Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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Anonymous wrote:The title of the article is misleading. No one is considering SEC schools over Ivy League schools - except for Vanderbilt and some students that got awesome scholarships. The SEC is a sports league.

But I think the gist of the article is that above average students don’t like their options in the northeast. And schools like Georgia and Florida and Alabama and so on seem much more appealing than UMass, UConn, SUNY etc.

Which I think is a fair point.

Range is too high….more like average to slightly below average.

Bullshit

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2

The article does not say that.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in my day, the quintessential college experience was associated with snow and New England. I remember visiting a friend who attended ASU and thinking it was like a resort and somewhat unserious. The dorm was a former motel and the rooms had sliding glass doors that opened to a pool area.

Which experience sounds more appealing to most 18 year olds? I know which my kids would choose and it’s not snow and New England.

I tried to sell snow and the Northeast/Midwest to my Southern kid but they chose the South after winter tours of a couple Northern schools.

Snowflakes

No, smart kids make decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in my day, the quintessential college experience was associated with snow and New England. I remember visiting a friend who attended ASU and thinking it was like a resort and somewhat unserious. The dorm was a former motel and the rooms had sliding glass doors that opened to a pool area.

Which experience sounds more appealing to most 18 year olds? I know which my kids would choose and it’s not snow and New England.

I tried to sell snow and the Northeast/Midwest to my Southern kid but they chose the South after winter tours of a couple Northern schools.

Snowflakes

No, smart kids make decisions.

Lots of smart SEC kids

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

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Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

High-stats kids covet high-ranked schools

Sure. Like top flagships and southern ivies. Stop trying to make fetch happen, southerners don’t govern a shit about your cone head college

Southern publics have to bribe students with 10s of thousands of dollars to begin considering. I’d understand if we were talking about UT Austin, but no one is crying about their chances of getting into Alabama or Ole Miss

You do realize UT Austin accepts about 50% of their in-staters right? Also, finish top 5% in your high school, regardless of strenghth of schedule or strenghth of high school and you are in.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are kids heading after college graduation? Not the south.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1263975.page

Smart kids leave the shthole red states.

No one cares what states any of these places are.

Think with the thing between your legs - that’s the synthesis that combines both why high schoolers want to go to specific schools in the south and then go to nyc after graduation.

The parsimonious link between sec and nyc is both places have the optimal population, given a specific age range, for hooking up.

Sec has the baddies 18-22

And then the baddies migrate to nyc 22-29

So the perverts are drawn to the SEC schools?

Smart kids are seeking top academics, not a venereal disease.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are kids heading after college graduation? Not the south.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1263975.page

Smart kids leave the shthole red states.

No one cares what states any of these places are.

Think with the thing between your legs - that’s the synthesis that combines both why high schoolers want to go to specific schools in the south and then go to nyc after graduation.

The parsimonious link between sec and nyc is both places have the optimal population, given a specific age range, for hooking up.

Sec has the baddies 18-22

And then the baddies migrate to nyc 22-29

SEC is absolutely the best social scene for well-adjusted college kids looking to date or hookup with top influencers.

Those are not “well-adjusted kids”.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are kids heading after college graduation? Not the south.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1263975.page

Smart kids leave the shthole red states.

No one cares what states any of these places are.

Think with the thing between your legs - that’s the synthesis that combines both why high schoolers want to go to specific schools in the south and then go to nyc after graduation.

The parsimonious link between sec and nyc is both places have the optimal population, given a specific age range, for hooking up.

Sec has the baddies 18-22

And then the baddies migrate to nyc 22-29

SEC is absolutely the best social scene for well-adjusted college kids looking to date or hookup with top influencers.

Exactly

Livvy dunne is a jersey girl.

Went to the south for school.

Now buying a place in nyc and pushing to move there full time.

And the Karens get so mad because they can’t buy or test their way into the top SEC social circles. It’s jealousy, plain and simple.

Lol

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

+1

Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

High-stats kids covet high-ranked schools

Sure. Like top flagships and southern ivies. Stop trying to make fetch happen, southerners don’t govern a shit about your cone head college

Not a thing.

Oh it is, stick it up your nose and snort it!!

Karen, are you drunk already? It’s only 1pm.

Seems like you do “give a shit” about the “cone head colleges” if you want to make up the faux “southern ivy” moniker.

It’s just fun running circles around you

The wine is making your head spin.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2

The article does not say that.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

+1

Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

High-stats kids covet high-ranked schools

Sure. Like top flagships and southern ivies. Stop trying to make fetch happen, southerners don’t govern a shit about your cone head college

Southern publics have to bribe students with 10s of thousands of dollars to begin considering. I’d understand if we were talking about UT Austin, but no one is crying about their chances of getting into Alabama or Ole Miss

And yet you can get a fantastic education at Alabama or Ole Miss. Funny how that simple fact never enters into your calculations.

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I know SEC grads who are living very good lives with plenty of money for things like nice houses, K-12 private school, full pay private college, trips, etc. And I know HPYSM grads and WASP grads who are struggling. So much life happens after college- who you marry, who you meet, where you settle, mental and physical health struggles, economic/technological/social shifts. It’s short-sighted to think that any college can be a golden ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Not all families have a budget constraint.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

+1

Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

High-stats kids covet high-ranked schools

Sure. Like top flagships and southern ivies. Stop trying to make fetch happen, southerners don’t govern a shit about your cone head college

Southern publics have to bribe students with 10s of thousands of dollars to begin considering. I’d understand if we were talking about UT Austin, but no one is crying about their chances of getting into Alabama or Ole Miss

You do realize UT Austin accepts about 50% of their in-staters right? Also, finish top 5% in your high school, regardless of strenghth of schedule or strenghth of high school and you are in.

Sounds like a darn good school. What’s your point?