Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.
so it actually was corporate greed
As we all said.
As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.
I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.
The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).
We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.
So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?
You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?
I have say. I walk away.
You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.
In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.
Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.
I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?
Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.
Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.
Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.
The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.
I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.
What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?
What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.
Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.
I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.
I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.
I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.
Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.
It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.
If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?
If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?
None of your response makes any sense.
Companies have no business figuring out health insurance and we have a bunch of employees and expense dealing with it that have nothing to do with our business
We don’t have any of those people (maybe 1/2 an employee) dealing with this stuff in Canada.
Tell us how great Canada's health system is. If you're a person with any means, you're jumping the border rather than wait for Canada to fit you in for hospitalization, surgery or major medical. You'll be dead by the time they get to you.
For almost three decades, the Fraser Institute has surveyed specialist physicians across 12 specialties and 10 provinces, in order to document the queues for visits to specialists and for diagnostic and surgical procedures in Canada.
The latest edition of Waiting Your Turn, released in December, indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have increased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 27.4 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 25.6 weeks reported in 2021. This year’s wait time is the longest wait time recorded in this survey’s history and is 195% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.
There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait—20.3 weeks—while Prince Edward Island reports the longest—64.7 weeks. There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and neurosurgical procedures (58.9 weeks), while those waiting for radiation treatments begin treatment in 3.9 weeks.
Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.
so it actually was corporate greed
As we all said.
As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.
I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.
The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).
We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.
So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?
You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?
I have say. I walk away.
You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.
In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.
Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.
I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?
Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.
Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.
Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.
The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.
I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.
What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?
What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.
Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.
I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.
I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.
I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.
Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.
It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.
If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?
If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?
None of your response makes any sense.
Companies have no business figuring out health insurance and we have a bunch of employees and expense dealing with it that have nothing to do with our business
We don’t have any of those people (maybe 1/2 an employee) dealing with this stuff in Canada.
Tell us how great Canada's health system is. If you're a person with any means, you're jumping the border rather than wait for Canada to fit you in for hospitalization, surgery or major medical. You'll be dead by the time they get to you.
You are missing the point…this is about US business…I don’t care about wait times, I care about getting out of the business of providing healthcare.
But to your point, our Toronto employees have few problems. The urban healthcare system is great…it’s our employees in the hinterlands of New Brunswick that care.
Anonymous wrote:For almost three decades, the Fraser Institute has surveyed specialist physicians across 12 specialties and 10 provinces, in order to document the queues for visits to specialists and for diagnostic and surgical procedures in Canada.
The latest edition of Waiting Your Turn, released in December, indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have increased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 27.4 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 25.6 weeks reported in 2021. This year’s wait time is the longest wait time recorded in this survey’s history and is 195% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks.
There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait—20.3 weeks—while Prince Edward Island reports the longest—64.7 weeks. There is also a great deal of variation among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and neurosurgical procedures (58.9 weeks), while those waiting for radiation treatments begin treatment in 3.9 weeks.
Another one that is missing the point…you are writing a diatribe about the cons of the Canadian healthcare system while our business cares about the cost and administration of the US health insurance market.
Guess what, a bunch of our remote employees in South Dakota have similar problems to the above.
Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.
so it actually was corporate greed
As we all said.
As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.
I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.
The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).
We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.
So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?
You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?
I have say. I walk away.
You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.
In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.
Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.
I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?
Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.
Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.
Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.
The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.
I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.
What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?
What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.
Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.
I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.
I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.
I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.
Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.
It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.
If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?
If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?
None of your response makes any sense.
Companies have no business figuring out health insurance and we have a bunch of employees and expense dealing with it that have nothing to do with our business
We don’t have any of those people (maybe 1/2 an employee) dealing with this stuff in Canada.
Tell us how great Canada's health system is. If you're a person with any means, you're jumping the border rather than wait for Canada to fit you in for hospitalization, surgery or major medical. You'll be dead by the time they get to you.
You are missing the point…this is about US business…I don’t care about wait times, I care about getting out of the business of providing healthcare.
But to your point, our Toronto employees have few problems. The urban healthcare system is great…it’s our employees in the hinterlands of New Brunswick that care.
Oh, should they get out of the business of providing pensions and retirement plans also? No, they sub it out, just like health insurance, short and long term disability, dental, and other benefits.
I sure as hell don't see anything run by the ivory tower bureaucrats and staffers in DC turning out well. They're a disaster.
Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.
so it actually was corporate greed
As we all said.
As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.
I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.
The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).
We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.
So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?
You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?
I have say. I walk away.
You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.
In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.
Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.
I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?
Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.
Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.
Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.
The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.
I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.
What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?
What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.
Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.
I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.
I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.
I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.
Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.
It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.
If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?
If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?
None of your response makes any sense.
Companies have no business figuring out health insurance and we have a bunch of employees and expense dealing with it that have nothing to do with our business
We don’t have any of those people (maybe 1/2 an employee) dealing with this stuff in Canada.
Tell us how great Canada's health system is. If you're a person with any means, you're jumping the border rather than wait for Canada to fit you in for hospitalization, surgery or major medical. You'll be dead by the time they get to you.
You are missing the point…this is about US business…I don’t care about wait times, I care about getting out of the business of providing healthcare.
But to your point, our Toronto employees have few problems. The urban healthcare system is great…it’s our employees in the hinterlands of New Brunswick that care.
Oh, should they get out of the business of providing pensions and retirement plans also? No, they sub it out, just like health insurance, short and long term disability, dental, and other benefits.
I sure as hell don't see anything run by the ivory tower bureaucrats and staffers in DC turning out well. They're a disaster.
We are out of the business of providing defined benefit plans which is why we offer a 401k.
Employers want to give our employees a raise and then tell them go buy your own health insurance just like you purchase your own car insurance…and that’s that.
Food prices are atrocious. Rent is sky high and utilities are through the roof. More people in CC debt than ever in America’s history. We’re on a downward path
Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.
so it actually was corporate greed
As we all said.
As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.
I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.
The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).
We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.
So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?
You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?
I have say. I walk away.
You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.
In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.
Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.
I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?
Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.
Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.
Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.
The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.
I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.
What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?
What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.
Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.
I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.
I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.
I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.
Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.
It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.
If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?
If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?
None of your response makes any sense.
Companies have no business figuring out health insurance and we have a bunch of employees and expense dealing with it that have nothing to do with our business
We don’t have any of those people (maybe 1/2 an employee) dealing with this stuff in Canada.
Tell us how great Canada's health system is. If you're a person with any means, you're jumping the border rather than wait for Canada to fit you in for hospitalization, surgery or major medical. You'll be dead by the time they get to you.
You are missing the point…this is about US business…I don’t care about wait times, I care about getting out of the business of providing healthcare.
But to your point, our Toronto employees have few problems. The urban healthcare system is great…it’s our employees in the hinterlands of New Brunswick that care.
Companies will never get out of health insurance. Even if there was a national healthcare system, some insurance companies would offer a supplemental plan that some employers would offer and pay for as a recruiting edge. That would expand to msot employers pretty quickly. Employers will never be out.
Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.
so it actually was corporate greed
As we all said.
As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.
I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.
The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).
We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.
So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?
You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?
I have say. I walk away.
You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.
In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.
Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.
I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?
Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.
Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.
Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.
The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.
I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.
What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?
What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.
Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.
I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.
I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.
I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.
Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.
It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.
If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?
If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?
None of your response makes any sense.
Companies have no business figuring out health insurance and we have a bunch of employees and expense dealing with it that have nothing to do with our business
We don’t have any of those people (maybe 1/2 an employee) dealing with this stuff in Canada.
Tell us how great Canada's health system is. If you're a person with any means, you're jumping the border rather than wait for Canada to fit you in for hospitalization, surgery or major medical. You'll be dead by the time they get to you.
You are missing the point…this is about US business…I don’t care about wait times, I care about getting out of the business of providing healthcare.
But to your point, our Toronto employees have few problems. The urban healthcare system is great…it’s our employees in the hinterlands of New Brunswick that care.
Oh, should they get out of the business of providing pensions and retirement plans also? No, they sub it out, just like health insurance, short and long term disability, dental, and other benefits.
I sure as hell don't see anything run by the ivory tower bureaucrats and staffers in DC turning out well. They're a disaster.
We are out of the business of providing defined benefit plans which is why we offer a 401k.
Employers want to give our employees a raise and then tell them go buy your own health insurance just like you purchase your own car insurance…and that’s that.
Except it is not. Some employers will see it as a recruiting tool. And it is not like a pension that has ongoing obligations. Health Insurance is one and done.
Canadians are not demanding a U.S. healthcare system of their own. The U.S. system is more expensive and produces the same or worse outcomes in most cases for most people.
The wealthier Canadians simply like having the U.S. system next door.
No, we must not look to the larger picture. Blame Biden! Blame Biden! Blame Biden! Even though pressures ease and even though the Republican Party won’t do anything to fix it, we must maintain our narrow focus and Blame Biden! Just because our economy is doing better than any other developed nation doesn’t mean anything, for we must Blame Biden!
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