People who ruin neighborhoods (like tkpk) by putting their kids in private school

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

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Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

Yes, living your espoused values of equality, charity, and civic duty is one of the worst things for children. Much better to worship status and materialism.

Your kids are going to resent you.

It’s a huge benefit later in life to be able to say that you are the product of public schools, especially if you get involved in politics.

We haven’t had a president educated in a public high school in the 21st century.

Correct. BTW Biden attended private school from K-12, including when he was “poor” in early childhood (he grew up in the richest neighborhood of his hometown, it is filled with houses that are insanely nice & look like castles). He proceeded to send his sons & daughter to private school from k through college despite when was underwater on his houses & barely LMC in terms of incomes & assets. He hates public schools and has never set foot in one.

So you agree that being a product of the public school system is a huge asset, politically-speaking? J.D. Vance went from no political career whatsoever to the U.S. Senate largely based on his public school upbringing and hardscrabble mythos. I’ll bet he never once mentioned Yale during the campaign.

No it is not an asset.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

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Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

Yes, living your espoused values of equality, charity, and civic duty is one of the worst things for children. Much better to worship status and materialism.

Your kids are going to resent you.

It’s a huge benefit later in life to be able to say that you are the product of public schools, especially if you get involved in politics.

We haven’t had a president educated in a public high school in the 21st century.

Correct. BTW Biden attended private school from K-12, including when he was “poor” in early childhood (he grew up in the richest neighborhood of his hometown, it is filled with houses that are insanely nice & look like castles). He proceeded to send his sons & daughter to private school from k through college despite when was underwater on his houses & barely LMC in terms of incomes & assets. He hates public schools and has never set foot in one.

So you agree that being a product of the public school system is a huge asset, politically-speaking? J.D. Vance went from no political career whatsoever to the U.S. Senate largely based on his public school upbringing and hardscrabble mythos. I’ll bet he never once mentioned Yale during the campaign.

No it is not an asset.

It’s one of the best ways for a politician to connect to voters and demonstrate how much they have in common. Nobody advertises their elite, private school upbringing because everyone recognizes that it was simply gifted to them by their parents. They didn’t earn it.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

The

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

Yes, living your espoused values of equality, charity, and civic duty is one of the worst things for children. Much better to worship status and materialism.

Your kids are going to resent you.

It’s a huge benefit later in life to be able to say that you are the product of public schools, especially if you get involved in politics.

We haven’t had a president educated in a public high school in the 21st century.

Correct. BTW Biden attended private school from K-12, including when he was “poor” in early childhood (he grew up in the richest neighborhood of his hometown, it is filled with houses that are insanely nice & look like castles). He proceeded to send his sons & daughter to private school from k through college despite when was underwater on his houses & barely LMC in terms of incomes & assets. He hates public schools and has never set foot in one.

So you agree that being a product of the public school system is a huge asset, politically-speaking? J.D. Vance went from no political career whatsoever to the U.S. Senate largely based on his public school upbringing and hardscrabble mythos. I’ll bet he never once mentioned Yale during the campaign.

No it is not an asset.

It’s one of the best ways for a politician to connect to voters and demonstrate how much they have in common. Nobody advertises their elite, private school upbringing because everyone recognizes that it was simply gifted to them by their parents. They didn’t earn it.

politicians are pathetic bottom feeders

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Anonymous wrote:My children aren’t circus performers, existing to model proper behavior to animals.

Damn

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

The

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

Yes, living your espoused values of equality, charity, and civic duty is one of the worst things for children. Much better to worship status and materialism.

Your kids are going to resent you.

It’s a huge benefit later in life to be able to say that you are the product of public schools, especially if you get involved in politics.

We haven’t had a president educated in a public high school in the 21st century.

Correct. BTW Biden attended private school from K-12, including when he was “poor” in early childhood (he grew up in the richest neighborhood of his hometown, it is filled with houses that are insanely nice & look like castles). He proceeded to send his sons & daughter to private school from k through college despite when was underwater on his houses & barely LMC in terms of incomes & assets. He hates public schools and has never set foot in one.

So you agree that being a product of the public school system is a huge asset, politically-speaking? J.D. Vance went from no political career whatsoever to the U.S. Senate largely based on his public school upbringing and hardscrabble mythos. I’ll bet he never once mentioned Yale during the campaign.

Okay, this is a bonkerballs summary of Vance's life. Yes, he had an (exaggerated) hardscabble mythos, but he has been groomed for politics since he worked for a GOP politician as an undergraduate. Yale law, where he worked on his memoir (clearly a political step), onward to a hot second in corporate law and then to work for Peter Thiel, who is himself extremely political.

This has been the plan all along, and it is super weird that you are laundering this story of him sort of tripping into politics.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

The

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

Yes, living your espoused values of equality, charity, and civic duty is one of the worst things for children. Much better to worship status and materialism.

Your kids are going to resent you.

It’s a huge benefit later in life to be able to say that you are the product of public schools, especially if you get involved in politics.

We haven’t had a president educated in a public high school in the 21st century.

Correct. BTW Biden attended private school from K-12, including when he was “poor” in early childhood (he grew up in the richest neighborhood of his hometown, it is filled with houses that are insanely nice & look like castles). He proceeded to send his sons & daughter to private school from k through college despite when was underwater on his houses & barely LMC in terms of incomes & assets. He hates public schools and has never set foot in one.

So you agree that being a product of the public school system is a huge asset, politically-speaking? J.D. Vance went from no political career whatsoever to the U.S. Senate largely based on his public school upbringing and hardscrabble mythos. I’ll bet he never once mentioned Yale during the campaign.

Okay, this is a bonkerballs summary of Vance's life. Yes, he had an (exaggerated) hardscabble mythos, but he has been groomed for politics since he worked for a GOP politician as an undergraduate. Yale law, where he worked on his memoir (clearly a political step), onward to a hot second in corporate law and then to work for Peter Thiel, who is himself extremely political.

This has been the plan all along, and it is super weird that you are laundering this story of him sort of tripping into politics.

Vance went to one of the worst public high schools in Ohio (average SAT there is around 990). A school 99% of you would never send your kids to. Major props to him.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that people are having conversations about how “horrible” public schools will be for their kids because of all the low-income kids in one of the most affluent counties in the country is so wild. So many people here are reflecting upon their own bad experiences attending high-poverty schools, but did you attend as a low-income or high-income student? That makes a world of a difference.

I am a Whitman alumni and I would send my kids to Blair tomorrow—magnet or not. It’s a fantastic school with a lot of opportunities.

Say what you want about sending your kids to private school, which is your right. But do not disparage the public schools which are doing a tremendous job and produce better results than the privates you pay $$$ for.

It's the public school parents telling the private school parents why they are sending their children to private. I think you need to direct your suggestion to the public school parents to be more confident of their public schools and be thankful the classrooms are not over crowded because some choose private. Your frustration is misguided. These threads are always started by a jealous/unsatisfied public school parent. Look in the mirror.

Where do your kids go now?

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

The

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

Yes, living your espoused values of equality, charity, and civic duty is one of the worst things for children. Much better to worship status and materialism.

Your kids are going to resent you.

It’s a huge benefit later in life to be able to say that you are the product of public schools, especially if you get involved in politics.

We haven’t had a president educated in a public high school in the 21st century.

Correct. BTW Biden attended private school from K-12, including when he was “poor” in early childhood (he grew up in the richest neighborhood of his hometown, it is filled with houses that are insanely nice & look like castles). He proceeded to send his sons & daughter to private school from k through college despite when was underwater on his houses & barely LMC in terms of incomes & assets. He hates public schools and has never set foot in one.

So you agree that being a product of the public school system is a huge asset, politically-speaking? J.D. Vance went from no political career whatsoever to the U.S. Senate largely based on his public school upbringing and hardscrabble mythos. I’ll bet he never once mentioned Yale during the campaign.

Okay, this is a bonkerballs summary of Vance's life. Yes, he had an (exaggerated) hardscabble mythos, but he has been groomed for politics since he worked for a GOP politician as an undergraduate. Yale law, where he worked on his memoir (clearly a political step), onward to a hot second in corporate law and then to work for Peter Thiel, who is himself extremely political.

This has been the plan all along, and it is super weird that you are laundering this story of him sort of tripping into politics.

Vance went to one of the worst public high schools in Ohio (average SAT there is around 990). A school 99% of you would never send your kids to. Major props to him.

No one said he wasn't smart. He's smart. He has also been on a political track since he was an undergraduate, AND has benefited from wealthy political benefactors looking to leverage his hard luck story, AND holds noxious views that I believe are bad for America. All of those things can be true.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

White savior complex and martyrdom
Prob posts all that generosity on social
Yeah, wishing your kids best of luck, spend some of that dough on tutoring for them

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I don’t think we have many, if any truly *bad* public schools around here. Schools like West Potomac HS, Annandale HS, Einstein HS, South Lakes HS—those are actually really good than what most of the country deals with. I went to school in a small-ish district (approx. 15k kids) that has made a few “worst school districts in America” lists.

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I don’t even know what public schools we are zoned to. Our go to private.

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Anonymous wrote:I get what you’re saying, OP. People are absolutely allowed to be disappointed at this. It reminds me of Kemp Mill in Silver Spring, which is a well-off suburban neighborhood that has a bad elementary school because so many of the locals send their kids to private Jewish schools. When the middle class parents stop caring and participating, schools suffer.

Kemp Mill isn't a "bad" school, test-score wise it's not all that different from other neighboring ESs. Sure, there are a lot of needy kids there but those kids would still be there even if more of the higher-SES Jewish kids attended. Maybe the test scores would be slightly higher but on the flip side it's title 1 status means the class sizes are small.

But really, anyone who moves to Kemp Mill, Woodmoor, etc. and then is surprised that many kids attend the religious school located IN THE SAME NEIGHORHOOD clearly didn't do their homework.

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Anonymous wrote:I get what you’re saying, OP. People are absolutely allowed to be disappointed at this. It reminds me of Kemp Mill in Silver Spring, which is a well-off suburban neighborhood that has a bad elementary school because so many of the locals send their kids to private Jewish schools. When the middle class parents stop caring and participating, schools suffer.

Kemp Mill isn't a "bad" school, test-score wise it's not all that different from other neighboring ESs. Sure, there are a lot of needy kids there but those kids would still be there even if more of the higher-SES Jewish kids attended. Maybe the test scores would be slightly higher but on the flip side it's title 1 status means the class sizes are small.

But really, anyone who moves to Kemp Mill, Woodmoor, etc. and then is surprised that many kids attend the religious school located IN THE SAME NEIGHORHOOD clearly didn't do their homework.

It's great to hear Kemp Mill has improved. In 2019 the staff survey found only 11% of staff felt staff morale was good at the school
https://sharedaccountability.mcpsmd.org/SurveyResults/content.php?l=0&sch=805&survey=2019SSE&type=Staff&comparison=2

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Anonymous wrote:I get what you’re saying, OP. People are absolutely allowed to be disappointed at this. It reminds me of Kemp Mill in Silver Spring, which is a well-off suburban neighborhood that has a bad elementary school because so many of the locals send their kids to private Jewish schools. When the middle class parents stop caring and participating, schools suffer.

Kemp Mill isn't a "bad" school, test-score wise it's not all that different from other neighboring ESs. Sure, there are a lot of needy kids there but those kids would still be there even if more of the higher-SES Jewish kids attended. Maybe the test scores would be slightly higher but on the flip side it's title 1 status means the class sizes are small.

But really, anyone who moves to Kemp Mill, Woodmoor, etc. and then is surprised that many kids attend the religious school located IN THE SAME NEIGHORHOOD clearly didn't do their homework.

I'd extend this to the OP. Anyone who moves to Takoma Park and then is surprised that many kids attend Waldorf schools, Friends schools, or homeschool, then then they didn't do their homework.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

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Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

Well it's not like I announce it at parties. This is anonymous discussion about our choices, and by indicating that I avoid snobby wealthy people, I will inevitably get the response, "Oh, you're just jealous that you can't afford to send your kid to my swanky private school." I was just heading that one off at the pass.

Right, you send your kids to surgically segregated publics instead. So much more noble to do that!

What does surgically segregated mean?

Very carefully drawn boundaries to keep out poor people/subsidized housing/rentals.

Well that quite the assumption.

Our elementary school is 60% economically disadvantaged and 70% Black and brown. Our (unaccredited) middle school has similar stats, and one of the three feeder schools (40% of the school) is horribly hyper-segregated and draws almost entirely from a public housing court. I have kids in both schools.

I'm (secretly) paying for the bus for the school field trip to Luray Caverns. Much better use of my money than the private schools that try to visit our school on their "empathy tour." Our students are not a zoo exhibit to teach you to count your blessings. Sorry that your bubble creates a deficit in this area.

It is child abuse to send your children to horribly failing schools when you have a 7-figure HHI. Enjoy your social experiment while your kids still speak to you.

Yes, living your espoused values of equality, charity, and civic duty is one of the worst things for children. Much better to worship status and materialism.

Your kids are going to resent you.

It’s a huge benefit later in life to be able to say that you are the product of public schools, especially if you get involved in politics.

We haven’t had a president educated in a public high school in the 21st century.

Correct. BTW Biden attended private school from K-12, including when he was “poor” in early childhood (he grew up in the richest neighborhood of his hometown, it is filled with houses that are insanely nice & look like castles). He proceeded to send his sons & daughter to private school from k through college despite when was underwater on his houses & barely LMC in terms of incomes & assets. He hates public schools and has never set foot in one.

This is a dumb metric. Do you think Hillary would have won if she had gone to a private school? If only!