Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

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Anonymous wrote:Check out School Personnel Lost To Covid on Twitter.

It's heartbreaking. There are so many that you wonder how the hell schools are open.

That Twitter account is a good amount of emotional manipulation. When you include as purported school-related covid deaths private music instructors who didn’t work for any schools and a woman who most likely caught it from her elderly father, you’re being pretty disingenuous.

sure go ahead and minimize the teacher deaths. Go through the feed, if you can. A lot of them were working in person in schools. Or just google.

or just keep going and minimize the teacher deaths....

It’s not minimizing teacher deaths, it’s refusing to make policy decisions based on a misleading and manipulative Twitter account. That account doesn’t provide any data, it doesn’t even provide evidence to suggest the teachers contracted the virus at schools (if anything, the stories that had some indication o go where it was likely caught indicates it was somewhere other than the school). All you’re doing by citing to this is to try to shame people into adopting your opinion because you don’t have actual evidence to support it. Those individuals were real people, not just tools for your agenda.

Also, if you’d actually read the feed yourself, you’d see that a lot of them weren’t teachers. But I guess bus drivers aren’t as compelling to you, they’re fungible in your world.

Oh please you're the one minimizing this and yet you claim others don't care about bus drivers? I care about all of them. Apparently you don't.

Without contact tracing of asymptomatic spread which we don't have, you and others will continue the tired narrative that they must have picked this up outside of school. Can't admit schools spread covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey, late to the party and can’t scroll through 33 pages- is the rumor that there will be some kids going back in Jan and Feb? I’ve got a 2nd grader who was floundering with DL, and am trying to figure out if I have to send him away again to his grandparents to facilitate his DL. I had brought him home for the holidays.

Yes in late Jan/Feb but unsure when each grade goes back. Will be announced next week.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Check out School Personnel Lost To Covid on Twitter.

It's heartbreaking. There are so many that you wonder how the hell schools are open.

That Twitter account is a good amount of emotional manipulation. When you include as purported school-related covid deaths private music instructors who didn’t work for any schools and a woman who most likely caught it from her elderly father, you’re being pretty disingenuous.

sure go ahead and minimize the teacher deaths. Go through the feed, if you can. A lot of them were working in person in schools. Or just google.

or just keep going and minimize the teacher deaths....

It’s not minimizing teacher deaths, it’s refusing to make policy decisions based on a misleading and manipulative Twitter account. That account doesn’t provide any data, it doesn’t even provide evidence to suggest the teachers contracted the virus at schools (if anything, the stories that had some indication o go where it was likely caught indicates it was somewhere other than the school). All you’re doing by citing to this is to try to shame people into adopting your opinion because you don’t have actual evidence to support it. Those individuals were real people, not just tools for your agenda.

Also, if you’d actually read the feed yourself, you’d see that a lot of them weren’t teachers. But I guess bus drivers aren’t as compelling to you, they’re fungible in your world.

I haven’t read this twitter account but I really think you are splitting hairs. When people’s health is threatened to the extent it is with Covid 19, and when what we do definitively know about the disease is that it has an aerosol transmission, people are going to have to weigh the risks and costs for themselves. After all, they will have to pay the ultimate price if the odds turn out badly for them, so squabbling about what exactly those odds are seems a bit petty. For my part, until a respected epidemiologist provides some hardcore scientific data that explains to me why school buildings are magically safe spaces of low transmission, I will scoff at your claims that “science” supports opening schools. Public health PHDs and economists crunching woefully incomplete data is not science. That is risk assessment, much like the kind your life insurance agency might do to establish your premium.

Anybody who has suffered or died from this disease has my utmost sympathy. I don’t care what job the person has. What is deplorable to me is how badly managed this pandemic has been by our country’s leaders. I blame the U.S. Senate and a corrupt, incompetent executive branch for gross misconduct. Right now, we are all dealing with the fallout and trying to function as normally as possible, but this is not normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

100% agree with the last poster. The idea that a school board meeting, or central office staff, should be in person to somehow justify opening schools is idiotic. One of these things is not like the other. We need all the contact tracing etc focused on actual school- not chasing down attendees at a school board meeting that could have been in person. Things that are effectively done virtually (like meetings of adults) should continue to be done virtually. Things that are not effectively done virtually (like teaching kids how to read) need to be open and done in person.

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

I am one of the PPs and I was not being facetious. I was in person with students prior to winter break. If it's supposedly safe enough for my coworkers and me to be in a classroom with unmasked students (spoiler alert: it wasn't, because some of us got covid from students), then it's safe enough for the School Board to have in person meetings.

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

100% agree with the last poster. The idea that a school board meeting, or central office staff, should be in person to somehow justify opening schools is idiotic. One of these things is not like the other. We need all the contact tracing etc focused on actual school- not chasing down attendees at a school board meeting that could have been in person. Things that are effectively done virtually (like meetings of adults) should continue to be done virtually. Things that are not effectively done virtually (like teaching kids how to read) need to be open and done in person.

And this is why you both would be lousy leaders. The ones making the decisions need to show that they are equal stakeholders and risk takers in the community. The big problem right now is the faculty’s lack of confidence in leadership. School board members keep harping on ways they can inspire confidence? Well, they need to get in the mud, themselves, if they have any hope of leading the troops there..

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

I am one of the PPs and I was not being facetious. I was in person with students prior to winter break. If it's supposedly safe enough for my coworkers and me to be in a classroom with unmasked students (spoiler alert: it wasn't, because some of us got covid from students), then it's safe enough for the School Board to have in person meetings.

I mean, they don’t have to have their meetings in an office or civic building, for God’s sake. I am sure teachers would be happy to lend them one of their classrooms after hours, so as to minimize the risk of transmission.

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

I am one of the PPs and I was not being facetious. I was in person with students prior to winter break. If it's supposedly safe enough for my coworkers and me to be in a classroom with unmasked students (spoiler alert: it wasn't, because some of us got covid from students), then it's safe enough for the School Board to have in person meetings.

spoiler alert. VDH publishes school outbreaks. THere have been 0 school outbreaks in Arlington. 0. An outbreak means 2 or more cases. Basically you are saying you know better where people contracted COVID than the COVID tracers.

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

I am one of the PPs and I was not being facetious. I was in person with students prior to winter break. If it's supposedly safe enough for my coworkers and me to be in a classroom with unmasked students (spoiler alert: it wasn't, because some of us got covid from students), then it's safe enough for the School Board to have in person meetings.

spoiler alert. VDH publishes school outbreaks. THere have been 0 school outbreaks in Arlington. 0. An outbreak means 2 or more cases. Basically you are saying you know better where people contracted COVID than the COVID tracers.

I'm in FCPS. I'm sure the Arlington schools have some magical anti Covid forcefield that we don't have in Fairfax and no one will get it in schools if they go back in person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

I am one of the PPs and I was not being facetious. I was in person with students prior to winter break. If it's supposedly safe enough for my coworkers and me to be in a classroom with unmasked students (spoiler alert: it wasn't, because some of us got covid from students), then it's safe enough for the School Board to have in person meetings.

I mean, they don’t have to have their meetings in an office or civic building, for God’s sake. I am sure teachers would be happy to lend them one of their classrooms after hours, so as to minimize the risk of transmission.

I like your style! They’ll be safe in the classroom! Of course the school board and central admin and senior leaders should be willing to be in person for their 6 hour meetings and regular work day. 6 feet apart with masks. Just like the teachers and kids they are sending in despite the off the charts metrics. What could go wrong!

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

I am one of the PPs and I was not being facetious. I was in person with students prior to winter break. If it's supposedly safe enough for my coworkers and me to be in a classroom with unmasked students (spoiler alert: it wasn't, because some of us got covid from students), then it's safe enough for the School Board to have in person meetings.

I mean, they don’t have to have their meetings in an office or civic building, for God’s sake. I am sure teachers would be happy to lend them one of their classrooms after hours, so as to minimize the risk of transmission.

Yes. You cannot catch it in schools apparently so they can use my classroom. It has windows which are also magical apparently.

[Anonymous]

Windows! Hooray. Put some stickers on the floor and everyone will be protected. Looking forward to watching the next Board meeting.

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Anonymous wrote:Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.

I don't know if you are APS, but this time line is completely inaccurate now. All will be back in mid Februrary.

I was regretting picking DL and foreclosing any hybrid for the year til I saw this. I hope for the sake of those who did choose hybrid that this isn’t true. This is basically APS caving to APE and the Wash Post. Drama and fear of publicity over science and safety for staff and students. I hope they start to have fully staffed live school board meetings BEFORE they send teachers back to the classroom.

This. AND that all of central office is working in the office, not from home, before they tell us it is "safe" to send our kids into school.

I think they should have to work in schools, with children, first.

Agree 100%. No one should be sent into a classroom until the school board, central offices, and BOS resume all meetings in person. And they have to have lunch together in those same meeting rooms, too.

I realize (hope?) you are all being facetious, it this is just stupid. If we’re going to open schools, we need everyone else taking every measure possible to minimize the risk of transmission so no one catches it at home or at a school board meeting and then brings it into the schools. I support opening schools (hybrid, masks, distancing, etc.), but am also willing to otherwise lock down as much as possible to help keep schools safe (and have been doing so all along so as to not risk contributing to virus spread that would make it more dangerous).

I can’t speak for the other PPs, but I am not being facetious at all when I say I support this 100 percent. If it’s safe enough for teachers and school staff to be in these buildings with children, it’s safe enough for the decision makers.

Then maybe all of the lawyers should be back in the office before grocery store employees have to work in-store. Makes about as much sense.

[Anonymous]

Not a good analogy. But partners should have to go in before they mandate associates and admin staff do.