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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.
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^^^ your estimation is that of a mental midget.

Government money printing and inflating the money supply is the source of all inflation
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


LOL, ok, I can't even get into the stupid of these two examples. Wow.
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


LOL, ok, I can't even get into the stupid of these two examples. Wow.


If you can't get into it, then stop talking.
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


College prices paid have not been increasing, that is only the sticker prices. Colleges raises prices and then give bigger discounts because people think they are getting more value that way (or brag about the merit aid they got even though all the kids get it.)

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?


What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.

Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.

I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?


What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.

Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.

I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.


You were paying for it before, but it was at the local level subsidizing emergency rooms. At least now, there is some order to it. If you have a better solution, please suggest it.
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?


What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.

Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.

I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.


You were paying for it before, but it was at the local level subsidizing emergency rooms. At least now, there is some order to it. If you have a better solution, please suggest it.


Single payer. ACA exists to subsidize middlemen
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?


What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.

Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.

I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.


I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.

I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.

Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?


What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.

Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.

I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.


You were paying for it before, but it was at the local level subsidizing emergency rooms. At least now, there is some order to it. If you have a better solution, please suggest it.


Single payer. ACA exists to subsidize middlemen


Democrats support single payer.

Republicans do not.

Obama tried to thread the needle thinking he would get GOP support for a GOP plan. He was wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?


What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.

Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.

I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.


I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.

I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.

Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.



It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.

If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?

If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?
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Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden has powerfully brought down the price of eggs. Republicans said it couldn't be done. All they could do was fear the price of eggs. "No eggs for Americans unless they can pay $5 per dozen," they said. There was a large man, very tall. Strong. He heard that the Republicans could do nothing and, with tears in his eye, went to President Biden. "Sir," he said. "My children love eggs." And now those eggs are down to $0.77 per dozen. That man's children will have eggs again, thanks to President Biden and the Democrats. God bless Joe.



so it actually was corporate greed


As we all said.

As all the elected Democrats said and they wanted to pass a law against price gouging, but the GOP blocked it.


I'm glad the GOP blocked price controls.

The seller OWNS the product. I don't want the govt to tell them what they can sell it for. If you don't like the price, LITERALLY, take a hike. No one holds a gun to your head to buy anything (except the govt).

We know you lefties would love to own the means of production (AKA communism), but absent that, you justw ant to control the buyer, seller, transaction and every aspect of our lives. NO.

So you welcome a worse world in which you have no say in anything, ever, for any reason, so long as some wealthy corporation is making bank?

You’re happy to be abused, aren’t you?


I have say. I walk away.

You, on the other hand, subsidize certain groups over other groups and think you're actually making things more "fair". You even label bills with crafty names like the "The Fairness in XXXXXXXXXXX Act" thinking you're doing something wonderful.

In reality, you create more and more dislocations (AKA UNFAIRNESS) in the market because of the intended and unintended consequences of all that idiotic legislation creates situations for one group to hold sway over another with ridiculously rigged and predictable consequences.

Put succintly: the more you do, the worse things get.


I don't know about that. Can you cite specific sources or examples?

Because in my estimation, the price spikes over the past few years have been with things like eggs, baby forumla and gas - and with all three, it has been proven that it was market manipulation or corporate greed as the culprit.


Sure. College education and tuition. The government subsidizes tuition with cheap or even free money, the university or college raises the rate of increase for tuition and fees much higher than inflation because of all that free gubmint money that they can get and no one will object to, least of all the student. Then they say "Wow, this is easy!" Let's raise it even more to sop up even more "free" money. Talk about corporate greed.

Same with healthcare. The government writes the checks, the consumer doesn't object and prices skyrocket to sop up all that "free" tax payer money. Everything the govt subsidizes rises much faster than anything it doesn't becausethe consumer doesn't object. The tax payer just writes checks or Uncle Sham creates more of it out of thin air.

The only greed is half of the US not paying ANY income taxes, so they just want more free money and programs.


I am wondering if you remember what US healthcare insurance was like before the ACA was passed and how pre-existing conditions were not covered and many people used emergency rooms as doctor visits? None of that was sustainable. Obama adopted the GOP "Romneycare" solution. So if you think that is worse than what we had before, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you would prefer the European "single payer" model, in which case, I would agree, but that seems to undermine your assertion that too much government intervention is bad.

What is YOUR solution to health insurance and healthcare for the US?


What's not sustainable is that every person who has health insurance is paying double to triple what they did before ACA for their family and also for a complete stranger.

Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. This was all YOUR doing. My solution is to cancel stupid crap like EMTALA and if you don't pay for your own premiums, you're on your own.

I'm tired of this empathy BS that's turning us into a third-world S-Hole.


I am in finance at a company with significant US and Canadian operations.

I don’t understand why the US business community doesn’t just abandon the US health insurance market and lead the push for health insurance to work like car insurance or push for a single pay system.

Honestly, companies have no business finding and figuring out health insurance for employees and it is so much easier for us in Canada.



It was a benefit through the employer. In other words, you get it for working.

If you get free food, housing, healthcare, clothing, furnishing, transporation, insurance, etc., etc., then what is the point of working?

If no one is working, WHO is going to provide you with services and products?


None of your response makes any sense.

Companies have no business figuring out health insurance and we have a bunch of employees and expense dealing with it that have nothing to do with our business

We don’t have any of those people (maybe 1/2 an employee) dealing with this stuff in Canada.
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