15K to the public school. We’ll never see a Virginia-wide voucher program that can cover even 1/3 the tuition of a good school in Northern Virginia. Additionally, in nearly all instances, when state-wide vouchers are implemented, tuition at decent private schools increases by 50 to 80% of the value of the voucher.

Your reasoning doesn’t support your introductory claim.

People argue against vouchers based on its impact on schools without realizing that impact is the goal of the program. Yes, everything PP listed is a foreseeable consequence, but hurting public school is a feature not a bug.

Yeah, but the first assertion was: “Vouchers will never be a reality in Virginia…” The non-Fairfax portion of Virginia would like a word. It’s much closer to being a reality than most Fairfax residents realize.

Glad that the school board will likely hit the “find out” portion of the boundary review.

[Anonymous]

There is a woman who testified that they need to move students in the name of lower SES families. She also recently testified that the SB should not move her kids’ ES to a different pyramid.

She is one of the worst hypocrites I’ve ever seen. It speaks volumes about the whole boundary review process. No one wants their kids moved, not even the far left parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a woman who testified that they need to move students in the name of lower SES families. She also recently testified that the SB should not move her kids’ ES to a different pyramid.

She is one of the worst hypocrites I’ve ever seen. It speaks volumes about the whole boundary review process. No one wants their kids moved, not even the far left parents.

I think she is on the boundary committee. One of the high school pyramids that has three reps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a woman who testified that they need to move students in the name of lower SES families. She also recently testified that the SB should not move her kids’ ES to a different pyramid.

She is one of the worst hypocrites I’ve ever seen. It speaks volumes about the whole boundary review process. No one wants their kids moved, not even the far left parents.

I think she is on the boundary committee. One of the high school pyramids that has three reps.

I wonder how someone can sleep at night advocating to sabotage other families’ school decisions while also pushing to protect her own. It’s gotta weigh on one’s conscience to betray one’s own values like that.