Restorative Justice is struggling to show success in MCPS according to students, parents

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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.
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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.


Not at all when they used RJ to deal with incidents where my child was bullied it resolved the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:Jawandon't use public schools


At the council meeting last week, he told the MCPS head of transportation that his kid likes their bus driver.


His youngest may still be going to MCPS elementary school. The oldest are definitely at SSFS. You can see it in his social media and if you Google, you can find a link of PTA parent donors with his name on there.


OK? Seems like where his kids go to school is a family matter, and none of our business.


When he is advocating to make public schools unsafe for our kids it speaks volumes of his character. His kids get safe schools while ours have to contend with violence, bullying, sexual assaults daily?


I thought he was against SROs? If he's trying to make schools less safe, he would be pro-SRO at least based on the actual studies.


He is against SRO's and any kind of discipline or consequences.


So you're saying he's for making schools safer then since studies indicate their presence makes kids less safe just look at Parkland and Uvalde.

Good thing we aren't in FL or TX.


May as well be since it could happen anywhere given our lax gun laws.

well, gee, gun laws don't work, so might as well get rid of gun laws, period, right?


Maybe you haven't noticed but we don't have any.


Yes, our laws are twisted to make it easy for dangerous and unstable people to easily acquire more dangerous weapons. Any attempt to end that is opposed by GOP hardliners despite broad support from over 80% of the population.


Because the real agenda is to disarm the law-abiding and we all know it.
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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.


Not at all when they used RJ to deal with incidents where my child was bullied it resolved the problem.


I’m the PP. I’m happy it worked for your child. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work for many. I’ve had students (the bully of the class included) openly laugh about the pointlessness of the sessions. That’s my experience with them.
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Anonymous wrote:Jawandon't use public schools


At the council meeting last week, he told the MCPS head of transportation that his kid likes their bus driver.


His youngest may still be going to MCPS elementary school. The oldest are definitely at SSFS. You can see it in his social media and if you Google, you can find a link of PTA parent donors with his name on there.


OK? Seems like where his kids go to school is a family matter, and none of our business.


When he is advocating to make public schools unsafe for our kids it speaks volumes of his character. His kids get safe schools while ours have to contend with violence, bullying, sexual assaults daily?


I thought he was against SROs? If he's trying to make schools less safe, he would be pro-SRO at least based on the actual studies.


He is against SRO's and any kind of discipline or consequences.


So you're saying he's for making schools safer then since studies indicate their presence makes kids less safe just look at Parkland and Uvalde.

Good thing we aren't in FL or TX.


May as well be since it could happen anywhere given our lax gun laws.

well, gee, gun laws don't work, so might as well get rid of gun laws, period, right?


Maybe you haven't noticed but we don't have any.


Yes, our laws are twisted to make it easy for dangerous and unstable people to easily acquire more dangerous weapons. Any attempt to end that is opposed by GOP hardliners despite broad support from over 80% of the population.

The most recent school killer was under psychiatric treatment, so they should not have had the ability to legally buy a gun. Don’t you think the parents should be held responsible since they knew about the gun purchase history of their killer child, who had had guns in the parents’ home?


people who shouldn't be able to buy guns are always able to get them because we need serious gun reform


It is a shame that mentally unbalanced people are easily able to acquire military grade assault rifles to commit these heinous crimes

Simple solution:
Hold the psychiatrist accountable who failed to red flag his mentally ill patient.


LOL they'd still be able to buy guns
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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.


Not at all when they used RJ to deal with incidents where my child was bullied it resolved the problem.


I’m the PP. I’m happy it worked for your child. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work for many. I’ve had students (the bully of the class included) openly laugh about the pointlessness of the sessions. That’s my experience with them.


That's not true. I get that you don't like it but from what I can see it works great when it's used.
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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.


Not at all when they used RJ to deal with incidents where my child was bullied it resolved the problem.


I’m the PP. I’m happy it worked for your child. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work for many. I’ve had students (the bully of the class included) openly laugh about the pointlessness of the sessions. That’s my experience with them.


That's not true. I get that you don't like it but from what I can see it works great when it's used.


These posters hate anything that doesn't involve armed SROs beating kids with clubs. It's not like they can support their claims with any real evidence. They just say oh it doesn't work because I don't like it.
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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.


Not at all when they used RJ to deal with incidents where my child was bullied it resolved the problem.


I’m the PP. I’m happy it worked for your child. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work for many. I’ve had students (the bully of the class included) openly laugh about the pointlessness of the sessions. That’s my experience with them.


That's not true. I get that you don't like it but from what I can see it works great when it's used.


These posters hate anything that doesn't involve armed SROs beating kids with clubs. It's not like they can support their claims with any real evidence. They just say oh it doesn't work because I don't like it.


Can you support any of your claims with evidence?
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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.


Not at all when they used RJ to deal with incidents where my child was bullied it resolved the problem.


I’m the PP. I’m happy it worked for your child. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work for many. I’ve had students (the bully of the class included) openly laugh about the pointlessness of the sessions. That’s my experience with them.


That's not true. I get that you don't like it but from what I can see it works great when it's used.


What have you seen?

All I've heard about is revictimized victims by forcing them to face their perpetrators against their well.
Anonymous
Oh no. Do you mean raising the kids to act like criminal rejects is not the way to instill values of hard work respect and self-respect. Oh darn we (the office personnel who are clueless) thought we were on to something when we were giving candy and taking the side of children when they were intimidating their teachers.
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RJ saved my marriage!
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https://www.vox.com/22979070/restorative-justice-forgiveness-limits-promise

"The promise — and problem — of restorative justice
Who is restorative justice restoring?"
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Anonymous wrote:so please clarify---this RJ in public schools means that if my kid is assaulted or bullied that nothing happens to the offender? They are basically talked to and thats about it?


That’s how it works at my former school. It really isn’t for the victim. The victim’s role is to help the perpetrator gain perspective and see the wrong in their actions.

So the victim gets victimized again by reliving the event, and the perpetrator just has to play along until the session is over. Then they are free to go commit the same action again.

I hated RJ sessions, and I listed them as one of the reasons I left.


Not at all when they used RJ to deal with incidents where my child was bullied it resolved the problem.

It may work for very young children who are still impressionable and sensitive, but it doesn't work for teens. Do these administrators even know how teens are? My teens said no teenager takes RJ seriously.
Anonymous
The school system administration just needs a few more million. Once they all get their second beach homes they will be able to figure it out better with more relaxing vacations
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Anonymous wrote:The school system administration just needs a few more million. Once they all get their second beach homes they will be able to figure it out better with more relaxing vacations


El Rich is working on it.
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