I'm a rationale conservative - can you convince me voting rights legislation is needed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, this is totally fine, right?

It appears that this is an unusual situation.....

He won just over 40% of the vote in the primary. Since there was no other candidates for other parties, there is no special general election - originally scheduled for March 8.

Seems as if your little twitter friend above is trying to create a scandal where none exists. It is a matter of rules and procedures.

Democratic Rep.-elect Daryl Campbell won a four-way Primary Election on Jan. 11 to succeed outgoing Rep. Bobby DuBose in Broward County’s House District 94. Since no other parties fielded qualifying candidates in the district that covers parts of Fort Lauderdale, Plantation and Wilton Manors, Campbell is the de facto winner of the General Election, which was scheduled for March 8.

Campbell said that conversations with Republican Speaker Chris Sprowls’ office and his Democratic colleagues have led him to believe he will be sworn in this week — although he hasn’t received the schedule for it yet.

Campbell won slightly more than 40 percent of the vote in a universal primary and Broward County’s Supervisor of Election Joe Scott pushed for Campbell to be seated immediately. But the Democratic leadership in the House believed initially, after the election, that the Secretary of State’s Office would not certify Campbell’s victory until after the scheduled General Election on March 8, as has happened in the past.

The Secretary of State’s communications office said that Campbell’s Primary win will be certified on Tuesday. But spokeswoman Mallory Morgan has not given a definitive answer to a Jan. 13 question from Florida Politics on whether the Primary Election’s result certification will be enough to mean that Campbell gets a seat in the current Session.

On Thursday, Morgan wrote: “Our office is working on your request. Thank you for your patience.”

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/489102-daryl-campbell-comes-to-tallahassee-this-week-but-his-start-day-remains-uncertain/

If it were a republican, they would have been sworn in the moment the race was called.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, this is totally fine, right?

It appears that this is an unusual situation.....

He won just over 40% of the vote in the primary. Since there was no other candidates for other parties, there is no special general election - originally scheduled for March 8.

Seems as if your little twitter friend above is trying to create a scandal where none exists. It is a matter of rules and procedures.

Democratic Rep.-elect Daryl Campbell won a four-way Primary Election on Jan. 11 to succeed outgoing Rep. Bobby DuBose in Broward County’s House District 94. Since no other parties fielded qualifying candidates in the district that covers parts of Fort Lauderdale, Plantation and Wilton Manors, Campbell is the de facto winner of the General Election, which was scheduled for March 8.

Campbell said that conversations with Republican Speaker Chris Sprowls’ office and his Democratic colleagues have led him to believe he will be sworn in this week — although he hasn’t received the schedule for it yet.

Campbell won slightly more than 40 percent of the vote in a universal primary and Broward County’s Supervisor of Election Joe Scott pushed for Campbell to be seated immediately. But the Democratic leadership in the House believed initially, after the election, that the Secretary of State’s Office would not certify Campbell’s victory until after the scheduled General Election on March 8, as has happened in the past.

The Secretary of State’s communications office said that Campbell’s Primary win will be certified on Tuesday. But spokeswoman Mallory Morgan has not given a definitive answer to a Jan. 13 question from Florida Politics on whether the Primary Election’s result certification will be enough to mean that Campbell gets a seat in the current Session.

On Thursday, Morgan wrote: “Our office is working on your request. Thank you for your patience.”

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/489102-daryl-campbell-comes-to-tallahassee-this-week-but-his-start-day-remains-uncertain/

If it were a republican, they would have been sworn in the moment the race was called.

DeSantis set the general election date as late as possible knowing this is a majority-Black Democratic district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The Texas AG already admitted that Texas is true blue and only the GOP’s interference has kept it red.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So in the GOP's eyes, the results of an election don't matter as long as the party can dictate who is declared the winner.

This is the thing that’s unavoidably undemocratic. I think Republicans have had enough time and enough elections to wave away various forms of voter suppression and the people who cook up the GOP’s talking points have them down pat. But there is no way to hand wave away just flat out changing an election/refusing to certify/etc. It is openly undemocratic.

And that is why there are crickets when it’s brought up.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the OP responding on this thread anymore or hiding his irrationality under the veneer of anonymity?

DP: There are dozens, if not hundreds of posts where the OP purports to be an immigrant trying to understand some aspect of life in the United States, or a “reasonable Republican” who wants to be “convinced” of something that’s outside of the current QPublican litany. There are even , occasionally, people who claim to be one of the few “black” women who describe themselves with a small “b”, or a “POC” who never seems to drop any other ethnic or racial or even cultural details beyond stereotypes added in later — like listening to “rap” music and such. They drop in, start a conversation about something potentially controversial, and never identify themselves again within the conversation.

I’m guessing that they get paid to sow dissent. Or they’re doing it for the fun of it — and forgot which threads they started.

[Anonymous]

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Thanks for posting this. So, no Sunday voting — when Sunday, traditionally, has been the only day people have time off — if they work directly for a family ( Housekeeper, Yard work, etc.) or a privately owned small business. I don’t know how it impacts this particular area, but it’s chillingly reminiscent of the laws that reduced the opportunity for Black citizens to vote in the not at all distant past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for posting this. So, no Sunday voting — when Sunday, traditionally, has been the only day people have time off — if they work directly for a family ( Housekeeper, Yard work, etc.) or a privately owned small business. I don’t know how it impacts this particular area, but it’s chillingly reminiscent of the laws that reduced the opportunity for Black citizens to vote in the not at all distant past.

Where are you, rational conservative OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for posting this. So, no Sunday voting — when Sunday, traditionally, has been the only day people have time off — if they work directly for a family ( Housekeeper, Yard work, etc.) or a privately owned small business. I don’t know how it impacts this particular area, but it’s chillingly reminiscent of the laws that reduced the opportunity for Black citizens to vote in the not at all distant past.

That’s exactly what it is. Jim Crow 2.0.

[Anonymous]

this is fine

[Anonymous]

good question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is fine

ItS jUsT tHe fRiNgE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for posting this. So, no Sunday voting — when Sunday, traditionally, has been the only day people have time off — if they work directly for a family ( Housekeeper, Yard work, etc.) or a privately owned small business. I don’t know how it impacts this particular area, but it’s chillingly reminiscent of the laws that reduced the opportunity for Black citizens to vote in the not at all distant past.

That’s exactly what it is. Jim Crow 2.0.

Pretty sure this has something to do with Spalding Co. Evidently, the 2020 election was a $hitshow there.

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Georgia state legislators from Spalding County are calling for the resignation or termination of county election supervisor Marcia Ridley after examples of "serious management issues and poor decision-making" were uncovered during the Nov. 3 general election.

n a release, Raffensperger said, "County elections officials are responsible for ensuring the voting process is smooth and efficient and must take responsibility when they fail."
Problems with voting machines at precincts in Spalding County early on the morning of Election Day, resulted in voters there facing long lines and being forced to use provisional ballots for more than two hours.
On Nov. 3, Ridley told 11Alive the people who make the voting machines caught the issue at 7:05 a.m. and a technician had to go to each precinct to reset the poll pads. Nearly two hours after the polls were supposed to be open, election officials said they were up and running.
In Spalding County -- a solidly red county located about 45 minutes south of Atlanta -- all 18 precincts were hit with problems that were ultimately traced to the poll pads used to check voters in.
One voter told 11Alive on Election Day that she saw a lot of people leaving one precinct after they were told the machines were down.
"There's a lot of people that left within the past hour and a half. Hopefully, they come back and everybody gets their vote in, but right now, there is a lot of people who left within 30 minutes after they said the machines were down," she said.
Precincts in Spalding County eventually remained open beyond their scheduled 7 p.m. closing time to accommodate inconvenienced voters.

According to Raffensperger's release, if voting machines are not working normally, county election superintendents have been trained to use a number of workarounds to allow voters to cast ballots using the ballot marking devices like other voters.
"If that is impossible, which was not the case in Spalding County, Georgia law instructs county elections superintendents to conduct voting in those locations on emergency ballots, which are scanned immediately like other ballots cast in person on Election Day," the release said.

None of this was done in Spalding County, according to Raffensperger's release. Instead, Radley instructed her workers to use provisional ballots, which are processed differently.
According to the release, Radley claimed that an update had been made to the voting system on the night before Election Day, that caused problems with the voting machines.
No such update had been made, nor had the machines been touched in the days leading up to the election, the release said.
"By spreading this baseless and thoroughly inaccurate rumor, Ridley greatly harmed election integrity in Georgia and provided talking points for those looking to undermine elections in the Peach State," the release said.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/elections/state-officials-call-for-firing-or-resignation-of-spalding-co-election-supervisor/85-fcada5fd-f7c3-4c6e-b9c4-a925697fb890

[Anonymous]

“For months, however, Texas has been refusing to produce its voter roll maintenance records to CLC and other pro-democracy civil rights organizations.

Transparency in states’ maintenance of their voter rolls is imperative to ensure that every voter can successfully cast their ballot in their state of residence.

Therefore, on Feb. 1, 2022, CLC, along with American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Texas, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and DĒMOS, filed a complaint in federal court to compel Texas to produce the requested records pursuant to the NVRA’s public disclosure requirement.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“For months, however, Texas has been refusing to produce its voter roll maintenance records to CLC and other pro-democracy civil rights organizations.

Transparency in states’ maintenance of their voter rolls is imperative to ensure that every voter can successfully cast their ballot in their state of residence.

Therefore, on Feb. 1, 2022, CLC, along with American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Texas, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and DĒMOS, filed a complaint in federal court to compel Texas to produce the requested records pursuant to the NVRA’s public disclosure requirement.”

If they make that public, they’re gonna give away the game and all the minorities and suspected Democratic voters who have been thrown off the rolls will be able to re-register!