The Rush to Judge Ilhan Omar

Anonymous
The bigger potential problem for the Representative is her view regarding former President Obama. However, he has a remarkable ability to ignore stupid criticisms directed his way. Many Republicans, by contrast, can’t do that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The bigger potential problem for the Representative is her view regarding former President Obama. However, he has a remarkable ability to ignore stupid criticisms directed his way. Many Republicans, by contrast, can’t do that.


BHO has been uniquely successful in avoiding smart criticisms, especially from Democrats and the putative left. But a hijabi committed to helping the dispossessed and born within 1,000 miles of BHO's father's birthplace is unlikely to be mau-maued by his defenders.

This could get very interesting. Much of the reason Trump won is that Democrats made a habit of ignoring BHO's and HRC's obvious and profound faults. Those faults and the wholesale ignoring of them was massively more consequential then even the most lurid version of the Russian conspiracy theories embraced by many Democratic partisans. Facing up to these failures is overdue. Omar's done a great job of showing what a fraud Pelosi is, I look forward to her going after BHO and HRC in the future.

BTW, every since word in this comment was VERY carefully chosen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bigger potential problem for the Representative is her view regarding former President Obama. However, he has a remarkable ability to ignore stupid criticisms directed his way. Many Republicans, by contrast, can’t do that.


BHO has been uniquely successful in avoiding smart criticisms, especially from Democrats and the putative left. But a hijabi committed to helping the dispossessed and born within 1,000 miles of BHO's father's birthplace is unlikely to be mau-maued by his defenders.

This could get very interesting. Much of the reason Trump won is that Democrats made a habit of ignoring BHO's and HRC's obvious and profound faults. Those faults and the wholesale ignoring of them was massively more consequential then even the most lurid version of the Russian conspiracy theories embraced by many Democratic partisans. Facing up to these failures is overdue. Omar's done a great job of showing what a fraud Pelosi is, I look forward to her going after BHO and HRC in the future.

BTW, every since word in this comment was VERY carefully chosen.


EVERY SINGLE word save for "SINCE" in the last sentence. GRR!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something


I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.


God save America from the crazies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bigger potential problem for the Representative is her view regarding former President Obama. However, he has a remarkable ability to ignore stupid criticisms directed his way. Many Republicans, by contrast, can’t do that.


BHO has been uniquely successful in avoiding smart criticisms, especially from Democrats and the putative left. But a hijabi committed to helping the dispossessed and born within 1,000 miles of BHO's father's birthplace is unlikely to be mau-maued by his defenders.

This could get very interesting. Much of the reason Trump won is that Democrats made a habit of ignoring BHO's and HRC's obvious and profound faults. Those faults and the wholesale ignoring of them was massively more consequential then even the most lurid version of the Russian conspiracy theories embraced by many Democratic partisans. Facing up to these failures is overdue. Omar's done a great job of showing what a fraud Pelosi is, I look forward to her going after BHO and HRC in the future.

BTW, every since word in this comment was VERY carefully chosen.


Interesting take that, so far, has not aged well. She is OFF LIMITS. Have I made myself clear?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The bigger potential problem for the Representative is her view regarding former President Obama. However, he has a remarkable ability to ignore stupid criticisms directed his way. Many Republicans, by contrast, can’t do that.


That one I didn't see.

What did she say about Obama?
Anonymous

Oh my God, make it stop. Or at least Nancy, make it stop. Here is latest tweet, after being heavily criticized about the way she characterized 9/11:

“The people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” President George W. Bush

Was Bush downplaying the terrorist attack?

What if he was a Muslim?
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
Oh my God, make it stop. Or at least Nancy, make it stop. Here is latest tweet, after being heavily criticized about the way she characterized 9/11:

“The people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” President George W. Bush

Was Bush downplaying the terrorist attack?

What if he was a Muslim?


What is wrong with that tweet? Omar was not downplaying 9/11, but her critics are downplaying the increased Islamophobia that grew out of 9/11. Why aren't Republicans supporting aid to the 9/11 responders who are suffering tragic health consequences? If you are really concerned with 9/11, you should be attacking Republicans instead of Omar (who is a co-sponsor of the bill).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something


I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.


God save America from the crazies.


What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Oh my God, make it stop. Or at least Nancy, make it stop. Here is latest tweet, after being heavily criticized about the way she characterized 9/11:

“The people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” President George W. Bush

Was Bush downplaying the terrorist attack?

What if he was a Muslim?


What is wrong with that tweet? Omar was not downplaying 9/11, but her critics are downplaying the increased Islamophobia that grew out of 9/11. Why aren't Republicans supporting aid to the 9/11 responders who are suffering tragic health consequences? If you are really concerned with 9/11, you should be attacking Republicans instead of Omar (who is a co-sponsor of the bill).


Americans don't like to hear 9/11 characterized as "some people did something." Was she afraid to offend her Muslim audience? No one needed her to call it "the deadliest terror act in the history of the world." She could have just said "9/11."

President Bush made this statement days after World Trade Center was reduced to rubble. We didn't yet know who was responsible. You don't see a false equivalency?

Omar is 1 of the 142 out of 435 members in the House who are co-sponsors of the bill, though one does not need to be a co-sponsor of the bill to support it. I don't know why there are so many Democrats and Republicans who not co-sponsoring, but it leads me to wonder what is in it that is giving a third of them pause. Jon Stewart, who hates Trump, praised the Trump administration last month for how it was handling the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund.

Omar has called for the complete defunding of the Department of Homeland Security, which was created to protect the United States after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something


I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.


God save America from the crazies.


What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.


What does it mean? That they are innocent Americans who need to be saved from radically extreme Muslims. Are you suggesting otherwise?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Oh my God, make it stop. Or at least Nancy, make it stop. Here is latest tweet, after being heavily criticized about the way she characterized 9/11:

“The people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” President George W. Bush

Was Bush downplaying the terrorist attack?

What if he was a Muslim?


What is wrong with that tweet? Omar was not downplaying 9/11, but her critics are downplaying the increased Islamophobia that grew out of 9/11. Why aren't Republicans supporting aid to the 9/11 responders who are suffering tragic health consequences? If you are really concerned with 9/11, you should be attacking Republicans instead of Omar (who is a co-sponsor of the bill).


Americans don't like to hear 9/11 characterized as "some people did something." Was she afraid to offend her Muslim audience? No one needed her to call it "the deadliest terror act in the history of the world." She could have just said "9/11."

President Bush made this statement days after World Trade Center was reduced to rubble. We didn't yet know who was responsible. You don't see a false equivalency?

Omar is 1 of the 142 out of 435 members in the House who are co-sponsors of the bill, though one does not need to be a co-sponsor of the bill to support it. I don't know why there are so many Democrats and Republicans who not co-sponsoring, but it leads me to wonder what is in it that is giving a third of them pause. Jon Stewart, who hates Trump, praised the Trump administration last month for how it was handling the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund.

Omar has called for the complete defunding of the Department of Homeland Security, which was created to protect the United States after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.



That phrasing doesn't bother me in the context of her speech and her perspective. I think it's terrible how Muslims have been treated in country, particularly after 9/11. Someone on this forum even equated a mosque to a Nazi flag recently. Why must all Muslims in the US face bigotry every day just because "some people did something"?

-American

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something


I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.


God save America from the crazies.


What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.


What does it mean? That they are innocent Americans who need to be saved from radically extreme Muslims. Are you suggesting otherwise?


Don't get your panties in a bunch, you weirdo.

I'm addressing the hypocrisy in her words. She is blaming America for placing Muslims as second-class citizens as she "downgrades" 9-11. Yet she fails to recognize the deaths of Muslims during this attack.

I'm not denying Islamophobia, but she is incredibly divisive in her approach, and she makes destructive generalizations - all while using her public position to push an agenda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something


I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.


God save America from the crazies.


What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.


What does it mean? That they are innocent Americans who need to be saved from radically extreme Muslims. Are you suggesting otherwise?


Don't get your panties in a bunch, you weirdo.

I'm addressing the hypocrisy in her words. She is blaming America for placing Muslims as second-class citizens as she "downgrades" 9-11. Yet she fails to recognize the deaths of Muslims during this attack.

I'm not denying Islamophobia, but she is incredibly divisive in her approach, and she makes destructive generalizations - all while using her public position to push an agenda.


what agenda?
jsteele
Site Admin Offline
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There really is no defending Omar’s disgusting statement essentially diminishing and dismissing 9/11:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-under-fire-after-describing-9-11-terror-attacks-as-some-people-did-something


I lost a family member in NYC during the TERRORIST attack.

She has no clue and is an embarrassment.


God save America from the crazies.


What does this mean for the Muslims who died in (or survived) 9-11?

https://www.thoughtco.com/muslim-victims-of-911-attack-2004638

The list of names is included in this article.

Among the many victims of 9/11 were several dozen innocent Muslims, ranging in age from their late 60s to a couple’s unborn child. Many were stockbrokers or restaurant workers, working in the Twin Towers to earn a living to care for their families, and their numbers included converts and immigrants from over a dozen different countries and the U.S. Some were heroes, including an NYPD cadet and a Marriott hotel worker who sacrificed their lives attempting to rescue others. The Muslim victims were parents to more than 30 children who were left without one or both of their parents.


What does it mean? That they are innocent Americans who need to be saved from radically extreme Muslims. Are you suggesting otherwise?


Don't get your panties in a bunch, you weirdo.

I'm addressing the hypocrisy in her words. She is blaming America for placing Muslims as second-class citizens as she "downgrades" 9-11. Yet she fails to recognize the deaths of Muslims during this attack.

I'm not denying Islamophobia, but she is incredibly divisive in her approach, and she makes destructive generalizations - all while using her public position to push an agenda.


You are missing Omar's point. It doesn't matter if 9/11 was the most massive attack in the history of the world or a minor incident. Neither case justifies blaming all Muslims for it, considering all Muslims as potential terrorists, or downgrading Muslims to second class citizenship.
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