Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.


Yeah right.


What if it’s true? Why don’t you want it to be true?
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Anonymous wrote:I thought they said he lived with his parents?

Not the last 3-4 years. Come on.

He graduated high school four years ago.


Plenty of young adults live with their parents it’s not an absurd thought to have.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs


Anyone???
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Anonymous wrote:

EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.


Yeah right.


What if it’s true? Why don’t you want it to be true?


Why do you want it to be true?
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sorry, David Shuster is not "disgraced" just because he used to work for MSNBC. He also worked for FOX, doesn't that raise his stature?

There is a lot of evidence coming out and it all points to the killer being immersed in a dark gaming world that is highly influenced by the alt-right. The only so-called evidence of left ideology is a clear misinterpretation, given that the reference is obviously to gaming, not to WWII (please, can we listen to the kids who are familiar with his world and stop pretending he was a history scholar?)

If new totally contradictory evidence comes out to show that he was in fact a radical leftist, I for one promise to come back to this thread and say, "I was wrong."



I'll take the opinion of a person who is close to the investigation - the Governor of Utah - over a reporter who evidently cannot hold a job very long at any given network and who knows nothing about the investigation and chooses to speculate about it. He has provided zero evidence of his claim.
And as for that "left ideology," all I need to hear was "Hey Fascist! Catch!" Sounds A LOT like the language the left has been spouting for about 10 years now.


The governor of Utah isn't familiar with the internet/gamer meme culture the shooter was steeped in. He is interpreting the bullet scrawlings literally, an out of touch geezer speaking out of turn to suit is narrative. Which is what all the Right is doing right now to avoid the truth. This guy isn't who you've been calling for violence against. He is a homegrown radical; radicalized by the alt-right.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs


There is data and studies out on unqualified dei hire’s grades, tests scores, performance, lawsuits. Same with unskilled, uneducated, illiterate illegal immigrants. Same with handgun deaths in every country.

Data and peer reviewed studies are out there. And they’re not OpEds or XYZ Studies surveys or opinion papers.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs


There is data and studies out on unqualified dei hire’s grades, tests scores, performance, lawsuits. Same with unskilled, uneducated, illiterate illegal immigrants. Same with handgun deaths in every country.

Data and peer reviewed studies are out there. And they’re not OpEds or XYZ Studies surveys or opinion papers.


Like this?

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/diversity-matters-even-more-the-case-for-holistic-impact
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Anonymous wrote:I thought they said he lived with his parents?

Not the last 3-4 years. Come on.

He graduated high school four years ago.


Plenty of young adults live with their parents it’s not an absurd thought to have.


It’s already been cited on natl news he lived in an apartment with a roommate.

Why apply random generalizations about failure to launchers and post them here as Bs rhetorical questions.

Wtf so people here do for a living at work? Jsut make up $hit constantly? Yikes.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Erika Kirk is creepy. Watch a few videos of her. There is one in which she and Charlie confer about how she is "far more conservative than he is" and she proudly proclaims to be "very far right." She was also 5-6 years older than he was which is really atypical for their culture. [/quote]

It’s so weird the alt-right and these super religious people have this weird look in their eyes.

You can tell when somebody is just pretending from moneybecause they don’t have crazy eyes[/quote]

yep. she comes across very harsh.
There is nothing soft, Jesus-like, submissive wife about her which is weird because that is her message but her persona says she'd cut a bi$%tch in about 5 seconds flat.
I went down a whole Erika Kirk video rabbit trail the other night.
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It’ll be interesting to see if she can continue TP. She certainly sounds as divisive as he was.

Erika Kirk vowed in a speech today to continue her husband’s movement and said that “the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” USA Today reports.

Said Kirk: “If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you’ve just unleashed across this entire country, and this world. You have no idea the fire you’ve ignited within this wife.”

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Hmm. Sorry, gravy train will stop:
1.Her husband had some warmth and charisma, she doesn't.
2. Also, the conservative ecosystem wants its males to lead large movements. Women influencers in the conservative sphere, of which there are many, have to fight for a much smaller slice of the pie and usually their followers are other conservative women.

This family is done for now. Maybe in the fullness of time she can marry another male influencer and carry him to success. This appears to be her talent: pushing a husband to lead. I respect that. It's no small feat.

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Yes. She's the JD Vance of the pairing. No charisma, no warmth, no likability. Charlie had charisma in spades and just the right amount of good looks that appealed to both men and women, young people and their middle aged mothers. [/quote]

Are you...blind? Charlie Kirk was hideous, almost deformed. [/quote]

+1 His wife is beautiful, he wasn’t. His head and face were weird.[/quote]

So, we are at the place in the discussion where you are criticizing the appearance of someone brutally murdered and the "charisma" of his widow.
DCUM never fails to disappoint in the shallowness of discussion. [b]You people could have learned something from Charlie Kirk. [/b]
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We did. Empathy is dangerous.

[twitter]https://x.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1580241307515383808[/twitter][/quote]

Amazing that people who say this also claim to be devout Christians[/quote]

Can you paste the whole transcript, I’d like to know the whole context and how and why that response came up.

Conflating empathy for a killer for justice?
Making excuses for someone’s bad decision?

I can be empathetic to the drugged up criminal who knifed that girl to death in then subway, AND still want him imprisoned for life. But I won’t let him go free a 15th time because I’m “empathetic.” Don’t conflate empathy with naïveté. [/quote]

Charlie Kirk's position on empathy:

- Empathy, while often seen as a virtue, can be a tool used to manipulate emotions and push ideological agendas, particularly by the left.

- Empathy has been "hijacked" to promote policies like open borders or leniency toward crime, which he believed undermine societal order and harm society as a whole.

- Empathy should not override reason, justice, or truth, and that conservatives should prioritize principles like family, faith, and national sovereignty over emotional appeals.

- He did not entirely dismiss empathy, acknowledging it as a natural human response but urging it be tempered with discernment.


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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs



I’ll address the first and third quotes since those are the ones I am familiar with. The comment about the black pilot was from a larger discussion about how one of the drawbacks of DEI is that it places doubt as to whether accomplished Black people got to their positions due to DEI and how that doubt hurts them. If you watch the entire clip he is definitely not saying that he thinks that Black people are inherently unqualified to be pilots.

As far as the widely quoted statement as to how he thought a certain number of gun deaths was an unfortunate cost to having the second amendment…. As someone who hates guns and would like to see them banned, I get what he was saying. He feels the second amendment is so important that the fact that a certain number of innocent people will die is something that needs to be tolerated. I mean don’t all of us share this opinion on some topics? The thing could be said for driving cars. Obviously a certain number of people are going to die in car accidents due to allowing cars on tje road, but the greater benefit to society is worth it.
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EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.


Yeah right.


What if it’s true? Why don’t you want it to be true?


Why do you want it to be true?


New pp here. +1 why??

Also, what’s the chances of this in Utah? Also what does it even matter? If his girlfriend isn’t transgender, would you feel bad for her because now she’s getting all this negative attention related to her boyfriend? And now let’s say she is transgender, is your response she’s a bad person and so are all transgender people because her boyfriend did a thing?

I personally don’t believe it’s true. They’ve been desperately pushing a trans narrative for days at every possible turn. And even if it is true, people just want to use it in a way that would be different than if he had a girlfriend that isn’t trans or even a boyfriend. But don’t worry, they aren’t transphobic.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs


Anyone???


He was a demagogue, prone to clear, black and white thinking. I think a lot of people are like this, because it allows them to articulate a position, conservative or liberal, and find supportive evidence for any position they want to take. I don't know why people like to listen to personalities like this, on any side. His whole "prove me wrong" schtick was a gimmick.

I think people like him, loudmouths who use their platform to project such divisive, harmful rhetoric, need to be on alert, because we are entering a new phase.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs


There is data and studies out on unqualified dei hire’s grades, tests scores, performance, lawsuits. Same with unskilled, uneducated, illiterate illegal immigrants. Same with handgun deaths in every country.

Data and peer reviewed studies are out there. And they’re not OpEds or XYZ Studies surveys or opinion papers.


Why is it so hard to understand that when people assume if you’re black you’re not qualified?
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Anonymous wrote:Someone on DCUM claimed that Charlie Kirk condoned the stoning of gay people. That sounded extreme, so I started looking into it. I came across a news story titled, “Stephen King Apologizes for Claiming Charlie Kirk ‘Advocated Stoning Gays’: ‘This Is What I Get for Reading X Without Fact-Checking.’” (https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/stephen-king-apologizes-charlie-kirk-stoning-gays-1236516429/)

It made me wonder: how many of the extreme, hateful claims attributed to Kirk are actually false? And how much did these falsehoods contribute to the climate that led to his assassination? He was compared to a Nazi, an accusation that, if widely accepted, would make his death something to be celebrated by many. But was that comparison fair?

Before he was assassinated, I had never even heard of him. Afterward, I read an article compiling his most well-known quotes (listed below). They were definitely conservative, but none struck me as Nazi-like. From what I saw, he was simply an American with right-leaning views, open to debate like anyone else in a democratic society.

Well-known Quotes of Charlie Kirk:
“Our founders did not establish this nation and shed their blood to see it become the world’s greatest debtor nation.”

“It is the responsibility of the individual to protect their own freedom and secure their own happiness.”

“Freedom is not about doing what feels good; it’s about doing what’s right.”

“The government does not create wealth, it simply redistributes it.”

“America is not perfect, but it is the greatest nation in the history of the world.”

“Capitalism is not a system that guarantees equal outcomes, but it is a system that guarantees equal opportunity.”

“Conservatism is not about status quo; it’s about returning to the principles that have stood the test of time.”

“The government’s job is not to make us equal, but to give us all equal rights.”

“Education should focus on teaching students how to think, not what to think.”

“Liberals believe in the power of government, conservatives believe in the power of the individual.”

“The left loves diversity of thought as long as everyone agrees with them.”

“The greatest threat to freedom is the temptation to trade it for security.”

“The government should be limited, not the dreams and ambitions of its citizens.”

“Success is not about who you know, it’s about what you know and what you do with it.”

“Patriotism is not about blind loyalty, but about recognizing the greatness and potential of your country.”

“Liberty is not a gift from government, it is a right bestowed upon us by our Creator.”

“The culture war is not about right vs. left, it’s about right vs. wrong.”

“Freedom is not free; it must be fought for and defended.”

“Big government is not the solution; it’s the problem.”

“Self-reliance is the fuel of success; dependency is the road to mediocrity.”

“The American Dream is not a guarantee, it’s an opportunity.”

“We are not entitled to anything; we must earn what we want in life.”

“Conservatism is not about hating change; it’s about preserving what is good and proven.”

“The principles that made America great are timeless; they are not bound by time, culture, or political correctness.”

“Progressivism is not about progress; it’s about control.”

“Liberty is not just a word, it’s a way of life.”

“The pursuit of happiness is not about material possessions, but about finding meaning and purpose in life.”

“Capitalism is not perfect, but it is the best economic system ever created.”

“The left wants to create equality of outcome, while the right seeks to create equality of opportunity.”

“The greatness of our nation lies in the power and potential of its individuals.”




there aren't enough eye rolls. no one has suggested that everything out of the guy's mouth was questionable. And by the way, on this very thread, I challenged someone who talked about stoning gay people and cautioned the poster to stick to the actual quotes. Like these.

"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified." (January 2024)

"Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that's a fact." (May 2023)

To Taylor Swift, "Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (August 2025)


He has also claimed that young women who vote for Democrats "want careerism, consumerism, and loneliness" while "Trump voters, young men, they want family, children and legacy." (August 2025)

He has publicly stated that he believes "there is no separation of church and state." (July 2022)

the Civil Rights Act of 1965 was a "huge mistake," because it led to a "permanent DEI-type bureaucracy." (December 2023)

Right after a school shooting: "it's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights." (April 2023)
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