ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

Sorry, but I know lots of people at Key who don’t live within the immediate boundary and for every single one of them it complicate the commute and makes it more difficult. To suggest that is the motive behind enrolling at Key is laughable and just entirely out of touch with reality.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

True...a number of parents trying to avoid their south arlington neighborhood schools also flock to immersion.

Sorry, but that’s Claremont. The vast majority of Key transfers come from N Arlington schools that are high performing. It’s legitimately a desire to be part of immersion that attracts the students. Are parents seriously freaking out about sending their kids to Taylor or Jamestown?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?

Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.

If that's the case, "staff" should be fired. Are you talking about APS higher administration staff, or the actual school staff?
A neighborhood school that's a choice program is steps backward and just recreating the Claremont inequity problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The immersion seats at every school could still be lottery. Just lottery within that school’s Boundary.
That way all kids have they possibility to lottery into an immersion class at their school.

Or they could just revamp the FLES program so that it is actually useful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mixing in immersion with neighborhood schools is death to the program. I think aps just wants to get rid of immersion and this will send it along that path. It takes up two schools. And, don’t forget-immersion is expensive! Teachers are harder to get.... so this is a cost saving measure.

If they want to save money, they'd cut Montessori.
Nobody on the board is interested in eliminating immersion. Quite the opposite.

[Anonymous]

I don't believe any of these rumors until someone coughs up some receipts.

This isn't even on a SB agenda anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

The alternative is to move key immersion wholesale somewhere else; right now they are looking at office space or other non neighborhood schools. Maybe Reed but Westover would crap a brick.

Re Reed, why put immersion for the eastern half of the county in the west (it's called westover for a reason)? Also, why place a program that can't attract enough Spanish speakers in a 720 seat school? Or is the logic just there aren't any kids in the building yet, so less resistance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

Sorry, but I know lots of people at Key who don’t live within the immediate boundary and for every single one of them it complicate the commute and makes it more difficult. To suggest that is the motive behind enrolling at Key is laughable and just entirely out of touch with reality.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

1) learn how to quote

2) learn how to read a transfer report; that’s great you know 5 people who have a harder commute (not sure why they don’t bus then), but the report show 80% come from LB and Taylor, a strong geographic preference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mixing in immersion with neighborhood schools is death to the program. I think aps just wants to get rid of immersion and this will send it along that path. It takes up two schools. And, don’t forget-immersion is expensive! Teachers are harder to get.... so this is a cost saving measure.

If they want to save money, they'd cut Montessori.
Nobody on the board is interested in eliminating immersion. Quite the opposite.

What about moving Immersion to old Patrick Henry site?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mixing in immersion with neighborhood schools is death to the program. I think aps just wants to get rid of immersion and this will send it along that path. It takes up two schools. And, don’t forget-immersion is expensive! Teachers are harder to get.... so this is a cost saving measure.

If they want to save money, they'd cut Montessori.
Nobody on the board is interested in eliminating immersion. Quite the opposite.

What about moving Immersion to old Patrick Henry site?

Are you new here? Or just drunk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mixing in immersion with neighborhood schools is death to the program. I think aps just wants to get rid of immersion and this will send it along that path. It takes up two schools. And, don’t forget-immersion is expensive! Teachers are harder to get.... so this is a cost saving measure.

If they want to save money, they'd cut Montessori.
Nobody on the board is interested in eliminating immersion. Quite the opposite.

What about moving Immersion to old Patrick Henry site?

Are you new here? Or just drunk?

I mean, if they prefer immersion over montessori it makes sense. High school is years away still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

Sorry, but I know lots of people at Key who don’t live within the immediate boundary and for every single one of them it complicate the commute and makes it more difficult. To suggest that is the motive behind enrolling at Key is laughable and just entirely out of touch with reality.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

1) learn how to quote

2) learn how to read a transfer report; that’s great you know 5 people who have a harder commute (not sure why they don’t bus then), but the report show 80% come from LB and Taylor, a strong geographic preference.

Learn how to write if you are going to attempt to school others. Your grammar and punctuation are atrocious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

Sorry, but I know lots of people at Key who don’t live within the immediate boundary and for every single one of them it complicate the commute and makes it more difficult. To suggest that is the motive behind enrolling at Key is laughable and just entirely out of touch with reality.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

1) learn how to quote

2) learn how to read a transfer report; that’s great you know 5 people who have a harder commute (not sure why they don’t bus then), but the report show 80% come from LB and Taylor, a strong geographic preference.

NP, but maybe you need to teach me how to read a transfer report as well--- the report you linked states that in SY2017-18, there were 86 transfers from Taylor and 90 from LB, for a total of 176 out of 404 transfers-- that's not even 50%. Even if you add in the Key attendance zone folks (because some of them probably did just go to Key based on location), which is 296, you still only have 472 of the 700 coming from those three attendance areas (Key, LB, Tayor), which is still less than 70%.

Where does this 80% strong geographic statement come from? What am I missing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

Sorry, but I know lots of people at Key who don’t live within the immediate boundary and for every single one of them it complicate the commute and makes it more difficult. To suggest that is the motive behind enrolling at Key is laughable and just entirely out of touch with reality.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

1) learn how to quote

2) learn how to read a transfer report; that’s great you know 5 people who have a harder commute (not sure why they don’t bus then), but the report show 80% come from LB and Taylor, a strong geographic preference.

NP, but maybe you need to teach me how to read a transfer report as well--- the report you linked states that in SY2017-18, there were 86 transfers from Taylor and 90 from LB, for a total of 176 out of 404 transfers-- that's not even 50%. Even if you add in the Key attendance zone folks (because some of them probably did just go to Key based on location), which is 296, you still only have 472 of the 700 coming from those three attendance areas (Key, LB, Tayor), which is still less than 70%.

Where does this 80% strong geographic statement come from? What am I missing?

Le sigh. yes of course I included the Key attendance zone.

And yes, I didn't actually whip out my calculator, so it's 70% vs 80% but my point still stands. Its patently obvious.

[Anonymous]

Just end immersion. We have no money and no space. Talk about fiddling while Rome burned...

[Anonymous]

If you think the majority of transfers to Key do so to simplify their commute, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re just wrong.