ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

No, it doesn't. Stop being a shit-stirrer/drama queen.

Not so. Neighborhood schools are needed to handle the influx of students. One immersion school is enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have some serious concerns about having an immersion class in each school as an option.
Part of what makes key and Claremont a “school” is that everything is dual language. It isn’t just in the classrooms. And that brings a sense of community and dual language to the school. If only a couple classes are immersion, there will be a neighborhood school- and immersion. Two tracks of school didn’t work at drew because one program will become subordinate to the other. The immersion class will be full of poorer ELL students, the neighborhood full of whiter kids and non Spanish speaking poorer kids.

The alternative is to move key immersion wholesale somewhere else; right now they are looking at office space or other non neighborhood schools. Maybe Reed but Westover would crap a brick.

Office space? Source, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

It takes a special kind of wealthy white parent in n Arlington to see outside her bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

[Anonymous]

So the swap is back on? Kind of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the swap is back on? Kind of?

Yeah key gets neighborhood kids in addition to current immersion, ASFS gets a couple immersion classes (along with CS, Barret, etc)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the swap is back on? Kind of?

Yeah key gets neighborhood kids in addition to current immersion, ASFS gets a couple immersion classes (along with CS, Barret, etc)

Sounds good. I hope it plays out this way and the county can put this — and all the whining — in its rear view mirror as it moves forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

Sorry, but I know lots of people at Key who don’t live within the immediate boundary and for every single one of them it complicate the commute and makes it more difficult. To suggest that is the motive behind enrolling at Key is laughable and just entirely out of touch with reality.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the swap is back on? Kind of?

Yeah key gets neighborhood kids in addition to current immersion, ASFS gets a couple immersion classes (along with CS, Barret, etc)

But it does nothing to help the Rosslyn residents who wanted a straight-up swap. What a mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the swap is back on? Kind of?

Yeah key gets neighborhood kids in addition to current immersion, ASFS gets a couple immersion classes (along with CS, Barret, etc)

But it does nothing to help the Rosslyn residents who wanted a straight-up swap. What a mess.

Give me a break, Rosslyn should just be happy to get a neighborhood school and be happy not to have to be bussed to Taylor. And everyone in that community gets to stay together. They need to stop with the swap nonsense/dismantling ASF just so they can have their cake and eat it too. It's ridiculous that the taxpayers would have to pay for an ASF/Key swap just so the Rosslyn and Courthouse folks could keep "their" school. I'm sure everyone who has ever been moved during the boundary process wishes they could keep or move parts of their old school that they loved, but too bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems fairly clear that the county wants to be finished with immersion.

Well it was started during a period of declining enrollment so maybe not a fit for now

Whichever way you want to spin your dislike for immersion, the program is immensely popular in the county. Just because the ill-conceived swap plan isn’t going to fly doesn’t mean APS has all of a sudden rejected this program and is working to phase it out. The immersion program was placed at Key because, historically, north Arlington parents don’t send their kids to diverse schools unless there’s a special program attracting them, and at the time Key would not have been attractive to many families absent some type of educational incentive.It worked. The school became popular. It is a model of success. Dismantling the program would undo one of the only successful efforts of the county at balanced and voluntary socio-economic integration. I assume the county is treading carefully when it comes to dismantling integrated schools in North Arlington given that there are schools with fewer than 1% free and reduced lunch populations in the mix. Cry me a river when it comes to the need for the arlington science focus families to have a bigger building and avoid impacts of boundary changes. The swap was always a bad faith undertaking that certain people believed could be guaranteed by throwing around their money.

Bullocks. The VAST majority of Key attendees are from Long Branch and Taylor (over 80%) — which tells you they likely are attending Key b/c it’s closer and better for their parents commute.

Not immersion. It’s all about location.

Sorry, but I know lots of people at Key who don’t live within the immediate boundary and for every single one of them it complicate the commute and makes it more difficult. To suggest that is the motive behind enrolling at Key is laughable and just entirely out of touch with reality.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Transfer-Report-2017-18.pdf

True...a number of parents trying to avoid their south arlington neighborhood schools also flock to immersion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have some serious concerns about having an immersion class in each school as an option.
Part of what makes key and Claremont a “school” is that everything is dual language. It isn’t just in the classrooms. And that brings a sense of community and dual language to the school. If only a couple classes are immersion, there will be a neighborhood school- and immersion. Two tracks of school didn’t work at drew because one program will become subordinate to the other. The immersion class will be full of poorer ELL students, the neighborhood full of whiter kids and non Spanish speaking poorer kids.

They're not going to do that. The only scenario the SB would do that is to gradually implement a third elementary immersion school - or MAYbe to add a second middle school location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the swap is back on? Kind of?

Yeah key gets neighborhood kids in addition to current immersion, ASFS gets a couple immersion classes (along with CS, Barret, etc)

But it does nothing to help the Rosslyn residents who wanted a straight-up swap. What a mess.

Give me a break, Rosslyn should just be happy to get a neighborhood school and be happy not to have to be bussed to Taylor. And everyone in that community gets to stay together. They need to stop with the swap nonsense/dismantling ASF just so they can have their cake and eat it too. It's ridiculous that the taxpayers would have to pay for an ASF/Key swap just so the Rosslyn and Courthouse folks could keep "their" school. I'm sure everyone who has ever been moved during the boundary process wishes they could keep or move parts of their old school that they loved, but too bad.

I should have made my sarcasm clearer. And Rosslyn will probably end up at Long Branch, which is a good school. The need to blow up immersion along the way is touching.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t sound like the community Carlin Springs serves is clamoring for an Immersion school. Stop offering it up like a sacrificial lamb to make things more convenient for the UMC. Claremont is already taking up a school in S Arlington 2 miles away. Campbell is right there too.

Yeah. They’re a pretty quiet bunch. They don’t want too much attention. Wonder why that is? Wonder what could keep that particular community under the radar....

Don’t be an ass. It’s unbecoming.

Back at ya.
Don’t use underserved communities to help you achieve your goal of opportunity hoarding. Unbecoming indeed.

I’m not sure what you mean by opportunity hoarding. I’m a South Arlington resident that lives in between 2 already-option schools and doesn’t want to see a another take up a third neighborhood school. Makes it harder to economically diversify the schools.

I will call out your subtle-wink-wink comment about why Carlin Springs parents aren’t more vocal. You’re not as clever as you think you are. All you’re doing is perpetuating harmful stereotypes. Do better.

My comment wasn’t subtle.
Choice schools are the best tool for integrating schools. No wonder south Arlington struggles, the middle class below 50 is just not as savy. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him smart.

No, the middle class below 50 is more tolerant and accepting of diversity and their kids seeing and interacting with other kids who are not middle or upper class. The "southern middle class" just isn't as uptight and overbearing with their attitudes of superiority and entitlement for "better."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the swap is back on? Kind of?

Yeah key gets neighborhood kids in addition to current immersion, ASFS gets a couple immersion classes (along with CS, Barret, etc)

But it does nothing to help the Rosslyn residents who wanted a straight-up swap. What a mess.

I live in Rosslyn. I am happy with anything other than going to Taylor. It’s just too far and inaccessible.