FCPS Early Release Mondays

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Anonymous wrote:Pay teachers more! Get rid of the random holidays! Give them overtime!

Absolutely agree! Where would we be without our teachers?! Elementary education is so important and let’s not make it harder for teachers, parents AND kids.

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Anonymous wrote:On balance this is going to come at a cost of, conservatively, $1,200 per household. So cut $1,200 per student out of requests for various things every year, and acknowledge the need to do so to meet FCPS decisions. That’s working “together”

How did you get that number?

Made up, pulled from their a$$.

$50 per hour, which is what an after school babysitter will want for such infrequent hours, plus additional $100 in transport.

If id wanted a larger number I’d do the value of the parents 21 hours of A/L

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

PP, what do you consider asking for “support from parents”? What is it that you’ve been asked to support?

Volunteer hours (which will now include supervising this time.) for parents who also have to take leave from their jobs.

Donations to every group gift and “initiative” from parents who have to pay for proper enrichment or tutoring to make up for another seven lost days.

Classroom supplies for teachers who are apparently not given enough reams of printer paper to support the classes they’re assigned.

And now find childcare or take leave for another seven days. And don’t you dare use them as vacation! Don’t you know school matters??

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

They will need to support kids with IEPs just like a regular school day

I don’t think afterschool activities are covered with IEP’s

It’s not an afterschool activity. They promised coverage by the school system until the regular dismissal time. They have to support special ed kids for that. Just like a field trip;

Coverage = day care, not part of the school day.

If its an activity the school system is providing, then they need to provide access to students with disabilities as well. FCPS is promising to cover those hours so they need to be prepared to provide special ed support.

It looks like you will be disappointed.

What do you think will happen to kids who get interventions on Monday afternoons?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

They will need to support kids with IEPs just like a regular school day

I don’t think afterschool activities are covered with IEP’s

It’s not an afterschool activity. They promised coverage by the school system until the regular dismissal time. They have to support special ed kids for that. Just like a field trip;

Coverage = day care, not part of the school day.

If it’s an activity the school system is providing, then they need to provide access to students with disabilities as well. FCPS is promising to cover those hours so they need to be prepared to provide special ed support.

That’s not the case for girls on the run, school plays, yearbook club, science Olympiad, scouts, green team, or chess club. Some of these were examples of the activities that we were told that would be offered on these days.

Now, if your child is in a CAT B class that might be different, they will probably have an IA overlooking that room.

Those all cost money. Did they say they were charging people?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

All parents are asking is that we have a continuous school schedule. That is it. How are we supposed to "work together" when FCPS keeps cutting class days?

Seriously, you have to stop blaming teachers for things we have absolutely no control over. I mean, we have NONE.

Did you not read the above where it was stated that FCPS keeps cutting class dates? Stop playing the victim here.

This post is literally 32 pages of parents playing the victim.

HAHA this whole FCPS site is parents playing the victim.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

They will need to support kids with IEPs just like a regular school day

I don’t think afterschool activities are covered with IEP’s

It’s not an afterschool activity. They promised coverage by the school system until the regular dismissal time. They have to support special ed kids for that. Just like a field trip;

Coverage = day care, not part of the school day.

If its an activity the school system is providing, then they need to provide access to students with disabilities as well. FCPS is promising to cover those hours so they need to be prepared to provide special ed support.

It looks like you will be disappointed.

What do you think will happen to kids who get interventions on Monday afternoons?

That is different. Interventions (or tutoring) will probably still occur, but SPED students who are not doing interventions will not be receiving support in their other activity. It’s even possible that the interventions will be broken up into three 60min small groups with different kids in each group. Obviously, the logistics are still being worked out. (Staffing is a regular issue.)

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

They will need to support kids with IEPs just like a regular school day

I don’t think afterschool activities are covered with IEP’s

It’s not an afterschool activity. They promised coverage by the school system until the regular dismissal time. They have to support special ed kids for that. Just like a field trip;

Coverage = day care, not part of the school day.

If it’s an activity the school system is providing, then they need to provide access to students with disabilities as well. FCPS is promising to cover those hours so they need to be prepared to provide special ed support.

That’s not the case for girls on the run, school plays, yearbook club, science Olympiad, scouts, green team, or chess club. Some of these were examples of the activities that we were told that would be offered on these days.

Now, if your child is in a CAT B class that might be different, they will probably have an IA overlooking that room.

Those all cost money. Did they say they were charging people?

Sorry, I didn’t ask. I do know talking with the PTAs was also discussed.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

PP, what do you consider asking for “support from parents”? What is it that you’ve been asked to support?

Volunteer hours (which will now include supervising this time.) for parents who also have to take leave from their jobs.

Donations to every group gift and “initiative” from parents who have to pay for proper enrichment or tutoring to make up for another seven lost days.

Classroom supplies for teachers who are apparently not given enough reams of printer paper to support the classes they’re assigned.

And now find childcare or take leave for another seven days. And don’t you dare use them as vacation! Don’t you know school matters??

Did you list watching your own kid and other responsibilities related to being a parent as ways that you support your school?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

PP, what do you consider asking for “support from parents”? What is it that you’ve been asked to support?

Volunteer hours (which will now include supervising this time.) for parents who also have to take leave from their jobs.

Donations to every group gift and “initiative” from parents who have to pay for proper enrichment or tutoring to make up for another seven lost days.

Classroom supplies for teachers who are apparently not given enough reams of printer paper to support the classes they’re assigned.

And now find childcare or take leave for another seven days. And don’t you dare use them as vacation! Don’t you know school matters??

Did you list watching your own kid and other responsibilities related to being a parent as ways that you support your school?

Is there some confusion about what parents do and what schools do in FCPS? When the schools are open consistently 5 days a week and teachers are being properly supported to do their job, then you can comment on what parents do. I don’t need FCPS to parent my child. I need them to provide a quality education on a regular weekly basis. Why does FCPS have so much animosity towards parents?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

PP, what do you consider asking for “support from parents”? What is it that you’ve been asked to support?

Volunteer hours (which will now include supervising this time.) for parents who also have to take leave from their jobs.

Donations to every group gift and “initiative” from parents who have to pay for proper enrichment or tutoring to make up for another seven lost days.

Classroom supplies for teachers who are apparently not given enough reams of printer paper to support the classes they’re assigned.

And now find childcare or take leave for another seven days. And don’t you dare use them as vacation! Don’t you know school matters??

Did you list watching your own kid and other responsibilities related to being a parent as ways that you support your school?

Is there some confusion about what parents do and what schools do in FCPS? When the schools are open consistently 5 days a week and teachers are being properly supported to do their job, then you can comment on what parents do. I don’t need FCPS to parent my child. I need them to provide a quality education on a regular weekly basis. Why does FCPS have so much animosity towards parents?

I suspect it’s probably a reaction to how the parents have treated FCPS. There’s not always a strong relationship between these two groups and I don’t foresee it improving next year.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

They will need to support kids with IEPs just like a regular school day

I don’t think afterschool activities are covered with IEP’s

Its not an afterschool activity. They promised coverage by the school system until the regular dismissal time. They have to support special ed kids for that. Just like a field trip;

It’ll be more like SACC than a field trip (no SPED support required).

It seems like that will be an issue for VDOE and the courts

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

They will need to support kids with IEPs just like a regular school day

I don’t think afterschool activities are covered with IEP’s

Its not an afterschool activity. They promised coverage by the school system until the regular dismissal time. They have to support special ed kids for that. Just like a field trip;

It’ll be more like SACC than a field trip (no SPED support required).

It seems like that will be an issue for VDOE and the courts

You can contact whom ever you like.

The child is not being denied access to the activities, the real question is do they require support to sit in the room and play games after school hours? This may be true with a physical disability.

Without you sharing more info, who can really know. Maybe you could offer some examples without being specific to your specific family. If a student with a reading goal, they may not get support based on the activities offered. The SPED teachers will be in the training, so I doubt their be academic activities beyond the tutoring interventions.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Do people not understand that when workers are remote, they are still....wait for it....working? When I telework, I can't leave my house to go get my kid and then care for them all afternoon. Maybe you have a six year old who can entertain themselves for three hours, and a boss who doesn't care if you're actually working, but I have neither.

Look at the PPs:

*I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

* Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s [sic]

So you can use the at-school option.

Kids in a cafeteria overseen by subs? hopefully people complain to VDOE about inadequate staffing if that's the plan

They will need to support kids with IEPs just like a regular school day

I don’t think afterschool activities are covered with IEP’s

Its not an afterschool activity. They promised coverage by the school system until the regular dismissal time. They have to support special ed kids for that. Just like a field trip;

It’ll be more like SACC than a field trip (no SPED support required).

It seems like that will be an issue for VDOE and the courts

Are you referring to students that receives support all day long? Such as students that are in sped classrooms or have a 1:1 paraprofessional?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would have done this on Fridays so we could get a jump start on the weekend.

They probably don't want the teachers to leave early for the weekend

Wouldn’t the training be mandatory for teachers? Why should this be a problem?

Given most parents who telework do so on Fridays, and parents who would want more family time would benefit from early Friday’s, I really see no justification in not doing this Friday afternoons.

So telework Monday

Still doesn’t answer the question of why we’re addressing absenteeism in teachers by punishing parents. If the teachers will not show up for mandatory training if it’s held on Friday that is 100% a discipline/employee problem. Let the kids at least get a longer weekend.

It’s 100% speculation that FCPS chose Monday afternoons to reduce teacher absenteeism. We have no idea why they chose that day.

Because…parents and other stakeholders weren’t consulted. This is why everyone is enraged.

Enraged, really? It’s ok to be upset and/or annoyed, so take a couple days. Nothing is changing, you need to find a way to get over it.

Working parents have every right to be enraged. The calendar already looks like Swiss cheese. Kids barely have any full weeks. Now they have added 1/2 day Mondays to the mix. there is zero consistency in attendance or continuity of work. This creates massive strain on workin parents and negatively impacts their work schedules. this is no small change.

Teachers are working parents, too. This impacts them, as well. I wonder how many of them are as enraged as you?

Then why support the public school system at all if teachers are not willing to work? I have never supported charters nor thought that sending my kids to private was a good idea. but now that I see just how little FCPS actually cares about students and families I would completely reconsider. Luckily, I only have one kid who remains in ES so I don't have to worry about the older two. But at this point I am fully behind why families want to pull their kids out, get their money back, and use those funds to send their kids to a school that actually stays open. It's crazy that is the bare minimum that we are asking - just hold classes. We've been at this since 2020. Families are leaving, and with good reason.

This had nothing to do with teacher absenteeism or teachers not being willing to work. It had to do with the massive inequality when it comes to elementary teacher planning time. Elementary teachers have considerably less planning time and the county has been trying to address that for a while.

The reason given for not doing this on Friday was teacher absenteeism.

LOL. of course. So make it the most inconvenient option for parents and families because that's the only time teachers would show up. Love the family friendly school system.

This works great for our family. We plan on using these long weekends to travel or just enjoy Mondays off. Inconvenient would be doing it in the middle of the week

This is so let them eat cake. So you'll travel for those 7 day "long weekends" even though your kid is technically supposed to be present in the morning? And travel all of the 13 existing long weekends that have been put in place for holidays and teacher workday? that's a lot of travel. Unfortunately, both spouse and I are employed so we cannot take off that much. It must be nice to be unemployed.

I’m not who you’re quoting, and I am employed, but what’s the alternative here? Do the morning rush and drop off just to turn around and get the kids again, but take time off work anyway? I can’t see why I have to do that to myself or my kids for a stupid choice made by FCPS without input from parents. I’m going to have to take the time off anyway, I may as well be doing something enriching and enjoyable with my kids.

But, again, I had better not hear a single word about how parents and teachers are a partnership or how we need to support our schools.

YOU are making the decision to pull/keep your child out. YOU. [b]There may very well be an option for you to keep your kids at school on Mondays.

Teachers don’t really care whether or not you support them. It’s the preference that you do, but we won’t lose sleep over, if it if you don’t.

And there may very well not. If there was a great plan with lots of qualified supervision and genuine enrichment I bet we would have heard all about it by now, don’t you?

I don’t think teachers need to lose sleep. I think they need to realize how hollow calls for their “support” sound when yet another misogynistic policy comes down from FCPS.

Once again: teachers don’t make these policies. Let me write it again because we know repetition helps concepts stick: teachers don’t make these policies.

So why are you attacking teachers? Guess what? They don’t make these policies.

And teachers are parents, too. These schedules impact them as parents, as well.

I can repeat concepts as well: teachers receive priority placement in SACC. This does not impact them equally to other parents.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m saying don’t ask for “support” when demanding more from parents who don’t get special status and whose views aren’t being considered. It’s a bad look.

Well, teachers’ views aren’t considered, either. You can choose to work with teachers, or you can view them as the enemy.

I’ve always held the belief that working together is preferable, but you do you. If hostility toward all teachers because -some- teachers get SACC placement works for you, then okay.

All parents are asking is that we have a continuous school schedule. That is it. How are we supposed to "work together" when FCPS keeps cutting class days?

Seriously, you have to stop blaming teachers for things we have absolutely no control over. I mean, we have NONE.

Did you not read the above where it was stated that FCPS keeps cutting class dates? Stop playing the victim here.

This post is literally 32 pages of parents playing the victim.

HAHA this whole FCPS site is parents playing the victim.

Parents advocating for themselves and their children, you mean.