Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"If you are on the top team in SoCal and your very good coaches have the ability to arrange for your team to participate in tournaments with Barcelona's youth squads, you are in an excellent position to be scouted."

There are opportunities in the DMV for kids to make teams that play in European tournaments (including Barcelona) over spring break and the summer.

Yes. I do not think it was said anywhere that the kid was scouted/identified at a Club game.

For all we know he might not have been on US soil.

I love how the vultures, dick heads and naysayers come out of the woodwork though.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is even a topic. A kid from a club's C team may or may not have an opportunity to train with a European team. Great. I think it's time we can move along from that.

I think it became a topic (after the mom brought it up) because the scenario didnt make a lot of sense until she clarified the passport issue, then it segued into a more general discussion about scouting. It's definitely a notable thing if the kid does end up training overseas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Loudoun parent and I would take my daughters to anyone but FCV. I don't want anything to do with that club. Some of the stories coming from FCV parents are unbelievable. Coaches not showing up for games. Not helping players improve their game after committing to colleges. No thank you

Yup, all true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"If you are on the top team in SoCal and your very good coaches have the ability to arrange for your team to participate in tournaments with Barcelona's youth squads, you are in an excellent position to be scouted."

There are opportunities in the DMV for kids to make teams that play in European tournaments (including Barcelona) over spring break and the summer.

Yes. I do not think it was said anywhere that the kid was scouted/identified at a Club game.

For all we know he might not have been on US soil.

I love how the vultures, dick heads and naysayers come out of the woodwork though.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is even a topic. A kid from a club's C team may or may not have an opportunity to train with a European team. Great. I think it's time we can move along from that.

Agree. I think it's tragic that (what I assume are travel coaches and TDs) basically saying any 11-year old on a lower team is a shit player with zero future. Tells you they don't develop. Some stupid US ranking by a US youth club coach holds zero weight abroad.

Carry on.

That's the predominant attitude across the DMV. They also give a lot of weight to another Club's assessment of a kid at 8 and beyond--which is just stupid. Every tryout application from 8/9 on the child must list the team level he plays for and then he/she will get shunted to the appropriate tryout field (the one that nobody is looking at) or the one that only A level players are put. How do you think the young Academy works--at 11 you only get an invite if you are on an A team? Sure missing a whole helluva lot of talent in this system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Loudoun parent and I would take my daughters to anyone but FCV. I don't want anything to do with that club. Some of the stories coming from FCV parents are unbelievable. Coaches not showing up for games. Not helping players improve their game after committing to colleges. No thank you

What are you options? Just curious

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"If you are on the top team in SoCal and your very good coaches have the ability to arrange for your team to participate in tournaments with Barcelona's youth squads, you are in an excellent position to be scouted."

There are opportunities in the DMV for kids to make teams that play in European tournaments (including Barcelona) over spring break and the summer.

Yes. I do not think it was said anywhere that the kid was scouted/identified at a Club game.

For all we know he might not have been on US soil.

I love how the vultures, dick heads and naysayers come out of the woodwork though.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is even a topic. A kid from a club's C team may or may not have an opportunity to train with a European team. Great. I think it's time we can move along from that.

Agree. I think it's tragic that (what I assume are travel coaches and TDs) basically saying any 11-year old on a lower team is a shit player with zero future. Tells you they don't develop. Some stupid US ranking by a US youth club coach holds zero weight abroad.

Carry on.

That's the predominant attitude across the DMV. They also give a lot of weight to another Club's assessment of a kid at 8 and beyond--which is just stupid. Every tryout application from 8/9 on the child must list the team level he plays for and then he/she will get shunted to the appropriate tryout field (the one that nobody is looking at) or the one that only A level players are put. How do you think the young Academy works--at 11 you only get an invite if you are on an A team? Sure missing a whole helluva lot of talent in this system.

I'm just going to flip it around this way -- a lot of parents think their kids are the next Christian Pulisic, and they've convinced that if Barcelona or Ajax or Bayern Munich got a look at their NCSL Div. 6 phenom, he'd have a golden ticket.

It's one thing to say USSF botched the selection of the U17s in a given year. It's one thing to say Arlington has kids on its C team who should be on an A team. It's another to say the club coaches overlooked a player who would make one of the top 20 or even top 100 youth programs in the **world**.

And look -- everyone gets it wrong at some point. Look at the winners of the U17 and U20 World Cup Golden Ball and Golden Boot awards. Then see where they're playing now. A couple of doing pretty well. Others are barely hanging on in the Mexican second division. Things change.

And still, I can guarantee you there is no player on a Northern Virginia C team who's good enough to play at a major European club academy. None.

[Anonymous]

The two ECNL clubs are options. I think I will let my daughters tryout at both clubs and let them decide which club is best for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"If you are on the top team in SoCal and your very good coaches have the ability to arrange for your team to participate in tournaments with Barcelona's youth squads, you are in an excellent position to be scouted."

There are opportunities in the DMV for kids to make teams that play in European tournaments (including Barcelona) over spring break and the summer.

Yes. I do not think it was said anywhere that the kid was scouted/identified at a Club game.

For all we know he might not have been on US soil.

I love how the vultures, dick heads and naysayers come out of the woodwork though.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is even a topic. A kid from a club's C team may or may not have an opportunity to train with a European team. Great. I think it's time we can move along from that.

Agree. I think it's tragic that (what I assume are travel coaches and TDs) basically saying any 11-year old on a lower team is a shit player with zero future. Tells you they don't develop. Some stupid US ranking by a US youth club coach holds zero weight abroad.

Carry on.

That's the predominant attitude across the DMV. They also give a lot of weight to another Club's assessment of a kid at 8 and beyond--which is just stupid. Every tryout application from 8/9 on the child must list the team level he plays for and then he/she will get shunted to the appropriate tryout field (the one that nobody is looking at) or the one that only A level players are put. How do you think the young Academy works--at 11 you only get an invite if you are on an A team? Sure missing a whole helluva lot of talent in this system.

I'm just going to flip it around this way -- a lot of parents think their kids are the next Christian Pulisic, and they've convinced that if Barcelona or Ajax or Bayern Munich got a look at their NCSL Div. 6 phenom, he'd have a golden ticket.

It's one thing to say USSF botched the selection of the U17s in a given year. It's one thing to say Arlington has kids on its C team who should be on an A team. It's another to say the club coaches overlooked a player who would make one of the top 20 or even top 100 youth programs in the **world**.

And look -- everyone gets it wrong at some point. Look at the winners of the U17 and U20 World Cup Golden Ball and Golden Boot awards. Then see where they're playing now. A couple of doing pretty well. Others are barely hanging on in the Mexican second division. Things change.

And still, I can guarantee you there is no player on a Northern Virginia C team who's good enough to play at a major European club academy. None.

And I am going to say that at U9-U12 that designation "C" (as well as the other letters) means absolute shit. The majority of the "A" team kids aren't even on the "A" team by 15.

With the attitude you possess--it's no wonder kids leave the sport in droves by middle school.

At least the Europeans continue to give opportunities and don't even expect a player to be fully matured until his early 20s. By then--a US soccer players career is over. Hell---by most Clubs its over at 11 with your analogy, correct ?

It's good for business to have parents think you are the ultimate decider though.

[Anonymous]

I hope all the parents with B-F players in the 8-12 years old are following this Club TD's insistence that a kid is shit if he isn't on the A team by then.

It might be time to stop paying these assholes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"If you are on the top team in SoCal and your very good coaches have the ability to arrange for your team to participate in tournaments with Barcelona's youth squads, you are in an excellent position to be scouted."

There are opportunities in the DMV for kids to make teams that play in European tournaments (including Barcelona) over spring break and the summer.

Yes. I do not think it was said anywhere that the kid was scouted/identified at a Club game.

For all we know he might not have been on US soil.

I love how the vultures, dick heads and naysayers come out of the woodwork though.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is even a topic. A kid from a club's C team may or may not have an opportunity to train with a European team. Great. I think it's time we can move along from that.

Agree. I think it's tragic that (what I assume are travel coaches and TDs) basically saying any 11-year old on a lower team is a shit player with zero future. Tells you they don't develop. Some stupid US ranking by a US youth club coach holds zero weight abroad.

Carry on.

That's the predominant attitude across the DMV. They also give a lot of weight to another Club's assessment of a kid at 8 and beyond--which is just stupid. Every tryout application from 8/9 on the child must list the team level he plays for and then he/she will get shunted to the appropriate tryout field (the one that nobody is looking at) or the one that only A level players are put. How do you think the young Academy works--at 11 you only get an invite if you are on an A team? Sure missing a whole helluva lot of talent in this system.

I'm just going to flip it around this way -- a lot of parents think their kids are the next Christian Pulisic, and they've convinced that if Barcelona or Ajax or Bayern Munich got a look at their NCSL Div. 6 phenom, he'd have a golden ticket.

It's one thing to say USSF botched the selection of the U17s in a given year. It's one thing to say Arlington has kids on its C team who should be on an A team. It's another to say the club coaches overlooked a player who would make one of the top 20 or even top 100 youth programs in the **world**.

And look -- everyone gets it wrong at some point. Look at the winners of the U17 and U20 World Cup Golden Ball and Golden Boot awards. Then see where they're playing now. A couple of doing pretty well. Others are barely hanging on in the Mexican second division. Things change.

And still, I can guarantee you there is no player on a Northern Virginia C team who's good enough to play at a major European club academy. None.

And I am going to say that at U9-U12 that designation "C" (as well as the other letters) means absolute shit. The majority of the "A" team kids aren't even on the "A" team by 15.

With the attitude you possess--it's no wonder kids leave the sport in droves by middle school.

At least the Europeans continue to give opportunities and don't even expect a player to be fully matured until his early 20s. By then--a US soccer players career is over. Hell---by most Clubs its over at 11 with your analogy, correct ?

It's good for business to have parents think you are the ultimate decider though.

WOW. Just wow.

You realize parents are talking about kids 11-years old and younger? You know every 8-11 year old in this large area and how they are training on their own time, their lineage and their future growth potential?

I think Pep better watch out...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope all the parents with B-F players in the 8-12 years old are following this Club TD's insistence that a kid is shit if he isn't on the A team by then.

It might be time to stop paying these assholes.

Maybe it's his fault he can't develop for shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The two ECNL clubs are options. I think I will let my daughters tryout at both clubs and let them decide which club is best for them.

Not sure where you live...but the VDA DA academy is an option as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"If you are on the top team in SoCal and your very good coaches have the ability to arrange for your team to participate in tournaments with Barcelona's youth squads, you are in an excellent position to be scouted."

There are opportunities in the DMV for kids to make teams that play in European tournaments (including Barcelona) over spring break and the summer.

Yes. I do not think it was said anywhere that the kid was scouted/identified at a Club game.

For all we know he might not have been on US soil.

I love how the vultures, dick heads and naysayers come out of the woodwork though.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is even a topic. A kid from a club's C team may or may not have an opportunity to train with a European team. Great. I think it's time we can move along from that.

Agree. I think it's tragic that (what I assume are travel coaches and TDs) basically saying any 11-year old on a lower team is a shit player with zero future. Tells you they don't develop. Some stupid US ranking by a US youth club coach holds zero weight abroad.

Carry on.

That's the predominant attitude across the DMV. They also give a lot of weight to another Club's assessment of a kid at 8 and beyond--which is just stupid. Every tryout application from 8/9 on the child must list the team level he plays for and then he/she will get shunted to the appropriate tryout field (the one that nobody is looking at) or the one that only A level players are put. How do you think the young Academy works--at 11 you only get an invite if you are on an A team? Sure missing a whole helluva lot of talent in this system.

I'm just going to flip it around this way -- a lot of parents think their kids are the next Christian Pulisic, and they've convinced that if Barcelona or Ajax or Bayern Munich got a look at their NCSL Div. 6 phenom, he'd have a golden ticket.

It's one thing to say USSF botched the selection of the U17s in a given year. It's one thing to say Arlington has kids on its C team who should be on an A team. It's another to say the club coaches overlooked a player who would make one of the top 20 or even top 100 youth programs in the **world**.

And look -- everyone gets it wrong at some point. Look at the winners of the U17 and U20 World Cup Golden Ball and Golden Boot awards. Then see where they're playing now. A couple of doing pretty well. Others are barely hanging on in the Mexican second division. Things change.

And still, I can guarantee you there is no player on a Northern Virginia C team who's good enough to play at a major European club academy. None.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it couldn't happen. Recall that from what we know this is a kid whose uncle is/was a pro player, and if I'm remembering the posters background, the mom was a high level player as a kid. A family like that might be fine with having the kid on whatever local team they are happy with, because they are confident they can give him the extra training he needs to be ready to move onto a higher level team when he's older.

I do agree that people on here seem to overstate how often super-talented kids are overlooked in favor of bigger, stronger, skill-less lunks though. It happens, but it's not the epidemic it's made out to be.

[Anonymous]

Question for parents that have kids on the new DA teams at Loudoun, Arlington, Mclean:

were you happy with the first season? Did you like the training? The coaching? Do you see a big difference than what you got on the team you came from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The two ECNL clubs are options. I think I will let my daughters tryout at both clubs and let them decide which club is best for them.

Start making contact now. This is going to be an even more interesting spring than last year with all the girls re-evaluating their options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The two ECNL clubs are options. I think I will let my daughters tryout at both clubs and let them decide which club is best for them.

Start making contact now. This is going to be an even more interesting spring than last year with all the girls re-evaluating their options.

This is going to be one crazy ride...